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2ND TEST: Australia v West Indies Adelaide Oval Dec 4 - Dec 8 2009

Hallatia

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I think Windies will see out the day, especially if Nash is going to come back this innings
 
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It deviated off the bat, it was out. No doubt in my mind he hit it. He got away with the first one, not so lucky on the 2nd occasion. The reality though is he hit it. Hotspot was never going to show it as the angle of the bat was not straight. Snicko confirmed the edge, frankly that is enough evidence for me to give the decision.

The reality is there was absolutely no conclusive proof he hit it. The deviation you saw could have been camera trickery ... it happens a lot. And you should never use snicko to confirm something.

The fact is, if that was Watson as batsmen and given out based on that evidence you would be up in arms and disgruntled.

It was plainly an awful decision.
 

Hallatia

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Nash is back bit Bravo's out, I still think Windies will see the day through, but I am not sure if Australia will see out the "minimum overs remaining"
 

leo9999

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The reality is there was absolutely no conclusive proof he hit it. The deviation you saw could have been camera trickery ... it happens a lot. And you should never use snicko to confirm something.

The fact is, if that was Watson as batsmen and given out based on that evidence you would be up in arms and disgruntled.

It was plainly an awful decision.


If theres any doubt then the 1st decsion stands. which is not out. The 3rd umpire how on earth did he change the decsion is beyond me. There was no proof at all that he had hit it. Shocking call in my opinion.

But then again im sure Chanderpaul's Reaction after being given out would have being differnt didnt show any sign of frustration just walked off so maybe he knew he hit it.
 

lockyno1

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The reality is there was absolutely no conclusive proof he hit it. The deviation you saw could have been camera trickery ... it happens a lot. And you should never use snicko to confirm something.

The fact is, if that was Watson as batsmen and given out based on that evidence you would be up in arms and disgruntled.

It was plainly an awful decision.

He hit it, there is a clear deviation from the bat. The ball does not change it's seam movement as it goes past the bat unless there is a nick. It did. Therefore, beyond any reasonable doubt he was out. I agree with the challenge being overturned, if it was Watson I'd say the same thing!
 

lockyno1

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Exactly and lets be honest he was very lucky to survive the first one. As a batsman you know if you hit it. Chanderpaul looked directly to the keeper. OUT!
 

Fui!!!

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Exactly and lets be honest he was very lucky to survive the first one. As a batsman you know if you hit it. Chanderpaul looked directly to the keeper. OUT!

So we are gonna use body language as an official means now... How many time do players look directly at the ref (in league) after they score... You could assume they knocked on or were offside...
 

typicalfan

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The first one was out, you could see it in normal speed let alone on slomo, hot spot picked something up but wasnt enough to warrant confirmation? Chanderpaul will think he is lucky to have made 62 that is for sure.
 

hineyrulz

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PB Has had too many beers, Locky as usual has nothing. When
Hilfy comes back sh*ttle should make way.
He's struggled against an average windies side.
 

lockyno1

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So we are gonna use body language as an official means now... How many time do players look directly at the ref (in league) after they score... You could assume they knocked on or were offside...

You ever batted in the top order? When you hit it, you do instinctly have a look at where it goes!
 

lockyno1

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exactly.. I swear half the clowns around these parts have no clue.

Agreed. It is not a stupid statement, it might sound silly, but if you have ever played cricket the first rule is to watch where the ball goes. Reality is when you hit it even off a nick you watch it, it is instinct!
 

yappy

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You ever batted in the top order? When you hit it, you do instinctly have a look at where it goes!

You do post some total crap locky, but this is 100%. Very very few batsman are able to stop themselves looking back if they get a tickle, and almost none ever look back if they miss it. It's a huge give away.
 
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