Vanilla Dice said:
I think its time that some of the posters who continually knock the teams administration outed themsleves and their personal aspirations for office within the club
huh? I don't think that anyone here wants the CEO's job..... a few of us here would consider running for the board, however, if things dont right themselves by the time elections roll around. And what is wrong with that? As members we have the right and duty to do so. Are the current board selfish for having stood for their positions?
You seem to imply that people are trying to hold management accountable for the mess we are in for selfish reasons. That is downright offensive and one wonders what YOUR vested interest is in making suck an assertion.
Like any true supporter of our (once) great club, all we want from our admin is accountability, professionalism and best practice. If we feel that is not the case what is wrong with members being proactive and trying to make a positive difference? Are you saying that the guys that have had years to get it right and failed dismally are all of a sudden the right guys for the job? What changed? Hill leaving? Give me a break.
Noone outside of the official loop can understand the complexities of adjustments for long term injuries, the new sponsor allowances, the increase of base salary cap based on increased team sponsorship since 2001.
seems that those IN the 'official loop' are having alot of difficulty understanding it too. again, given the information that they have, im sure there are a number of people here that could work it out. We aren't idiots.
On top of all this there is the hangover from the Hill years with player payments backended to keep there short term view of the world.
the CEO and FOOTBALL MANAGER sign off on contracts. Hill has/had very little to do with it - he was chairman, not an executive officer. Sarge is gone, but what has the other guy responsible had to say about all this...?
I go on official announcments and media stories and since Hill has left I have seen
1. A new Sponsorship Manager
this is a good thing? Thurston was, by all accounts, a very effective operator.
2. A Managed Resignation of a football manger
while the skeletons that have spilled out of the closet don't paint him in the best light, lets not forget Sarge was PUSHED by the Chairman as he backed up his perversely close pal the CEO. There was no performance basis for his 'resignation' (perhaps in hindsight..) and it came at the worst possible time, just before the silly season. And this was 'managed'? I would hate to see an 'unplanned' resignation..... Im not going to go into who was right/wrong, but to say it was 'managed' is a joke.
3. A New Naming Rights Sponsor
That literally fell into their lap. C&A sees the Knights as a charity case, no question. This sponsorship was an attempt to be seen to be doing the right thing - the only value to C&A is good will - and it cannot be overlooked that the Knights admin did virtually NOTHING to land this one. Why hadn't they approached C&A themselves? Why did it take Costa to get it happening? What are they going to do when C&A pulls out? Back to square one. There is still no sustainable approach here.
4. Confirmation of deliberate and thoughtfull talks with wests
what happened to this 'report' coming back in 6 months time before they do anything? Makes a bit of a mockery of that approach to now be in 'deliberate and thoughtful' talks, doesn't it? If they werent actually going to wait for this 'report', then why couldn't these talks have happened 6 months ago? There is also still no where near a guarantee of any link there. I guess the real litmus test will come when terms are negotiated - it wouldnt suprise for Wests to request that certain administrators are replaced - when/if this comes, will they stand aside for the good of the club, or will they cling to power? Only time will tell.
..... and 13 losses.
6. An open statement on the position of the salary cap and the difficulties they face fitting new players under it
what? 'we are going to make you all offers, we need you, we want you, but we wont be competitive'......
I understand the need for tact, but there is also a need to be HONEST, not pussy foot around. Why has there been no mention of PERFORMANCE - our managers are too busy trying to be nice to be frank about this.
The fact that we have a wooden-spoon roster, and the inability to recruit as we are nearly full, speaks volumes. Sarge can take alot of blame for this, but who is the guy who oversees his performance.... he must also take the blame, and probably should take the fall as well.
7. Negotiation of the Real NRL to guarantee an overdraft should it be required
whoopty damn doo. They are a stakeholder with nearly half the board. This is no accomplishment.
And a general willingness to share information and transparency of operation that never took place in the old Power Tower days.
you are joking right? The only reason they are 'willing to share information' is because they are well and truly under the pump due to abysmal performance. Maybe the hard questions weren't asked back in the 'old days' because we were actually WINNING, have you thought of that?
The more things change....
We are all armchair experts who can say well I would have no sponsor problems and I would have x and I would buy y and I would have full time arsewipers for all the players. The bottom line is that there is a team of people who have to make decisions on the numbers they have and react to situations like Bathurst. There are always comprises and never utopian solultions
of course. but does this negate the need for accountability?
is it impossible that others could do the job better than the current guys?
I love my club and I am encouraged by the new direction that Tyler has seemingly bought to the organisation. Remember it was Tyler who brought Conway to the job in the first place. Maybe these guys were meant to work together.
how long has tyler been there? how long has he had the opportunity to bring this 'direction' the the club? He didnt just pop out of a space ship, he has been on the board for years. As for bringing in Conway, explain why his (Conway's reign) has coincided with our demise?
Too strong a coincidence to be disregarded....
So all you knockers put up or shut up. I personally tipped a 5 figure amount into the club this year so what have you done and what are you willing to do?
Good on you. I dont have the sort of cabbage available to do that, but certainly would if possible. Doesn't give you the right to talk in such a condescending manner to the rest of us though.
As for what we are doing, we are attempting to engage the administration constructively to help in any way possible. As mere 'little people' we aren't exactly empowered to do much else. We put up, and we will never shut up.
I suggest you PM me and actually learn what is going on before going on like this again.
Most posters here also love the club they live the dream and die the deaths with the players. We harbor no ambitions other than to see our guys do well, you few guys are abusing our passion for personal gain.
That is downright offensive and warrants an apology. You think we give up our time, go through this pain, for personal gain? What do we have to gain? Tell me that smart man. We love the club LESS because we are trying to help it be successful?? pull your head in.
no,
Shame on YOU.
how dare you cast these aspersions on anyone.
