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2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

Perth Red

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Way to ignore the war. It cannot be overstated the damage it did to the game. That it survived is testament to the quality of it. We are only just getting back to where we were in 95
Im not ignoring anything, there are reasons for what we face but that doesn't negate the fact that to say AFL expansion and NRl expansion are akin, or even close buy the time we get to 20 clubs, is laughable on just about every metric.
 

Perth Red

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You are obviously talking about the Storm, and then the WA team as "expansion clubs"
You've conveniently left out the Warriors, a team from another country who have set up where another sport is as just as much a religion as the Vico game is in Vic, SA and WA.
NZ have produced a shit load of juniors across the whole NRL since the Warriors came into the competition.
And please don't say that rugby league has been played there since conception, Aussie rules has been played in both NSW and Qld since forever as well.

If you are going to cherry pick a debate expect to be cherry picked back.
Auckland is and has always been a RL hotbed. Its not an 'expansion' city. Christchurch would be.
 
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Auckland is and has always been a RL hotbed. Its not an 'expansion' city. Christchurch would be.
That’s your definition of expansion, not everyone’s.
The amount of players coming from NZ into the NRL has risen substantially since the Warriors have come into the competition. In other words, their presence has expanded the popularity of the NRL in both first class players being sought after, and produced, and viewing numbers.
 
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Billythekid

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I see this has devolved back into AFL vs NRL buffoonery. For the record I think the 2 codes are incredibly close in popularity and I think that’s unlikely to change in our life times so these arguments are never going to end. I just hope the crowds and TV ratings keep going up and expansion goes ahead as it seems poised to do. I don’t really care what the AFL is doing because I don’t follow the sport.
 

The_Wookie

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DateChannelPrimary DescriptionBVOD AudienceBVOD Reach
21/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: PF GEELONG V BRISBANE506,000914,000
13/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: SF PORT ADELAIDE V HAWTHORN440,000780,000
20/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: PF SYDNEY V PORT ADELAIDE432,000802,000
6/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: EF WB V HAWTHORN413,000710,000
14/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: SEMI FINAL GWS V BRISBANE388,000788,000
7/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: EF BRISBANE V CARLTON374,000706,000
7/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: QUALIFYING FINAL SYDNEY V GWS369,000750,000
5/09/2024FOX FOOTYLIVE: AFL: QF PORT ADELAIDE V GEELONG356,000642,000
15/09/2024Fox LeagueLIVE: NRL: EF BULLDOGS V SEA EAGLES353,000554,000
14/09/2024Fox LeagueLIVE: NRL: QF STORM V SHARKS315,000535,000
21/09/2024Fox LeagueLIVE: NRL: SF ROOSTERS V SEA EAGLES285,000510,000
14/09/2024Fox LeagueLIVE: NRL: EF COWBOYS V KNIGHTS282,000498,000
20/09/2024Fox LeagueLIVE: NRL: SF SHARKS V COWBOYS281,000512,000
13/09/2024Fox LeagueLIVE: NRL: QF PANTHERS V ROOSTERS274,000485,000
 

Chief_Chujo

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Im not ignoring anything, there are reasons for what we face but that doesn't negate the fact that to say AFL expansion and NRl expansion are akin, or even close buy the time we get to 20 clubs, is laughable on just about every metric.
I'd argue our expansion to NZ is far more successful then their efforts in NSW/QLD. Compare the amount of New Zealanders playing first grade to the Swans and Lions squads. They have about 10 players each from their home state out of a 45 man squad, many of them being children of expat Victorians and former players. Imagine if the Reds and Crushers had 30yrs behind them like the Warriors and Cowboys do.

So yea you can't shit on League on the expansion front when we already had a vast footprint that got taken from us by News. Thank god we didn't lose the Warriors.
 

The_Wookie

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Bit weird. Most games were getting better ratings on fox/kayo this season. Maybe a lot of cancellations once we hit finals.

Average NRL streaming rating during the H&A season - 271,000
Average NRL streaming ratiung during the Finals - 298,000
Average NRL streaming rating in 2024 - 272,000

Average AFL streaming rating during the H&A season - 239,000
Average AFL streaming rating during the Finals - 410,000
Average AFL streaming rating in 2024 - 247,000
*Average season and H&A ratings are likely lower due to 37 matches not being reported in the top 30 over the season
 

The_Wookie

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NRL Finals
HomeAwayTotal TVTV ReachBVODBVOD ReachAgg Ave
PenrithSydney776,0001,641,0002740004850001,050,000
MelbourneCronulla572,0001,380,000315000535000887,000
North QueenslandNewcastle723,0001,524,0002820004980001,005,000
CanterburyManly828,0001,788,0003530005540001,181,000
CronullaNorth Queensland845,0001,811,0002810005120001,126,000
SydneyManly821,0001,757,0002850005100001,106,000


AFL Finals
HomeAwayVOZ TotalVOZ ReachBVOD AveBVOD ReachAgg Ave
Port AdelaideGeelong832,0002,493,000356,000642,000
1,188,000​
Western BulldogsHawthorn972,0002,426,000413,000710,000
1,385,000​
SydneyGWS718,0002,092,000369,000750,000
1,087,000​
BrisbaneCarlton887,0002,342,000374,000706,000
1,261,000​
Port AdelaideHawthorn1,082,0002,623,000440,000780,000
1,522,000​
GWSBrisbane922,0002,645,000388,000788,000
1,310,000​
SydneyPort Adelaide1,183,0003,017,000432,000802,000
1,615,000​
GeelongBrisbane1,322,0003,217,000506,000914,000
1,828,000​


 

Chief_Chujo

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I havent.

Ahh yea I misread and didn't see 'aggregated '

Average NRL streaming rating during the H&A season - 271,000
Average NRL streaming ratiung during the Finals - 298,000
Average NRL streaming rating in 2024 - 272,000

Average AFL streaming rating during the H&A season - 239,000
Average AFL streaming rating during the Finals - 410,000
Average AFL streaming rating in 2024 - 247,000
*Average season and H&A ratings are likely lower due to 37 matches not being reported in the top 30 over the season

Hmm any idea why the gap exists? Seems strange we avg better during H&A then don't see a similar boost when we get to finals.
 

The_Wookie

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Ahh yea I misread and didn't see 'aggregated '



Hmm any idea why the gap exists? Seems strange we avg better during H&A then don't see a similar boost when we get to finals.

The AFL always smashes ratings in finals. I dont know why it would be any different - they are up for the NRL too but nowhere near the AFLs - although youve got prelims to come.
 
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Ahh yea I misread and didn't see 'aggregated '



Hmm any idea why the gap exists? Seems strange we avg better during H&A then don't see a similar boost when we get to finals.
I`ll tell you exactly why, it`s obvious a lot of fumbleball fans are bored shitless with the regular season and only tune in for the end of the season matches that actually have a bit of meaning.
 

Chief_Chujo

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I`ll tell you exactly why, it`s obvious a lot of fumbleball fans are bored shitless with the regular season and only tune in for the end of the season matches that actually have a bit of meaning.
Don't think it's that easy. NRL need to figure out why our viewership doesn't carry into the finals.
 

aussie_q_factor

Juniors
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Don't think it's that easy. NRL need to figure out why our viewership doesn't carry into the finals.
The continued dominance of the big 3 (Panthers, Roosters and Storm) are impacting the NRL. My mates and I are all Rugby League tragic but there just seems to be no where near the interest in the finals as one would expect. Just seem to be going through the motions…..
 

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