2024 NRL GRAND FINAL: Penrith v Melbourne Oct 6th

[Avenger]

You don’t see the problem with paying Nathan’s dad a huge amount of money outside the salary cap?

Again, you're not really contributing anything of substance, just throwing out random points to argue for the sake of it. It's pretty clear you don't actually believe what you're saying—you're just here to troll and stir things up without offering a real opinion.

Why do you feel the need to troll? It seems like you’re more focused on getting a reaction than actually engaging in meaningful conversation. Is it because you're seeking attention or trying to feel in control? I think it is a bit of both. The fact that you were doing it on a forum whilst the grand final was actually being played makes your situation even sadder. No matter what the topic you were there with the opposite view. f**k it's boring.

You are one sick, twisted mother f**ker. You really are mate, I have studied you for many years now. I have tried to be nice or nasty but it doesn't matter with you. You keep doing it, because you are simply f**ked in the head.

You should consider taking a break from the forum and using the off-season to reflect. Stepping back for a while can give you a chance to gain some perspective and maybe come back with a more meaningful approach. Sometimes a pause is exactly what’s needed to clear things up and return with a fresh mindset.

 

[the phantom menace]

Why do you feel the need to troll? It seems like you’re more focused on getting a reaction than actually engaging in meaningful conversation. Is it because you're seeking attention or trying to feel in control? I think it is a bit of both.

I suspect the behaviour may be a bizarre search for connection and/or relevance, which for whatever reasons might have become hard to come by in life outside of online forum/s? Assuming there's a possibility that Pou's behaviour is not fully a "choice", in a human sense it just strikes me as sad.

You should consider taking a break from the forum and using the off-season to reflect. Stepping back for a while can give you a chance to gain some perspective and maybe come back with a more meaningful approach. Sometimes a pause is exactly what’s needed to clear things up and return with a fresh mindset.

Whatever the back story behind the behaviour, agree with this advice to Pou .

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh dear... attempted #trolling again.

All: Just watched a grand final, discussing season and final game
Pou: Blah blah blah 2020, to try and "win" some obscure, irrelevant and self-defined obscure point on the interwebs.

I’m trying to find out if your causal link between the result of one game and the two coaches can be applied to other games at other times.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Again, you're not really contributing anything of substance, just throwing out random points to argue for the sake of it. It's pretty clear you don't actually believe what you're saying—you're just here to troll and stir things up without offering a real opinion.

I'm helping you open your mind. We are all here for rugby league discussion. Let's keep it on topic and not play amateur psychologist.

Why do you feel the need to troll? It seems like you’re more focused on getting a reaction than actually engaging in meaningful conversation.

If people feel encouraged to engage in debate then the conversation is meaningful.

Is it because you're seeking attention or trying to feel in control? I think it is a bit of both. The fact that you were doing it on a forum whilst the grand final was actually being played makes your situation even sadder. No matter what the topic you were there with the opposite view. f**k it's boring.

Or is it more boring when we all go "Aww yeah mate I agree!" The emojis are for when we agree. When we disagree we need to explain why. That's not a bad thing. Disagreement isn't criticism. If you feel that way maybe you should take a break?

You are one sick, twisted mother f**ker. You really are mate, I have studied you for many years now. I have tried to be nice or nasty but it doesn't matter with you. You keep doing it, because you are simply f**ked in the head.

You've "tried to be nice or nasty" but I'm the twisted one?

You should consider taking a break from the forum and using the off-season to reflect. Stepping back for a while can give you a chance to gain some perspective and maybe come back with a more meaningful approach. Sometimes a pause is exactly what’s needed to clear things up and return with a fresh mindset.

I won't say I don't care, because I obviously do. But I'm not here to make people like me, I'm here to help raise the tone of rugby league discussion in the place. There's a handful of quality thinkers here but they are discouraged by all the angry whingers. So I am trying to encourage them. If I gave up I would feel like I'd failed them. You know what I'm talking about.

 

[Gronk]

Oh dear.

 

[JokerEel]

Oh dear.

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Ray Price Mr Rent a Quote

 

[hineyrulz]

The 24 panthers side is nowhere near as good as the 22 Panthers, Pricey is correct.

It was the worst finals series in living memory, besides the two Grand finalists and the Brave Roosters the rest of the top 8 was shite. And they want to bring in more teams lol.

 

[Gronk]

I didn't open the thread, but the title is worthy of an award nonetheless.

 

[King-Gutho94]

The 24 panthers side is nowhere near as good as the 22 Panthers, Pricey is correct.

It was the worst finals series in living memory, besides the two Grand finalists and the Brave Roosters the rest of the top 8 was shite. And they want to bring in more teams lol.

Can't help good luck.

I cant comment on the 1980s but i have no doubt the competition we faced was probably harder & tougher. I think Manly & Canterbury were tougher sides back then what Penrith have faced.

And every try scored back then in a GF may as well been worth 10 points today they were scored at a premium.

But its hard to compare era's it was a different game back then.

Penrith have done it 4 x times in a row so history will always be kinder to them i suspect.

I guess we were an goal kick away from winning 4 in a row.

Bloody Cronin

 

[TheParraboy]

That is probably a joke

Goes something like this

They asked Ray Price if The Eels side of 83 would beat the current day Panthers

Ray Price says : We would but it would be a very close game

Journo: why a close game?

Price: Well, we are all in our 60s now

 

[Legal Eel]

He was before his voice broke.

brilliant post.

What year was that though?

 

[Legal Eel]

He doesn't make enough metres. Lucky he plays in a great team. His fullback and wingers carry him.

I thought Martin was good - but my Clive Churchill Medal would have gone to Yeo - he is the engine of that pack.

 

[Legal Eel]

He has proved exactly what I claimed. Don't write a bloke off just because he hasn't won anything in 15 years.

depends on the coach I suppose - no two are equal.

 

[Legal Eel]

I'm helping you open your mind. We are all here for rugby league discussion. Let's keep it on topic and not play amateur psychologist.

If people feel encouraged to engage in debate then the conversation is meaningful.

Or is it more boring when we all go "Aww yeah mate I agree!" The emojis are for when we agree. When we disagree we need to explain why. That's not a bad thing. Disagreement isn't criticism. If you feel that way maybe you should take a break?

You've "tried to be nice or nasty" but I'm the twisted one?

I won't say I don't care, because I obviously do. But I'm not here to make people like me, I'm here to help raise the tone of rugby league discussion in the place. There's a handful of quality thinkers here but they are discouraged by all the angry whingers. So I am trying to encourage them. If I gave up I would feel like I'd failed them. You know what I'm talking about.

Is this a self-appointed position? Or has some authority figure bestowed this job upon you because you are so clearly superior to everyone else?

Either way, I hope it gives your life some purpose and meaning.

 

[King-Gutho94]

depends on the coach I suppose - no two are equal.

Exactly comparing Cleary & BA is a waste of time.

Both have had different cycles when it comes to premiership windows and squads at different stages at there disposal.

Cleary has had 4 different appointments during his tenure.

Including 2 of them at the time were down the bottom needing massive rebuilds which no doubt affected his win% which Pou likes to call out as average across his first 13 years to win an argument.

But he was only sacked once for looking tired which in hindsight was a dumb move by Gould to flex his ego and probably a control thing.

He has left 2 of his other jobs after being poached by Penrith on both occasions.

BA had 1 appointment for 11 consecutive years at one job.

Cleary was poached by Gould in 2011 to embark on a massive rebuild at Penrith.

I reckon if Ivan stayed at the Warriors after 2011 they win a premiership he had them around the mark as constant finalists between 2007-2011.

Instead he took a selfless option and left a team contending to return to Sydney to a team that had to be rebuilt from the ground up after doing all the hardwork in NZ.

By year 3 he had Penrith in the Top 4 and beating Minor Premiers Roosters to make a prelim.

2015 at Penrith was probably our version of 2018.

BA won lotto got lucky and survived a wooden spoon.

Ivan was told to pack his bags he looked tired.

He only had 18 months at the tigers but he is the only coach they have had since 2011 to have won 50% of games in one season with 12 in 2018 where the missed they came 9th.

The more i think about it after Sunday night he is probably the 2nd greatest coach of the modern era after Bennett.

 

[hindy111]

The 24 panthers side is nowhere near as good as the 22 Panthers, Pricey is correct.

It was the worst finals series in living memory, besides the two Grand finalists and the Brave Roosters the rest of the top 8 was shite. And they want to bring in more teams lol.

I reckon the 24 sides defense was better but attack nothing close.
They barely leaked a point in the final series. Storm got one try off the back of a bad penalty call.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

brilliant post.

What year was that though?

1987 apparently. Technically it was Noah Taylor's voice that broke, but anyway.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh dear.

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If we want some data for comparison:

Merkins	Points differential
'83 Eels	+346
'24 Panthers	+186

The Panthers are in decline and it was an amazing effort to win this one. Unlike previous years they weren't dominant:

Merkins	Points differential
'23 Panthers	+333
'22 Panthers	+306
'21 Panthers	+390

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The 24 panthers side is nowhere near as good as the 22 Panthers, Pricey is correct.

ffs

 

[hineyrulz]

ffs

I did it and I didn’t need graphs merkin ffs!!