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2025 R21 Fri - Brisbane 20-22 Parramatta @ Suncorp

Round 21: Brisbane v Parramatta

  • Brisbane Broncos

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • Parramatta Eels

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

hineyrulz

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JamesRustle

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Really hard to tell but if anything his planted foot might be a cm behind the ball. I’m never quite sure on how they actually interpret this though. Is it purely based on where his feet are (whether planted or in the air?)
It's amazing the bunker has the skill set to rule on this but not forward passes... I mean they can assess whether body parts are in FRONT of the ball at the point it is kicked, but not apply the same skill set to the positional relativity of a ball between two points.
 

MRN

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It's amazing the bunker has the skill set to rule on this but not forward passes... I mean they can assess whether body parts are in FRONT of the ball at the point it is kicked, but not apply the same skill set to the positional relativity of a ball between two points.
I get what your saying but the difficulties with passes is the ball can travel forward when backwards out of the hands because of the players forward momentum.
So if looking solely at positioning of the ball between point A and B, you would get forward pass calls on legitimate passes. And I imagine always getting clear vision of the direction the ball comes out of the hands would be very tricky and is probably the biggest hurdle in getting bunker to rule on them.
But, yeah, some passes are so freaking obvious it just seems like a laugh that they can't rule on them at all.
 

moffla

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It's amazing the bunker has the skill set to rule on this but not forward passes... I mean they can assess whether body parts are in FRONT of the ball at the point it is kicked, but not apply the same skill set to the positional relativity of a ball between two points.
Well considering what we saw in the Roosters vs Storm game, I don’t think the bunker can assess offside vs onside anyway.
 

Apey

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genuinely not sure he was actually in front. Bunker specifically stated it’s 2 feet behind the ball. Relative to the 20m line I can’t see that he’s in front.

it’s the same as teddy last night. Every idiot is looking at the kicker’s body and not the ball

It's pretty close, so was Teddy's despite the outrage, it's very difficult to tell when there's not much in it because a) the perspective and b) even the lines on the field are warped from certain camera angles (best example is the overhead shot of the Teddy offside, the two 10m lines between where the kick occurred are not parallel when looking at a still image). Anyone who has one quick look at this image and is convinced either way probably don't understand perspective to start with tbh.

I don't really want the bunker to sit there and draw parallel lines (like I/we have the advantage of doing if we care enough) and do trigonometry though so I'd rather just go with whatever they call in these tight ones. Either that or pick a benefit of the doubt to the attack or defence and stick to it consistently.

For what its worth, I think Walsh was actually more offside than Teddy was - really depends how specific the rule is , I assume when they say both player's feet have to be behind the ball, that means you can't be in line, but it also means the furthest point back of the ball or where it contacts the kicker's foot?
 

BadnMean

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The Broncos are just a bit fragile.

Walsh is a better player the less he tries to do, if that makes sense.

There's probably too many chiefs and not enough Indians with Hunt out there as well.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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It's pretty close, so was Teddy's despite the outrage, it's very difficult to tell when there's not much in it because a) the perspective and b) even the lines on the field are warped from certain camera angles (best example is the overhead shot of the Teddy offside, the two 10m lines between where the kick occurred are not parallel when looking at a still image). Anyone who has one quick look at this image and is convinced either way probably don't understand perspective to start with tbh.

I don't really want the bunker to sit there and draw parallel lines (like I/we have the advantage of doing if we care enough) and do trigonometry though so I'd rather just go with whatever they call in these tight ones. Either that or pick a benefit of the doubt to the attack or defence and stick to it consistently.

For what its worth, I think Walsh was actually more offside than Teddy was - really depends how specific the rule is , I assume when they say both player's feet have to be behind the ball, that means you can't be in line, but it also means the furthest point back of the ball or where it contacts the kicker's foot?

I always took it to mean the front of the ball, back of the ball possibly makes him offside. Has this ever actually been clarified in the rules? Classic NRL if they’re all just making it up
 

JamesRustle

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I get what your saying but the difficulties with passes is the ball can travel forward when backwards out of the hands because of the players forward momentum.
So if looking solely at positioning of the ball between point A and B, you would get forward pass calls on legitimate passes. And I imagine always getting clear vision of the direction the ball comes out of the hands would be very tricky and is probably the biggest hurdle in getting bunker to rule on them.
But, yeah, some passes are so freaking obvious it just seems like a laugh that they can't rule on them at all.
Yep, just the obviously forward ones would be a good start..
 
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