2nd Ashes Test: Australia v England at Adelaide, Dec 2-6 2017

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  1. Eelectrica

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    Handscombe better start hitting them well in the nets if he wants to keep playing this series.
    Bowling well in the nets could be an idea too.
     
  2. typicalfan

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    I think Handscomb is out of form and has been well scouted by the England quicks. I thought he might turn it around in the first innings but still has some work to do.

    I canโ€™t see Marsh being any better though.
     
  3. TheParraboy

    TheParraboy Moderator Staff Member

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    Shall we ban him?
     
  4. Twizzle

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    he posts under the name of Leeds Whino
     
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  5. TheParraboy

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  6. The Mad Hatter

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    They can't drop Renshaw and then let Handscomb get away with flailing about.

    They have - ahem, cough, cough "options" - Maxwell, M Marsh, Burns...

    We know their favourites are but if Australia are serious, they'll drop Handscomb for Perth.
     
  7. Tiger5150

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    Bit late catching up with the end of this thread but it was frustrating to read..pages and pages of people whinging that Smith had done the wrong thing not enforcing the follow on, everyone knew better because we let them back into the game,

    Games over and then cue everyone (pretty much the same people) complaining that we wont get through the series with just the three quicks.

    Thats the whole Point!

    Keep this bowling unit intact, Australia wins the series and if long enough we win 5-0. Its as simple as that. This pommie batting line up is not capable of withstanding them and THAT is the reason Smith didnt enforce the follow on. Three great but historically fragile bowlers. The risk he ran was taht the poms could get in and then the bowler have to churn out long overs damaging the chances at the end of the series..

    Australia won, bowlers churned out the minimum possible overs over the longest possible time, go to Perth fresh.

    2/3 of the way there. Looked ugly but good result
     
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    Sorry guys, looks like I called it. Of to slam my head in the door a few times now.
     
  9. The Mad Hatter

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    I still think he would have had the Poms reeling making them follow on.

    But a win is a win. Smith can sleep soundly, breathe again.

    Joe Root with all the work to do.
     
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  10. Tiger5150

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    Of course the ultimate result would have been the same, which is the whole point. Win the test with our potent yet brittle attack each putting in 40-50 overs in and unbroken stretch, or the same result with almost a days break for our quicks, with an eye to the series ahead?

    There was a stumble, but they did the right thing.
     
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  11. The Mad Hatter

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    Yeah fair enough.

    My heart rate and tension in my neck have seemed to stabilise.

    2-0 up is a pretty good start to the summer.

    I've put the razors away too.
     
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  12. Tiger5150

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    I was pissed off that we didnt crush the poms when the opportunity was there, but late in the Perth Test when we are still firing on all cylinders to go 3 -0 up or even better late at Sydney to go 5-0 we should all look back at this decision.
     
  13. Mr Angry

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    So yeah we have an all NSW bowling team, world class, right arm express, left arm express, right arm bounce line and length and a spinner.

    When we bat we have Smith.

    I just want a left arm leg spinner.

    Like really, every left armed kid should try leg spin, chinaman is the word.

    I just want to see a left arm wrist spinner, Who can bat.


    My goal
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    Right arm express,Left arm express, Right arm bounce line and length, an off spinner, then my dream all rounder, bats like Lara, bowls like Warne in reverse.

    Fields at slip. Next to Smith
     
  14. Mr Angry

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    Simple blue print, could be done in any country.

    Batter's get the kudos.

    Bowlers win matches.

    Sobers gets kudos for that.

    He could bowl, totally under rated.
     
  15. The Mad Hatter

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    I get annoyed a bit with bats who contribute not a lot with the bat, then they drop catches in the field.
     
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    Allan Border
    Mark Taylor
    Steve Waugh
    Ricky Ponting


    Steve Smith....a far, far cry.
     
  17. Mr Angry

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    haha, freaky but actually better.
     
  18. Cherry_poppins

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    Smith is a not a great slip
     
  19. TheParraboy

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    Cant disagree with a lot of what you have said, however

    Had Smith enforced the follow on the bowlers would have only bowled 20 odd overs before having a full nights rest. So really not much difference to what they had anyway, even if we scored more runs its not like the conditions were hot or the pitch was a deadless road.

    Poms would have been shitting bricks had they been forced to follow on. This is the trick Smith missed. We would have gotten at least a couple of wickets, probably more. You could see them get a new lease of life when we chose to bat again. 4/50 wasn't it?

    Lastly to the main point I want to make here, If we have the mentality of "resting" the bowlers during a test match, WHEN the conditions present themselves as best for bowling in the cool of an evening , then we will get our pants pulled down in a test soon enough. Pat Cummins bowled his ass off in the heat of India and pulled through ok.
     
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    I have no doubt the fragility of our bowlers was the main contributing factor behind the decision. We certainly have a different mindset to when we forced Dravid and VVS Laxman to follow on many years ago.
     

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