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2025 Rabbitohs Round 8 - Vs Storm

speedster

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Mr latrell may have won us the roosters match but has been in poor form, this grabing players is when he is frustrated, bennet is trying to stir him into action, he is suppose to be our best player,but has done nothing, for someone trying to make up for his wrongdoings he is lackluster,and i dont think he is fit,losing weight dosent mean u can run miles,honestly unless he picks it up he is useless and i wouldnt resign him
He has obviously been frustrated not being selected in his preferred position and Wayne is obviously thinking picking him there is what will get the best out of him and improve our chances of winning.

I get he is a polarising player where some people love him and some people hate him and there's little in between. I don't care about any of that stuff.

I just want South Sydney to win. So does Wayne I reckon. You play your best players in their best positions is usually what works.
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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He has obviously been frustrated not being selected in his preferred position and Wayne is obviously thinking picking him there is what will get the best out of him and improve our chances of winning.

I get he is a polarising player where some people love him and some people hate him and there's little in between. I don't care about any of that stuff.

I just want South Sydney to win. So does Wayne I reckon. You play your best players in their best positions is usually what works.
The problem with your theory is Mitchell's best position is not FB.
It is C.
Why isn't he selected at FB for SOO?
What is our W/L record with him at FB?
 

speedster

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No problem. I just have always spoken up against injustice and will always do so. I also didn't misread your post. I knew exactly what you were saying.
Well I don't know what you're saying and I don't think you do either accusing me of devaluing a position in the team. What a load of nonsense!

And I'll bet Jye Gray is a team first kind of guy that wouldn't be sooking about injustice or even thinking it for a moment. He knows he's not a superstar yet. There's been no injustice for goodness sake. Just a team selection change. Life will go on.
 

speedster

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The problem with your theory is Mitchell's best position is not FB.
It is C.
Why isn't he selected at FB for SOO?
What is our W/L record with him at FB?
At SOO there are other guns to choose from. Everyone knows that. Our W/L record with him at FB you could look up yourself but from memory it's pretty good. The problem with Latrell, as we all know, has been missing too many games, not being a lousy fullback. He is an excellent fullback but a different kind. Not the high running metre type but more the high line break assist and try assist type.

He is no longer that younger running centre he was at the Roosters. His best attribute by far is his ball playing and in combo with Cody, the 2 of them can ignite the other.
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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Well I don't know what you're saying and I don't think you do either accusing me of devaluing a position in the team. What a load of nonsense!

And I'll bet Jye Gray is a team first kind of guy that wouldn't be sooking about injustice or even thinking it for a moment. He knows he's not a superstar yet. There's been no injustice for goodness sake. Just a team selection change. Life will go on.
So it's ok for Mitchell to "be frustrated" i. e. Sooking, because he is not selected in the position HE wants to be selected, which every football expert, former players, former and current rep coaches, thinks is NOT his best position, but it's not ok if Gray expresses "frustration" and if he does , he's not being "team first"?
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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At SOO there are other guns to choose from. Everyone knows that. Our W/L record with him at FB you could look up yourself but from memory it's pretty good. The problem with Latrell, as we all know, has been missing too many games, not being a lousy fullback. He is an excellent fullback but a different kind. Not the high running metre type but more the high line break assist and try assist type.

He is no longer that younger running centre he was at the Roosters. His best attribute by far is his ball playing and in combo with Cody, the 2 of them can ignite the other.
And yet, he is rated, as a pure footballer, better than all the other possible FB selections.
it's just none of them think he is a better FB than C
 

speedster

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So it's ok for Mitchell to "be frustrated" i. e. Sooking, because he is not selected in the position HE wants to be selected, which every football expert, former players, former and current rep coaches, thinks is NOT his best position, but it's not ok if Gray expresses "frustration" and if he does , he's not being "team first"?
Who said Latrell has been sooking? I didn't and I have seen no reports of it anywhere. Being frustrated is not at all the same as sooking. Look them both up.

In fact, Latrell has been doing the team a solid by agreeing to play out of position since there were so many outside backs missing. Wayne made that very clear that was the reason he was not playing fullback on return. Had we had most of our three-quarters available, he would have been fullback against the Roosters in his 1st game back. That's just a fact. But Wayne made it clear that Latrell was happy to put the team first and play out in the centres, then moved to 5/8 at half time and the weeks following.

But Wayne obviously feels it's time to fix things up because they didn't seem to be working last week, did they.

Why don't you email the club and take it up with Wayne eh? Just because I agree with the master coach legend, doesn't mean it's on me.
 
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Well I don't know what you're saying and I don't think you do either accusing me of devaluing a position in the team. What a load of nonsense!

And I'll bet Jye Gray is a team first kind of guy that wouldn't be sooking about injustice or even thinking it for a moment. He knows he's not a superstar yet. There's been no injustice for goodness sake. Just a team selection change. Life will go on.
To say that he is not simply a fullback implies being a fullback is restricting him. That is why you are devaluing that position. I also believe it is most certainly an injustice when a young player who has performed admirably in a position only to have to make way for a more high profile player who has been underperforming. If Trell wants to be fullback again let him earn it by playing good football.
 

speedster

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And yet, he is rated, as a pure footballer, better than all the other possible FB selections.
it's just none of them think he is a better FB than C
What? Rated by whom? For Origin, Tedesco and Edwards - and even Turbo - are ahead of him. I don't rate him a better fullback than any of those. Plus at SOO level, he has quality footballers inside him that can get the best use of him out in the centres,

At our club, he is best suited at FB. We aren't great at putting our centres into space. Our best play usually cuts out the centre to put our wingers away. And when it's not Cody, it's Latrell who's throwing those passes.
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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To say that he is not simply a fullback implies being a fullback is restricting him. That is why you are devaluing that position. I also believe it is most certainly an injustice when a young player who has performed admirably in a position only to have to make way for a more high profile player who has been underperforming. If Trell wants to be fullback again let him earn it by playing good football.
Gray has performed more than "admirably ".
He's been Souths best player.
And judging by the current Dally M standings, one of the best in the comp.
 

speedster

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To say that he is not simply a fullback implies being a fullback is restricting him. That is why you are devaluing that position. I also believe it is most certainly an injustice when a young player who has performed admirably in a position only to have to make way for a more high profile player who has been under performing. If Trell wants to be fullback again let him earn it by playing good football.
HE IS NOT ONLY A FULLBACK. HE IS MUCH BETTER THAN THAT. And how is Latrell supposed to "earn" the fullback position back if he can't get a look in at fullback? You make no sense. Again you ignore the entirety of Latrell's fabulous career and cherry pick just the first 7 games of this season where he hasn't been able to have his shot yet.

You are devaluing Jye by restricting him to only being a fullback in your mind when what I am saying is he has more strings to his bow than just that. He was a 5/8 coming through the juniors and many GOOD judges believe he is the heir apparent to Cody in the 6 jersey.

I made a simple positive comment that I think it would be good for his development to play in other possies and not be stuck purely in the 1 and you twist things round to accuse me of devaluing fullback as a position in the team? That still makes no sense and you are dead wrong. Give up on this mindless emotional attack on me, have a cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down and let's hope you come to your sense by tomorrow eh WOJO?
 

speedster

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Gray has performed more than "admirably ".
He's been Souths best player.
And judging by the current Dally M standings, one of the best in the comp.
Totally agree. I'll bet anything Wayne does too.

So what? You think anyone needs this pointed out? You think this must mean people haven't noticed how well Jye gray has been going?

You guys are just losing your minds and clearly can't settle your emotions down.
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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Who said Latrell has been sooking? I didn't and I have seen no reports of it anywhere. Being frustrated is not at all the same as sooking. Look them both up.

In fact, Latrell has been doing the team a solid by agreeing to play out of position since there were so many outside backs missing. Wayne made that very clear that was the reason he was not playing fullback on return. Had we had most of our three-quarters available, he would have been fullback against the Roosters in his 1st game back. That's just a fact. But Wayne made it clear that Latrell was happy to put the team first and play out in the centres, then moved to 5/8 at half time and the weeks following.

But Wayne obviously feels it's time to fix things up because they didn't seem to be working last week, did they.

Why don't you email the club and take it up with Wayne eh? Just because I agree with the master coach legend, doesn't mean it's on me.
Who said Latrell has been sooking? I didn't and I have seen no reports of it anywhere. Being frustrated is not at all the same as sooking. Look them both up.

In fact, Latrell has been doing the team a solid by agreeing to play out of position since there were so many outside backs missing. Wayne made that very clear that was the reason he was not playing fullback on return. Had we had most of our three-quarters available, he would have been fullback against the Roosters in his 1st game back. That's just a fact. But Wayne made it clear that Latrell was happy to put the team first and play out in the centres, then moved to 5/8 at half time and the weeks following.

But Wayne obviously feels it's time to fix things up because they didn't seem to be working last week, did they.

Why don't you email the club and take it up with Wayne eh? Just because I agree with the master coach legend, doesn't mean it's on me.
Gee, I didn't realize that players deserve special credit and praise for agreeing to play in a position that is not regular to their wants/wishes.

I'm just rebutting what you are using as your deductions for strategy. And, saying that it isn't just me, a nobody, whose saying it, and you know who they are, starting with Mal, Freddy, Daley, Brandy, Ennis, Sam, etc etc. There wouldn't be enough space on these pages if I listed every single one.

Its ok not to be a propaganda mouthpiece, and refute all disagreements to Wayne's doctine, if he really believes it. He is human too. After all, he said Demetriou was a great coach, and deserved to be picked as his successor......
 
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All I know is nobody in their right mind would have said Reyno needs to play hooker as he is not simply a halfback. Sure Jye could probably make a good fist of other positions but he is killing it at fullback. It is utter foolishness to move him just in the hopes it will ignite Trell to start firing up.
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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All I know is nobody in their right mind would have said Reyno needs to play hooker as he is not simply a halfback. Sure Jye could probably make a good fist of other positions but he is killing it at fullback. It is utter foolishness to move him just in the hopes it will ignite Trell to start firing up.
And it's not like you/we are asking for Mitchell to be played in a position that is unfamiliar to him, like wing, hooker, lock.
We are saying he should be playing in a position that he is generally rated as the best in the world - centre.
Combined with actually removing a guy who has been the team's best player - by far - and is being judged as being one of the best in the comp so far, to make him play from the bench, and unless a catastrophic injury occurs, will end up playing half a game or there abouts
 

speedster

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You guys sound like you're campaigning harder than Albo and Dutton to try and get Wayne to change his team selections before game time.

Email the club and point this repetitious stuff at Wayne. Or find his address and picket outside his home. I'm just a supporter that thinks the coach knows better. LOL!
 
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Coaches are not infallible. They can and do make mistakes. I clearly think Wayne is making a monumental mistake with this move. As to emailing the club, if it would have any bearing on Waynes decision I would do it in a heartbeat. It won't so I am left with the option of voicing my opinion here in a place designed for such things.
 

doyen

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The move to the bench is a plus for GRAY--he would already be on the radar to play SOO for QLD as a bench player--he has no chance of playing FB at this stage--but as a super sub/utility he is better placed to further his career---FB ,5/8 ,1/2, hooker, wing---he would be OK with this move to the bench,I reckon---he has already proven himself as a quality 1st grade player--I feel that this is a big opportunity for him to enhance his status even further !!!
 

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