2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

[Billythekid]

More than double the super league grand final (on pay only)

Does the cup final get those numbers ?

Interesting how England has a lot more interest in the international game like that. Next years games against Australia should do really well. If they’re actually competitive (or do I even dream of them winning) it could rate really f**king well. Hope this encourages more teams travelling to England.

 

[Wb1234]

Interesting how England has a lot more interest in the international game like that. Next years games against Australia should do really well. If they’re actually competitive (or do I even dream of them winning) it could rate really f**king well. Hope this encourages more teams travelling to England.

Internationals are on the bbc so get a big potential audience

 

[Billythekid]

Internationals are on the bbc so get a big potential audience

That makes sense.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

CC cup final is up around 1mill I think? Thats still great numbers for an England game though.

Yeah they are great numbers, especially given the awful crowd numbers and seemingly lack of atmosphere around the Tongan and Samoan tours.
With Oz touring next year and Kiwis` in 2028 should see even better numbers and hopefully lay the platform for more interest when the second tier teams tour again in 2029.
Good news for the Poms all round in hopefully revitalising interest in northern hemisphere Rugby League.

 

[i0Nic]

Just need some other Northern Hemisphere countries to become competitive like France.

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah they are great numbers, especially given the awful crowd numbers and seemingly lack of atmosphere around the Tongan and Samoan tours.
With Oz touring next year and Kiwis` in 2028 should see even better numbers and hopefully lay the platform for more interest when the second tier teams tour again in 2029.
Good news for the Poms all round in hopefully revitalising interest in northern hemisphere Rugby League.

I wouldnt say awful crowd numbers, relatively speaking. they were around double the avg SL crowd number.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

I wouldnt say awful crowd numbers, relatively speaking. they were around double the avg SL crowd number.

Yes it appears we are in a rebuilding phase of international Rugby League and certainly looking at it from the point of view that it was double the SL average is a positive and interesting take.
My main concern was whether the Island nations, given the lack of buzz, will want to keep going up there because England can`t rely on Oz and NZ for their only incoming opponents.
That`s why I was so pleased with the ratings it got, it does suggest a fair bit of casual interest that may be converted to match day fans for future tours.

 

[Perth Red]

Yes it appears we are in a rebuilding phase of international Rugby League and certainly looking at it from the point of view that it was double the SL average is a positive and interesting take.
My main concern was whether the Island nations, given the lack of buzz, will want to keep going up there because England can`t rely on Oz and NZ for their only incoming opponents.
That`s why I was so pleased with the ratings it got, it does suggest a fair bit of casual interest that may be converted to match day fans for future tours.

Well they wont have to decide for a few years.
25 is Aus touring, 26 RLWC, 27 NZ touring.
It'll be 2028 before they get chance again at the earliest.

Reality is its only going to be a RLWC or a test series v Aus that gets the really big crowds in UK.
Crowds around the 18-20k mark should be the target for NZ, and the other 2 nations imo.

 

[Wb1234]

Well they wont have to decide for a few years.
25 is Aus touring, 26 RLWC, 27 NZ touring.
It'll be 2028 before they get chance again at the earliest.

Reality is its only going to be a RLWC or a test series v Aus that gets the really big crowds in UK.
Crowds around the 18-20k mark should be the target for NZ, and the other 2 nations imo.

Nah after the ashes tour the poms have to grow a set and start holding at least the nz games in big stadiums 40 to 70k and stop holding them at club grounds

Its such a budget look for the game

 

[Perth Red]

Nah after the ashes tour the poms have to grow a set and start holding at least the nz games in big stadiums 40 to 70k and stop holding them at club grounds

Its such a budget look for the game

not as bad a look as 18k in a 40-70k stadium gives the game

 

[Wb1234]

not as bad a look as 18k in a 40-70k stadium gives the game

It won’t be 18k in a bigger stadium

They’ve gotten crowds of up to 70k for big tests or wc games

If nz can’t get 30 to 40k then they shouldn’t bother going

 

[Billythekid]

Just need some other Northern Hemisphere countries to become competitive like France.

Really just France. England really need a competitive team in the NH hemisphere to make them less reliant on teams travelling from the SH. Would allow them to have much more frequent international competition.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Really just France. England really need a competitive team in the NH hemisphere to make them less reliant on teams travelling from the SH. Would allow them to have much more frequent international competition.

Wales should also be low hanging fruit

 

[The_Wookie]

Streaming 26/10-2/11

Date	Channel	Primary Description	BVOD Audience	BVOD Reach
28/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: MEXICO RACE	220,000	326,000
27/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: NZL V AUS	195,000	333,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 505	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: MEXICO QUALIFYING	150,000	238,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS LIVE: GOLD COAST SUNDAY	142,000	131,000
2/11/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: NZL V TON	126,000	231,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS GOLD COAST 500: RACE 22	123,000	225,000
2/11/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: BRAZIL SPRINT QUALIFYING	104,000	166,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS THE GRID: GOLD COAST R22	94,000	167,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS GOLD COAST 500: SHOOTOUT	88,000	139,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS GOLD COAST 500: QUAL.	82,000	91,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 505	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: MEXICO PIT LANE QUALIFYING	78,000	231,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports More	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: MOTOGP: THAILAND RACE	72,000	87,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS GOLD COAST SUPPORTS	72,000	87,000
27/10/2024	Fox Sports 506	LIVE: MOTORSPORT: SUPERCARS GOLD COAST SUPPORTS	67,000	121,000

 

[The_Wookie]

Internationals Streams to date

Date	Channel	Primary Description	BVOD Audience	BVOD Reach
13/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PM'S XIII: PNG VS PM XIII	54,000	132,000
18/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS WOMEN: AUS V PNG	44,000	129,000
18/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: AUS V TON	189,000	315,000
19/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: FIJI V PNG	81,000	172,000
26/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: FIJ V CI	58,000	140,000
27/10/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: NZL V AUS	195,000	333,000
2/11/2024	Fox League	LIVE: PACIFIC C'SHIPS: NZL V TON	126,000	231,000

 

[The_Wookie]

Pacific Championship/Bowl Ratings - Total and Stream

Home	Away	Total TV	TV Reach	FoxBVOD	Fox BVOD Reach	Agg Ave
PNG	PM XIII	191,000	613,000	54,000	132,000	245,000
Kangaroos	Tonga	705,000	1,452,000	189,000	315,000	894,000
Jillaroos	PNG Orchids			44,000	129,000	44,000
Fiji Bati	PNG	260,000	872,000	81,000	172,000	341,000
Tonga	Fetu Samoa
Fiji Bati	Cook Islands Aitu	183,000	668,000	58,000	140,000	241,000
Fiji Bulikula	Cook Islands Moana
Kiwis	Kangaroos	558,000	1,348,000	195000	333000	753,000
Kiwi Ferns	Jillaroos	191,000	480,000
Kiwis	Tonga	210,000	424,000	126000	231000	336,000
Fetu Samoa	Fiji Bulikula
PNG	Cook Islands Aitu	188,000	589,000
PNG Orchids	Kiwi Ferns

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Really just France. England really need a competitive team in the NH hemisphere to make them less reliant on teams travelling from the SH. Would allow them to have much more frequent international competition.

Two results for England Women this year - England 82 Wales 0 and France 0 England 42. Encapsulates our dilemma. Far too good for anyone in the NH, but expected to struggle next year against the Jillaroos.

Several Welsh players were missing due to RU commitments. Wales beat Netherlands to qualify for the 2026 WC. The tournament will take place at roughly the same time of year i.e. during the NH Union season. Can only hope a way is found for all their players to make themselves available for selection. Otherwise, Welsh involvement will be a travesty. Any one of Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Cook Islands would destroy the team Wales fielded at Headingley on Saturday.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

low hanging fruit

Issue for menopausal women.

 

[Bulldog2020]

It seems that a difference between the UK and Australia (or maybe it's just BBC vs nine) is that they like the afternoon timeslot. Rather than nighttime.
I wonder if next year vs Australia they would play at midday. Depending on the week this would mean 10pm or 11pm in Sydney. Surely it would be worth nine contributing money to make it worthwhile for the RFL.

 

[The_Wookie]

From Nines Annual Report