2024 Crowd Watch

[beave]

Sydney clubs can stick it up their arse. Stop blaming North Queensland for your shit crowds. Plenty of Cowboys jerseys there today.

Own your pissweakness.

This.

 

[jim_57]

When do us NQers get to use this excuse when Sydney clubs come to town?

I’d rather we just not get shit crowds and not need an excuse.

Sub 10k crowd for first Sydney game of the year is poor no matter what the excuse. Weather looked fine, Saturday 5:30, night time but not too late for kids, 1-1 start to the season, new premiership winning coach in charge.

 

[Brutus]

I thought the Dragons were a big famous Sydney club?

Time to ditch Kogarah. It's been an underperformer for a while now.

Better off at Hurstville Oval.

 

[This Year?]

Really disappointing Kogarah crowd. Reflection of how the club is run sadly.

 

[yakstorm]

112,211 after 6 games (18,701 avg)

Need 47,789 to get to a 20K average for the round. Need 39,789 to get to a 19K average.

With pre-sales reasonable for both Parramatta & Newcastle, we should surpass the requirement to get to 19K.

 

[Canard]

Average of 12,300 over the 3 games in Sydney this arvo. Not that far off the benchmark I set but with three repeated under performers.
Not great I know, but seriously 5 years ago we’d be calling it a massive win.
It’s all about the trend my friends.

At no time in the last 30 years, would anyone call 12,300 a "massive win"

Take your hand off V'landys dick.

 

[Iamback]

At no time in the last 30 years, would anyone call 12,300 a "massive win"

Take your hand off V'landys dick.

While not great. Look at opposition,

I doubt Dogs v Titans are getting much more if played at Accor.

So too Dragons v Cows

For Comparison

Dragons v Cows at the same venue in 2022 9517.

Broncos the next home game 8,500

 

[Vlad59]

While not great. Look at opposition,

I doubt Dogs v Titans are getting much more if played at Accor.

So too Dragons v Cows

For Comparison

Dragons v Cows at the same venue in 2022 9517.

Broncos the next home game 8,500

This is more about the Dragons and their current woes than anything. A club with a heritage like theirs should be booming right now. Their administrators have failed dismally.

 

[docbrown]

Dragons should play 8 home games at Wollongong, 4 home games at the SFS against the Roosters, Rabbitohs, Tigers and another Sydney team. Then play at least 2 away games at the SFS against the Roosters and Rabbitohs. Work with those other SFS based teams (which hopefully Rabbitohs will become) for a 6 game package membership deal. And ditch Kogarah altogether.

 

[Iamback]

This is more about the Dragons and their current woes than anything. A club with a heritage like theirs should be booming right now. Their administrators have failed dismally.

Correct, Kogarah's demographics have changed too but they are on the nose at Wollongong too, so can't even give that a pass

 

[Chins get the wins]

So everyone agrees St Megre to Perth is the move yeah?

 

[jim_57]

Correct, Kogarah's demographics have changed too but they are on the nose at Wollongong too, so can't even give that a pass

Despite pulling the occasional good crowd to make the average look better, like 18k against Souths last year, Kogarah has been getting shit crowds for years. Wollongong ain’t much better but I’m guessing they don’t get as many away fans as when 2 Sydney clubs play at Kogarah.

Wollongong being regional would be more chance of getting a decent upgrade one day though you’d think. Kogarah as a ground in Sydney with half a tenant will be pushing shit up hill to even get touch ups, plus it’s an Oval.

 

[Canard]

While not great. Look at opposition,

I doubt Dogs v Titans are getting much more if played at Accor.

So too Dragons v Cows

For Comparison

Dragons v Cows at the same venue in 2022 9517.

Broncos the next home game 8,500

None of that makes it acceptable or a massive win.

Crowds have been great so far

Let's be honest yesterday was terrible.

 

[Iamback]

Despite pulling the occasional good crowd to make the average look better, like 18k against Souths last year, Kogarah has been getting shit crowds for years. Wollongong ain’t much better but I’m guessing they don’t get as many away fans as when 2 Sydney clubs play at Kogarah.

Wollongong being regional would be more chance of getting a decent upgrade one day though you’d think. Kogarah as a ground in Sydney with half a tenant will be pushing shit up hill to even get touch ups, plus it’s an Oval.

Even if Allianz was put in Kogarah, You have still now got a majority population being Chinese and other nationalities that don't follow RL.

 

[Iamback]

None of that makes it acceptable or a massive win.

Crowds have been great so far

Let's be honest yesterday was terrible.

Not saying it was but just some context.

Most of looked at the Super Saturday lineup and saw it as a dud, crowds backed that up but it is on par with corresponding games of previous years.

So while they were shit it is no worse than previous years, which is good thing for improving the overall crowds

 

[nko11]

Not saying it was but just some context.

Most of looked at the Super Saturday lineup and saw it as a dud, crowds backed that up but it is on par with corresponding games of previous years.

So while they were shit it is no worse than previous years, which is good thing for improving the overall crowds

For context last year the same/similar fixtures got:

This Year: 12,037 - +1,222

(Not the exact same game - but similar away support)
This Year: 9,252 - +714

(On a Thursday at WSS though)
This Year: 15,990 - +6,775

At worst the same as last years, if not a small improvment. It's about improvements year on year. This doesn't mean we can't question how we can improve on this and question ground usage, etc.

I don't mind the suburban grounds, but if they're going to do it, they have to have some marketing around it to make them into events. Look to Beer, Footy and Food Festival as an idea and copy/expand on it. It might sound stupid but hire out a brass band and have them play during the game/day. Let the fans on the field after the game, organise for NSW Cup or any level of grade to play beforehand.

We have a NSW cup team that has shown the way to promote Suburban football.

 

[beave]

None of that makes it acceptable or a massive win.

Crowds have been great so far

Let's be honest yesterday was terrible.

but but suburban grounds!!!!

 

[Steel Saints]

Correct, Kogarah's demographics have changed too but they are on the nose at Wollongong too, so can't even give that a pass

I don't think the Dragons are on the nose in Wollongong, but more of a case that they don't play regular home games at Win stadium every fortnight, like the Steelers used to do.

And of course since 2010, the club has been run horrendously.

But just like every fan base, they want to see a team that is competitive.

 

[Iamback]

For context last year the same/similar fixtures got:
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This Year: 12,037 - +1,222
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(Not the exact same game - but similar away support)
This Year: 9,252 - +714
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(On a Thursday at WSW though)
This Year: 15,990 - +6,775

At worst the same as last years, if not a small improvment. It's about improvements year on year. This doesn't mean we can't question how we can improve on this and question ground usage, etc.

I don't mind the suburban grounds, but if they're going to do it, they to have some marketing around it to make them into events. Look to Beer, Footy and Food Festival as an idea and copy/expand on it. It might sound stupid but hire out a brass band and have them play during the game/day. Let the fans on the field after the game, organise for NSW Cup or any level of grade to play beforehand.

We have a NSW cup team that has shown the way to promote Suburban football.

Of course always should look to do better but there will always be dud games, I'd prefer dud games at the bush or suburban grounds > large ones.

If Dogs play GC at Accor, The crowd number would be the same but would look horrible.

Next week is perfect example. There is no need to play a game on Thursday night.

The idiots don't have a 6pm Friday game on the one time it might actually pull a decent crowd

 

[Iamback]

but but suburban grounds!!!!

Do you think any of those games pull higher at 'normal' grounds?