2ND ASHES TEST: England v Australia at Lord's Jul 18-22, 2013

[lockyno1]

I'm not doubting your facts.

Just doubting the criteria.

You don't drop someone after taking five wickets in an innings.

Happy to be wrong, and to be fair Siddle is a much more mature bowler now to what he was then, but if he doesn't bowl well I won't be happy especially when Bird is fit!

 

[Meapro Ham]

I think they'll be looking to get Warner back in for the 3rd test. Gonna be fairly ridiculous if Khawaja gets dropped after one test for Warner but I can see it happening. Hopefully Khawaja gets enough runs to prevent it.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Happy to be wrong, and to be fair Siddle is a much more mature bowler now to what he was then, but if he doesn't bowl well I won't be happy especially when Bird is fit!

Personally I agree.

I don't really rate siddle.

He's a solid stock bowler who tries his heart out.


But long term there are better options coming through.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I think they'll be looking to get Warner back in for the 3rd test. Gonna be fairly ridiculous if Khawaja gets dropped after one test for Warner but I can see it happening. Hopefully Khawaja gets enough runs to prevent it.

From what I've heard the plan is to bring Warner back in down the order.

So smith & Hughes might need to get some runs as well.



Whatever the case , Warner has to come back in asap for mine.

 

[lockyno1]

Personally I agree.

I don't really rate siddle.

He's a solid stock bowler who tries his heart out.


But long term there are better options coming through.

There are a lot of quicks coming through which is a good thing actually. Just wish there was a spinner or two (I see Agar as a number 6 bat, Jadeja style in other words)

 

[herbert henry1908]

There are a lot of quicks coming through which is a good thing actually. Just wish there was a spinner or two (I see Agar as a number 6 bat, Jadeja style in other words)

As I said earlier , for a 19 yo Agar is a very good spinner.

Any teenage spinner that can take 33 wickets @ 30 has a big future in front of him.


He may well bat 6 or 7 , particularly when Watson's gone. But he'll take a heap of test wickets imo .

 

[BunniesMan]

Very happy with the changes. Exactly the ones I called for the final night of the last test. Lehmann knows his stuff.

Now upto Clarke to get the order right. Hughes at 3, Khawaja at 4, Clarke at 5. Our 3 biggest talents should be at 3, 4 and 5. That's where the 150s and 200s get made. We need big tons and they are our best chances to get them.

 

[Timbo]

Meanwhile in Harare, Davey Warner just got out for 6 against medium-pace pie-chucker Kyle Jarvis.

 

[ceagle]

Looks like Finn out, Tremlett in

 

[Timbo]

Tremlett! That's a bit from left field.

Presents the same problems for Hughes though, steepling bounce outside off.

 

[Meapro Ham]

Our 3 biggest talents should be at 3, 4 and 5. That's where the 150s and 200s get made..

That's right. That's why Hughes will be at 6 again. And probably dropped for Warner for the 3rd test.

 

[BunniesMan]

That's not good. We were on top of Finn. I rate Tremlett.

 

[TheParraboy]

Meanwhile in Harare, Davey Warner just got out for 6 against medium-pace pie-chucker Kyle Jarvis.

Did he face 2 balls?

 

[BunniesMan]

That's right. That's why Hughes will be at 6 again. And probably dropped for Warner for the 3rd test.

You're just a Hughes hater. Warner won't be back for the 3rd test. And especially not for our best batsman in the 1st test.

 

[TheParraboy]

two thirds of a quiney, back in form I reckon

 

[Timbo]

Did he face 2 balls?

That was my first thought too.

Faced about 10 and hit one four.

 

[BunniesMan]

Did he face 2 balls?

:lol:
His innings:
0,0,0,1,0,0,1,4,out.

On the plus side, a strikerate of 166 in his last 3 balls. He was just getting in the zone.

 

[Meapro Ham]

You're just a Hughes hater. Warner won't be back for the 3rd test. And especially not for our best batsman in the 1st test.

No that's right Warner won't replace Agar. But he's a big chance of replacing Hughes. It's a no brainer really. Warner stats are vastly superior than Hughes. Hughes stats are barely better than Cowan. He's definitely next on the chopping block. That's why he's at 6.

 

[BunniesMan]

Looks like having a fantastic pitch to bat. Win the toss and you go a long way to winning.

Australia has an excellent record at Lords and teams winning the toss have an excellent record at Lords. Half way there.

 

[BunniesMan]

No that's right Warner won't replace Agar. But he's a big chance of replacing Hughes. It's a no brainer really. Warner stats are vastly superior than Hughes. Hughes stats are barely better than Cowan. He's definitely next on the chopping block. That's why he's at 6.

He was the highest scorer in the top 6. He has 4 50s in the 8 tests he has played since getting back in the team. He isn't getting dropped anytime soon.