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2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

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Pneuma

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The NRL have never claimed that clubs losing players to Origin is intrinsically positive. They've just decided that the current arrangement brings more positives and fewer negatives than any alternative.

One option is to shut the comp down mid-season. Those on this forum who believe crowds and ratings take a hit during Origin might like to set out the benefits of reducing NRL crowds and ratings to zero for several weeks. I'm struggling to see how that would help maintain momentum for the year.

The other option is to play Origin post-season. In that scenario, we could kiss goodbye to international RL.

A wide disparity of game-time between the best and the rest is not practical. In such a physically demanding sport, the top players cannot be available and firing for Origin, internationals, finals, and every regular-season game. Something has to give.

I've heard teachers and coaches of school and junior club teams who've toured Oz in the past decade or so report that some of their opponents expressed surprise that English people play RL. Pundits talk of "developing" the game in NZ as though they think RL arrived there in 1995 with the Warriors. There seems to be a generation, maybe two, who have grown up assuming that RL is a uniquely Australian game in the same mould as Aussie Rules.

The resultant binary code-war mindset prompts insular fans to use Origin and internationals as a stick to wave at AFL when it suits but then be the first to bemoan the disruption to the NRL schedule caused by rep fixtures. Last year there were even complaints about a possible impact on the NRL pre-season from the RLWC.
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The Penguin #6.

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Look, it’s not perfect but it is travelling pretty well
Fumbleball is still getting way too many viewers in Brisbane, yet a pitiful amount in Sydney. There`s no time for complacency in Queensland, I think we`re paying now for not having had enough teams in Qld for the last 30 years. We have allowed for non-Broncos Brisbanite supporters to find an alternative code in that city to support.
 

Pneuma

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Fumbleball is still getting way too many viewers in Brisbane, yet a pitiful amount in Sydney. There`s no time for complacency in Queensland, I think we`re paying now for not having had enough teams in Qld for the last 30 years. We have allowed for non-Broncos Brisbanite supporters to find an alternative code in that city to support.
40000 on fta with the home team playing isn’t a lot though. They have their market but it’s tiny compared to the two nrl teams there.
 

Vibing

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40000 on fta with the home team playing isn’t a lot though. They have their market but it’s tiny compared to the two nrl teams there.
And its mainly ex pat sthners who moved there 40 years ago , or their offspring who follow the drops & oopsies
a spike in crowd & ratings when theres a vic team playing , a drop when theres not.
They were never league fans & never will be , not enough singlets or noodle arms for them in our game.
 

The Penguin #6.

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40000 on fta with the home team playing isn’t a lot though. They have their market but it’s tiny compared to the two nrl teams there.
I was reading an 2018 article by Roy Masters the other day and he said that the lions and the suns were the two lowest Tv rating teams in fumbleball. I certainly doubt that is the case with the former today.
The fact that have only been in existence for 30 years (?) and can draw 40k, yet League has been in existence in Qld for 100+ years and only draws 80k is concerning.
And its mainly ex pat sthners who moved there 40 years ago , or their offspring who follow the drops & oopsies
a spike in crowd & ratings when theres a vic team playing , a drop when theres not.
They were never league fans & never will be , not enough singlets or noodle arms for them in our game.
I don`t buy this ex-pat argument, I think it`s a cop-out and an excuse for putting your head in the sand and saying everything is alright. Fumbleball is making incremental gains in that state that we should be concerned about. Imagine how stoked we`d be if the Storm were pulling similar numbers.
 

Vibing

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I don`t buy this ex-pat argument, I think it`s a cop-out and an excuse for putting your head in the sand and saying everything is alright. Fumbleball is making incremental gains in that state that we should be concerned about. Imagine how stoked we`d be if the Storm were pulling similar numbers.
The Storm do attract similar numbers when STV is included in Melb..
the Lions are never on STV exclusively in QLD , & there was no mass migration to Vic by people from NSW & QLD to get the Storms following down there.

My point is completely valid.
most people who following that fumbling abortion in QLD can be profiled
 

The Penguin #6.

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The Storm do attract similar numbers when STV is included in Melb..
How can you possibly know that, that`s just speculating to suit your argument.
& there was no mass migration to Vic by people from NSW & QLD to get the Storms following down there.
The amount of people that follow any one particular sport in any state is only a fraction of the population. This would be the same of people who emigrate from Victoria to other parts of Oz. I don`t think it explains the lions tv viewing figures.
You argue that a lot of these people wouldn`t follow League anyway. I`d say that a lot of these are born and bred Brisbanites who have started to take a casual interest in fumbleball because we haven`t given them the opportunity to follow a club that is an alternative to the Broncos.
Posters on the English forum often say that League has no chance of penetrating cities like Manchester and in particular Liverpool because rival codes have no chance of breaking the strangle hold that soccer has on media coverage and consequently people`s attention in those cities. Thats how it should have been in Brisbane and I think probably how it is in Sydney.
 

Vibing

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How can you possibly know that, that`s just speculating to suit your argument.

The amount of people that follow any one particular sport in any state is only a fraction of the population. This would be the same of people who emigrate from Victoria to other parts of Oz. I don`t think it explains the lions tv viewing figures.
You argue that a lot of these people wouldn`t follow League anyway. I`d say that a lot of these are born and bred Brisbanites who have started to take a casual interest in fumbleball because we haven`t given them the opportunity to follow a club that is an alternative to the Broncos.
Posters on the English forum often say that League has no chance of penetrating cities like Manchester and in particular Liverpool because rival codes have no chance of breaking the strangle hold that soccer has on media coverage and consequently people`s attention in those cities. Thats how it should have been in Brisbane and I think probably how it is in Sydney.
Totally disagree
fumbletards are cultists , their offspring indoctrinated in the ... faith.... led to believe nothing else matters in life
they... infest.... their habitats & thats exactly what happened with QLD.
Thats why double the number of people watch the spills & giggles in Brisbane as do in Sydney a city double the size. Its no coincidence that when non Victorian sides play on TV , or against the Wions or Swines at the ground , the crowd & ratings drop !!

a strong pesticide would be the answer I think
 

Pneuma

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I can tell you first hand afl come into Brisbane schools, get the kids a ball, do a few coaching clinics and count the kids as participants. The next day at school, the afl ball is used as a steeden and the kids are playing touch/RL
That’s how they do it. Some years ago I was told exactly that by a former afl development officer from north Queensland. He was a former league player picked for his profile and paid by the afl to go to schools and run clinics. Handed out sherrins as told to and watched the kids run around the next day using those horrible red things to play league.
 

The Penguin #6.

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Totally disagree
fumbletards are cultists , their offspring indoctrinated in the ... faith.... led to believe nothing else matters in life
Maybe a little exaggerated, but yes, definitely an element of the messianic.
Thats why double the number of people watch the spills & giggles in Brisbane as do in Sydney a city double the size. Its no coincidence that when non Victorian sides play on TV , or against the Wions or Swines at the ground , the crowd & ratings drop !!
Interesting observation and one I intend to take more note of in future. It would certainly support your theory of a large number of ex-pats making up the viewing figures.
 
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