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The Game 2023 Crowd Watch

Brian potter

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Bulldogs, Wests Tigers & Macarthur Bulls all agreeing to play the majority of their games at one venue (you would want the Easter matches to remain at Homebush) would possibly be enough to justify a stadium, especially if it's more of a CBus Stadium than a CommBank Stadium or AAMI Park.

Having only a single tier significantly reduces costs for the build and you can fit roughly 25K in a build like that without compromising too much.
Having a simple design like that of the central coast stadium with maybe open terraces behind the sticks would easily give you a capacity of around 25k for much less building costs.
 

Brian potter

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It was $360 million for Parramatta. Another one of those at Liverpool would be fantastic.
I agree but will the taxpayers of Sydney pay for 2 new stadiums in Penrith and Liverpool?

bulldogs, tigers and MacArthur FC playing out of a new stadium in Liverpool would be amazing value for money imo.
 

Perth Red

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The return can only be a good as the investment.
How much is Suncorp worth to the city of Brisbane..
Suncorp is valuable as it’s the only rectangular stadium in Brisbane so gets a lot of use. Another stadium in Sydney is competing with three others for tenants and events.

Never mind stadiums get your potholes filled in, nearly lost a rim driving to Wollongong tonight!
 

docbrown

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I agree but will the taxpayers of Sydney pay for 2 new stadiums in Penrith and Liverpool?

bulldogs, tigers and MacArthur FC playing out of a new stadium in Liverpool would be amazing value for money imo.
Liverpool is the proposed 3rd CBD so it makes a lot of sense. The politics is another thing.
 

greenBV4

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Wollongong isn’t in Sydney bro
and NSW is more than just Sydney


Suncorp is valuable as it’s the only rectangular stadium in Brisbane so gets a lot of use. Another stadium in Sydney is competing with three others for tenants and events.

Never mind stadiums get your potholes filled in, nearly lost a rim driving to Wollongong tonight!
NSW - Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong. Leave those and the roads become more potholes than asphalt almost 😂
 

yakstorm

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As great Western Sydney Stadium is, $360m is not cheap and unless the conditions are right, it's hard to get that level of investment from the government.

That's why, IMO, simpler Stadium designs should be considered for any additional venues. @Brian potter's suggestion is a great one, Central Coast Stadium cost $30m to build in 1999, which with inflation would be $56m in current dollars... now I doubt you could rebuild it for that, but still you're looking at around 100m

CBus Stadium's design would be roughly $200m and there are plenty of other more 'boring' designs which would allow fans to enjoy action in a full seated, covered stadium, with modern amenities and can generate a good atmosphere.

Changing colours, award winning designs, steepest elevation for seating which required special certification, multi-tiers etc, are all nice but if they drastically increase the price of a development so it is no longer feasible, aren't necessary. I'm sure the likes of Cronulla, Manly, etc (and their fans), if they could pick up the likes of Central Coast Stadium, CBus or even some of the flat pack UK stadiums and put it where their current venues are, would happily take it.
 

Wb1234

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and NSW is more than just Sydney



NSW - Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong. Leave those and the roads become more potholes than asphalt almost 😂
What’s Wollongong council fixing a pothole got to do with the state govt building stadia in Sydney lol
 

greenBV4

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What’s Wollongong council fixing a pothole got to do with the state govt building stadia in Sydney lol
why should one LGA in Sydney get a stadium for 1 NRL team to use when there's 3 perfectly (ok, 2 and 1 somewhat) fine ones already in Sydney?

yes yes I know Sydney is planned poorly as f**k and you cant get around but try explain that to someone in country NSW, they wont give 2 flying f**ks and would much rather that spent elsewhere, same even applies for your average person in other Sydney LGAs, actually based on the election results the majority of people even in those LGAs don't care
 

Wb1234

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As great Western Sydney Stadium is, $360m is not cheap and unless the conditions are right, it's hard to get that level of investment from the government.

That's why, IMO, simpler Stadium designs should be considered for any additional venues. @Brian potter's suggestion is a great one, Central Coast Stadium cost $30m to build in 1999, which with inflation would be $56m in current dollars... now I doubt you could rebuild it for that, but still you're looking at around 100m

CBus Stadium's design would be roughly $200m and there are plenty of other more 'boring' designs which would allow fans to enjoy action in a full seated, covered stadium, with modern amenities and can generate a good atmosphere.

Changing colours, award winning designs, steepest elevation for seating which required special certification, multi-tiers etc, are all nice but if they drastically increase the price of a development so it is no longer feasible, aren't necessary. I'm sure the likes of Cronulla, Manly, etc (and their fans), if they could pick up the likes of Central Coast Stadium, CBus or even some of the flat pack UK stadiums and put it where their current venues are, would happily take it.
Nah for new builds like Penrith it needs to be done properly
why should one LGA in Sydney get a stadium for 1 NRL team to use when there's 3 perfectly (ok, 2 and 1 somewhat) fine ones already in Sydney?

yes yes I know Sydney is planned poorly as f**k and you cant get around but try explain that to someone in country NSW, they wont give 2 flying f**ks and would much rather that spent elsewhere, same even applies for your average person in other Sydney LGAs, actually based on the election results the majority of people even in those LGAs don't care
so nothing to do with potholes
 

Perth Red

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As great Western Sydney Stadium is, $360m is not cheap and unless the conditions are right, it's hard to get that level of investment from the government.

That's why, IMO, simpler Stadium designs should be considered for any additional venues. @Brian potter's suggestion is a great one, Central Coast Stadium cost $30m to build in 1999, which with inflation would be $56m in current dollars... now I doubt you could rebuild it for that, but still you're looking at around 100m

CBus Stadium's design would be roughly $200m and there are plenty of other more 'boring' designs which would allow fans to enjoy action in a full seated, covered stadium, with modern amenities and can generate a good atmosphere.

Changing colours, award winning designs, steepest elevation for seating which required special certification, multi-tiers etc, are all nice but if they drastically increase the price of a development so it is no longer feasible, aren't necessary. I'm sure the likes of Cronulla, Manly, etc (and their fans), if they could pick up the likes of Central Coast Stadium, CBus or even some of the flat pack UK stadiums and put it where their current venues are, would happily take it.
Building costs have gone through the roof since then (no pun intended). Hbf park upgrade a decade ago cost $90mill for one main stand and one end stand without a roof.
 

SLRBRONCOS

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Origin at Suncorp is special
There really isn’t a better experience in rugby league than an origin decider at Suncorp. The atmosphere can be absolutely mental - and caxton street is just so good if you get there early with your mates. Love it when the buses go down the street.

I’ve seen cops dancing on the roof of Gambaro Hotel after QLD victories. Fun.
 

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