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2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

tri_colours

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Nope wrong as usual. for Australian media nrl got a reported $360mill ($1.8bill over 5 years ) and afl got $416mill ($2.5bill over 6 years), a $56mill gap which was bigger than the 2012/2013 deal ($49mill gap)!

expansion will help close the gap unless the afls CEOs claims of their two year deal are true in which case the gap is going to be much larger even with the extra money from fox, unless we land much more than the reported $600mill from fta, for a short time at least.

you have to question when SOO is worth $30mill and add in whatever international games are worth we still get so little for our domestic comp despite having higher audiences, especially for ptv.

According to Grant we got over $1.9b once all international rights came in. Which is part of our broadcast contract.

But you are right, Smiths stuff-up benefited the AFL greatly.
 
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Steel Saints

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Good result all things considered. Especially given the reduced media funding Vlandys agreed to. Expected reduced grass roots funding ($43.5mill reduction in ‘20 due to covid) and two origin series revenues would certainly have helped the bottom line.

Well there would be reduced grassroots funding because young players weren't allowed to play due to Covid restrictions.
 

Perth Red

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actually 40 million more pa

they are paying 20 million more per year til 2027 for the extra 12 exclusive games they will get & 100 million for the franchise set up
Link? every report I’ve seen has said either $75mill or $100mil over 5 years
 
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Perth Red

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hahahahaha

they could have posted a 100 million profit & you'd be a ney sayer
I won't be waiting for your analysis thanks , it'll be biased dribble as per usual.
No it’ll be based on facts, or whatever evidence is a available, not your nonsense methodology of make sht up only to be proved wrong time after time!
 
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Link? every report I’ve seen has said either $75mill or $100mil over 5 years
The Sydney Morning Herald revealed last week that Foxtel had agreed to hand over an additional $20 million annually over the next five years to the NRL, which will provide financial support for a 17th team based in Brisbane. That is over and above a five-year extension struck last year during the coronavirus pandemic.
In exchange for this additional payment, Foxtel will get more games involving the Broncos (which are majority owned by News Corp) exclusively for its set-top box and its streaming service, Kayo Sports.

so thats
20 million pa for the set up

& another 25 million for all 12 extra exclusive games going to foxtel

A report by the NRL from June said that based on the current broadcast deal and the value per viewer, adding a new team could increase broadcast market value to $362 million (up $13 million) if all 12 new matches ran on Foxtel and $374 million (up $25 million) if all 12 ran on both Foxtel and Nine.

thats 45 million extra per year

now
Ive seen your typical whining effort that theres been no confirmation of these figures as yet, but you seemingly aren't as on board with the questioning the absolute bull shit figures sprouted by the AFL.

so.. save yourself the trouble of being seen again as a biased clown & accept your figures were wrong... again!!
 

Perth Red

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The Sydney Morning Herald revealed last week that Foxtel had agreed to hand over an additional $20 million annually over the next five years to the NRL, which will provide financial support for a 17th team based in Brisbane. That is over and above a five-year extension struck last year during the coronavirus pandemic.
In exchange for this additional payment, Foxtel will get more games involving the Broncos (which are majority owned by News Corp) exclusively for its set-top box and its streaming service, Kayo Sports.

so thats
20 million pa for the set up

& another 25 million for all 12 extra exclusive games going to foxtel

A report by the NRL from June said that based on the current broadcast deal and the value per viewer, adding a new team could increase broadcast market value to $362 million (up $13 million) if all 12 new matches ran on Foxtel and $374 million (up $25 million) if all 12 ran on both Foxtel and Nine.

thats 45 million extra per year

now
Ive seen your typical whining effort that theres been no confirmation of these figures as yet, but you seemingly aren't as on board with the questioning the absolute bull shit figures sprouted by the AFL.

so.. save yourself the trouble of being seen again as a biased clown & accept your figures were wrong... again!!
haha now that's some reading between the lines! Fox are paying between $15-20mill a year for 5 years! Not that PLUS $25mill a year. If that was true that would be $45mill a year for just 12 extra games no extra time slot lol. Given in the last deal FOX paid $24.3mill for each time slot how likely do you think your fudging of the figures is??
Dreaming!

Where are you getting that the 12 extra matches will be exclusive to fox? Link?
 
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Perth Red

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it looks healthy due to good management ...
seems the only one less informed here is you hahaha
Maybe, or it maybe just that having the extra revenue from last years origin plus the reduce spending on development and community has created it. Time will tell. I'll wave the bunting when I see how its been achieved and not before.
 
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haha now that's some reading between the lines! Fox are paying between $15-20mill a year for 5 years! Not that PLUS $25mill a year. If that was true that would be $45mill a year for just 12 extra games no extra time slot lol. Given in the last deal FOX paid $24.3mill for each time slot how likely do you think your fudging of the figures is??
Dreaming!

Where are you getting that the 12 extra matches will be exclusive to fox? Link?
hahaha
reading between what lines you idiot

the words , financial support , over and above , additional . Its in addition to the media rights deal you moaning halfwit
possibly the payoff to ensure redcliffe got the license which was the least impacting on news ltd's team the broncos.

& what , you think 9 are getting the extra games paying exactly the same amount they did in the last deal .. 78 games n reps & now 90 games n reps ? hahahah
you're a clown.
foxtel are getting them & as the article says will be paying 25 million a year for them. .. 45 mill extra a year good work PVL... now we just need Brisb 3 & NZ 2 in the next 10 years 😎
 
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Maybe, or it maybe just that having the extra revenue from last years origin plus the reduce spending on development and community has created it. Time will tell. I'll wave the bunting when I see how its been achieved and not before.
it won't matter to a biased clown like you , you'll just find something else to whine about & get wrong
 
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$200m for 1 team - yeah right. It was only a few weeks ago your were claiming an extra team brought nothing
nope said it wasn’t worth as much as an extra gane, which has been proved correct. And it was between $75-100mill depending which media you believe, if either.
seems like you're the only whining dribbler on here not seeing its 200 million plus for one extra team despite the evidence

"
depending on which media you believe , if either "
hahahahaha

yet
when the AFL's dodgy figures are presented to you
its

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Perth Red

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hahaha
reading between what lines you idiot

the words , financial support , over and above , additional . Its in addition to the media rights deal you moaning halfwit
possibly the payoff to ensure redcliffe got the license which was the least impacting on news ltd's team the broncos.

& what , you think 9 are getting the extra games paying exactly the same amount they did in the last deal .. 78 games n reps & now 90 games n reps ? hahahah
you're a clown.
foxtel are getting them & as the article says will be paying 25 million a year for them. .. 45 mill extra a year good work PVL... now we just need Brisb 3 & NZ 2 in the next 10 years 😎
So once again you have zero evidence of fox exclusivity or that they are not paying the $15 or $20mill that everyone has quoted them as paying. you're dreaming if you think Fox is paying $45mill a year for 12 games lol Maybe you should stick to telling us how you can't build on sand :)
 

Colk

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hahaha
reading between what lines you idiot

the words , financial support , over and above , additional . Its in addition to the media rights deal you moaning halfwit
possibly the payoff to ensure redcliffe got the license which was the least impacting on news ltd's team the broncos.

& what , you think 9 are getting the extra games paying exactly the same amount they did in the last deal .. 78 games n reps & now 90 games n reps ? hahahah
you're a clown.
foxtel are getting them & as the article says will be paying 25 million a year for them. .. 45 mill extra a year good work PVL... now we just need Brisb 3 & NZ 2 in the next 10 years 😎

Why would you aim for an odd number of teams and why would the NRL put another side in Brisbane and NZ. I’m just curious
 
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So once again you have zero evidence of fox exclusivity or that they are not paying the $15 or $20mill that everyone has quoted them as paying. you're dreaming if you think Fox is paying $45mill a year for 12 games lol Maybe you should stick to telling us how you can't build on sand :)
they aren't paying 45 mill for the 12 games you peanut
they're paying 25 mill

the extra 100 mill was to bankroll expansion , cover the dolphins grant etc .. ya know
like the article says 10 times at least lol

no evidence eh
so the AFL says its increasing its deal by 55 million with..... NO .. evidence & indeed theres evidence to suggest its utter BS
but theres no
"if you believes" from you is there ?

& you wonder why people think you're a clown 😎
 
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Why would you aim for an odd number of teams and why would the NRL put another side in Brisbane and NZ. I’m just curious
no one aimed for it , it was required because we weren't ready for 2 teams at once.
We have taken care of a few things that the comp required tho , a 2nd team in brisbane & 12 extra games that will deliver 125 million extra $$ to the codes coffers

brisbane 3 is a no brainer as is NZ 2
more rivalries created
 

Perth Red

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they aren't paying 45 mill for the 12 games you peanut
they're paying 25 mill

the extra 100 mill was to bankroll expansion , cover the dolphins grant etc .. ya know
like the article says 10 times at least lol

no evidence eh
so the AFL says its increasing its deal by 55 million with..... NO .. evidence & indeed theres evidence to suggest its utter BS
but theres no
"if you believes" from you is there ?

& you wonder why people think you're a clown 😎
Generally if a CEO of a company comes out and makes an official statement in the media then yeh I'm going to take that as evidence until something else proves otherwise. Even if media quote figures then its something to go off until other evidence shows different, they don't always get it right but often no smoke without fire in the world of sport journalism.

There is NO EVIDENCE or even mention in the media that Fox is paying $15-20mill a year PLUS another $20mill a year for expansion. Only the $15-20mill depending on which report you read. You've still yet to give a link that states that they are also paying $100mill start up costs for the new club on top of that. WTF would they do that? Why would they pay start up costs for a new club they dont own? Makes no sense.

The fact we got $15 or $20mill a year for just twelve ganes with no new time slot is still impressive, though much of the value sadly doesnt seem to be in value of content rather a sweetener to get Broncos off FTA! Still if we can then sell the next expansion to 18 to FTA for the new time slot for $30million'ish thats a great result for the game that more than covers expansion.

Evidence:

RL is ready to accept the Redcliff Dolphins as the expansion team for Brisbane, the league has secured a deal with News Corp to provide $75 million into the sport over the next five years.

The expansion is being driven following a commitment by with News Corp to invest $75 million into the sport over the next five years

I would like to acknowledge our broadcast partner Fox Sports who have agreed to an enhanced broadcast agreement from 2023 to 2027.”

According to the News Corp report, the Foxtel deal, which is believed to be worth around $100 million over the next five years, will cover the costs of the expanded league.

So literally every report has Fox increasing the TV deal for 23-27 by either $75 or $100 mill. Not one mentions anything about $100mill start up costs lol!
 

Perth Red

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Why would you aim for an odd number of teams and why would the NRL put another side in Brisbane and NZ. I’m just curious
Because we are weak, lack strategy and make decisions on the whim of whichever chairman is in power. Plans for two new clubs should have begun in 2012 when the ARLC took over and been in place for selling of 2017 rights. We should now be talking about whose going to be 19 and 20 in 2028!
 
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