2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

[Desert Qlder]

I don't really know how to make sense of the numbers but is that 54k on FTV in Brisbane for the Lions? I thought that team was doing well at the moment?

People in Brisbane are happy for them to do well, wish them all the best. But they don't, you know, watch the games.

 

[docbrown]

People in Brisbane are happy for them to do well, wish them all the best. But they don't, you know, watch the games.

Pretty sure I read that Queensland is a fumbleball state now. The Bargearsey line runs right through Caxton Street.

 

[Wb1234]

 

[The Penguin #6.]

That`s a tick over 400k per game for them and 670k + per game for us. Crazy differences.

 

[Pneuma]

Saw an article last year where the fumblers were looking to make the sport of fumbling a part of the primary school curriculum. If that’s the case then maybe compulsory adult viewing of one game per week might help them bridge the gap in tv ratings?. Not joking by the way. The school curriculum proposal was real. I wonder if teachers would be required to wear Klan costumes while delivering it?

 

[Billythekid]

That’s one area where the NRL has a clear advantage going forward. Historically one of the big advantages the AFL had was that their games were significantly longer. Problem is they already have so much overlap and that’s only going to increase when they attempt to add yet another game each week. Surely that has to impact how much value extra games will be worth.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Saw an article last year where the fumblers were looking to make the sport of fumbling a part of the primary school curriculum. If that’s the case then maybe compulsory adult viewing of one game per week might help them bridge the gap in tv ratings?. Not joking by the way. The school curriculum proposal was real. I wonder if teachers would be required to wear Klan costumes while delivering it?

Will The school curriculum also be governed by the “1 White Parent “rule.

 

[nko11]

That’s one area where the NRL has a clear advantage going forward. Historically one of the big advantages the AFL had was that their games were significantly longer. Problem is they already have so much overlap and that’s only going to increase when they attempt to add yet another game each week. Surely that has to impact how much value extra games will be worth.

Not sure if it's been discussed elsewhere, but what would be the best timeslot for 9th game when team 18 comes in? Would a Sunday 6:30 game both be great for TV and reasonable for people working the next day.

By extension if they go to 20 teams would it be feasible to have a Monday night game too. If one of the timeslots is on FTA we'd surely be looking at around 8 million per round. If not more the way ratings are growing this year.

 

[Wb1234]

That’s one area where the NRL has a clear advantage going forward. Historically one of the big advantages the AFL had was that their games were significantly longer. Problem is they already have so much overlap and that’s only going to increase when they attempt to add yet another game each week. Surely that has to impact how much value extra games will be worth.

Yeh never thought of that that’s a great point

if it’s overlapping existing games it won’t be worth much for tv or they will be forced into bad times for crowds

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Yeh never thought of that that’s a great point

if it’s overlapping existing games it won’t be worth much for tv or they will be forced into bad times for crowds

I think it was @docbrown who went into this in great detail a few weeks ago. From what I remember listing the advantages that the shorter game time and possible scheduling opportunities available to the NRL as our competition grows in number.
I remember thinking at the time, he`s onto something here. Would be good to read that summation again.

 

[Steel Saints]

Not sure if it's been discussed elsewhere, but what would be the best timeslot for 9th game when team 18 comes in? Would a Sunday 6:30 game both be great for TV and reasonable for people working the next day.

By extension if they go to 20 teams would it be feasible to have a Monday night game too. If one of the timeslots is on FTA we'd surely be looking at around 8 million per round. If not more the way ratings are growing this year.

It also depends on who gets the rights. If Ten acquire it, then the Sunday night game could kick off at 5:30pm. Ten have their news at 5pm. And all of the Sunday matches may begin an hour earlier as a result.

 

[Vibing]

That is an astounding gap between the 2 codes TV ratings for last weekend ,
ours is good for this year, without being gob smacking

Theirs is.. well.. appalling
you see fumblers moaning how low the skill level is in 2023 & this is having an effect, & its only a matter of time before attendances follow suit.

 

[Pneuma]

That is an astounding gap between the 2 codes TV ratings for last weekend ,
ours is good for this year, without being gob smacking

Theirs is.. well.. appalling
you see fumblers moaning how low the skill level is in 2023 & this is having an effect, & its only a matter of time before attendances follow suit.

The Klan will always attend their game. The casual viewers will drop off though

 

[Vibing]

The Klan will always attend their game. The casual viewers will drop off though

Well theres a bit of a casual element to their near record attendances atm & this will start to plateau once these more casual attendees see that the bumbling shit is even more of a bumbling mess then usual & not the spectacle they were promised by the zealots

 

[Vibing]

wanna come to the foody this weekend ?

yea
nah I'm good thanks .....

 

[docbrown]

I think it was @docbrown who went into this in great detail a few weeks ago. From what I remember listing the advantages that the shorter game time and possible scheduling opportunities available to the NRL as our competition grows in number.
I remember thinking at the time, he`s onto something here. Would be good to read that summation again.

Im not sure which post you’re referring to but there’s multiple things to increase the rights value.

*Having multiple bidders: just like any auction it drives up the price.

*Primetime slots. Bare minimum Thursday to Sunday: that’s when people watch television. Edit: we could have up to 8 if we wanted to.

*Subscription exclusive Monday night football: 5 out of 7 days saturation coverage in media.

*All games stand-alone slots: no clashes! A fan can watch every game if they have the money and time.

*A team in Perth: a 4th metro market and the 4th biggest media market. Live games in late east coast timeslots.

*A 9th game: more content.

*A 4th game on free-to-air: greater access to fans without subscription access.

*Two of the free-to-air games shown in a back to back double header on a Friday night, Saturday night or Sunday arvo/evening: each week you target at least 3 metros (Sydney team, QLD team and Storm/Perth etc) over 4+ hours. This most doable with Channel 10 who has flexible post 6pm scheduling.

*Full selling the rights to one media organisation for both FTA and subscription (9/Stan, 10/Paramount): you can switch game slots so that the highest ranking match ups are always broadcast to the biggest audience on FTA and subscription simulcast. Say if there‘s a potential 1 vs 2 game at 4pm on Saturday, five weeks earlier they either move the time slot to later so it’s covered in the FTA slot. Or if the 1 vs 2 pool match appeared unexpectedly, you make that afternoon game the FTA game and not the other night game. Or you sell the organisation the right to broadcast an additional batch of FTA games on top of their weekly 4 to be used at their own choosing. Basically - there’s no need to negotiate between 3 parties. Only the NRL and the one media org.

*Increase FTA game half times by five minutes: more ad revenue.

*Top 10 finals format: at least 2 extra finals games and fewer dead rubber club games in the weeks before the finals.

*Sunday night 730pm football on FTA: won’t happen unless the same broadcaster holds AFL too but it’d be the number one show on TV for half the year.

*Teams 19 and 20: more content. New media markets like Adelaide or New Zealand or increasing existing market share in Queensland or Melbourne.

*A second New Zealand side: a guaranteed Friday 8pm NZ slot for a NZ broadcaster (the early 6pm game) featuring Warriors or a NZ 2 club every week. Two games a week featuring New Zealand NRL clubs.

 

[Wb1234]

Im not sure which post you’re referring to but there’s multiple things to increase the rights value.

*Having multiple bidders: just like any auction it drives up the price.

*Primetime slots. Bare minimum Thursday to Sunday: that’s when people watch television.

*Subscription exclusive Monday night football: 5 out of 7 days saturation coverage in media.

*All games stand-alone slots: no clashes! A fan can watch every game if they have the money and time.

*A team in Perth: a 4th metro market and the 4th biggest media market. Live games in late east coast timeslots.

*A 9th game: more content.

*A 4th game on free-to-air: greater access to fans without subscription access.

*Two of the free-to-air games shown in a back to back double header on a Friday night, Saturday night or Sunday arvo/evening: each week you target at least 3 metros (Sydney team, QLD team and Storm/Perth etc) over 4+ hours. This most doable with Channel 10 who has flexible post 6pm scheduling.

*Full selling the rights to one media organisation for both FTA and subscription (9/Stan, 10/Paramount): you can switch game slots so that the highest ranking match ups are always broadcast to the biggest audience on FTA and subscription simulcast. Say if there‘s a potential 1 vs 2 game at 4pm on Saturday, five weeks earlier they either move the time slot to later so it’s covered in the FTA slot. Or if the 1 vs 2 pool match appeared unexpectedly, you make that afternoon game the FTA game and not the other night game. Or you sell the organisation the right to broadcast an additional batch of FTA games on top of their weekly 4 to be used at their own choosing. Basically - there’s no need to negotiate between 3 parties. Only the NRL and the one media org.

*Increase FTA game half times by five minutes: more ad revenue.

*Top 10 finals format: at least 2 extra finals games and fewer dead rubber club games in the weeks before the finals.

*Sunday night 730pm football on FTA: won’t happen unless the same broadcaster holds AFL too but it’d be the number one show on TV for half the year.

*Teams 19 and 20: more content. New media markets like Adelaide or New Zealand or increasing existing market share in Queensland or Melbourne.

*A second New Zealand side: a guaranteed Friday 8pm NZ slot for a NZ broadcaster (the early 6pm game) featuring Warriors or a NZ 2 club every week. Two games a week featuring New Zealand NRL clubs.

He was referring to a post you made where because afl games are three hours long they have few more time slots which don’t overlap with other games and the impact this will have on their tv rights

 

[Billythekid]

Glad to see someone bring up the finals going forward. As both teams move towards 20 teams if you stick with the same top 8 that's going to mean a lot more dead rubbers and a lot earlier in the season. Curious how both comps handle this and who moves first.

 

[docbrown]

He was referring to a post you made where because afl games are three hours long they have few more time slots which don’t overlap with other games and the impact this will have on their tv rights

Oh right. I mean, AFL can do the same thing. Go to five games Thursday to Monday all 7 or 7:30pm games. That’s when people watch TV. But then there’s five more games they have to deal with. So those either go in the twilight slots and clash with news (no good for most FTA), earlier afternoon slots or get scheduled to clash with prime time games. So either slots with fewer viewers or slots where they compete with their own viewers. Wookie also says they’re reluctant to do Sunday and Monday regularly but who knows.

What the NRL does is up to them. We do 5 to 6 prime time games now. But with 9 or 10 weekly games and depending on the rights holders, the NRL could have potentially 8 prime time games and still no clashes (Thursday night, Friday night doubleheader, Saturday night double header, Sunday night doubleheader, Monday night).

The other two games would be Saturday and Sunday afternoons. And not one game in the round would clash!

With games 11 and 12 you’re then just adding more afternoon games but still no clashes and those matches would likely start around 2pm at the earliest.

 

[Wb1234]

Glad to see someone bring up the finals going forward. As both teams move towards 20 teams if you stick with the same top 8 that's going to mean a lot more dead rubbers and a lot earlier in the season. Curious how both comps handle this and who moves first.

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