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2nd trial vs tigers

Auntie.Gerald

First Grade
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I know where you are coming from HH

If we take the edge bakrowers for example and the 160mins only available this weekend

If RFM is injury free this weekend we need to get some serious game time (preferably 40mins).

We have Sua and Eisenhuth who need closer to 60mins each for this last trial before NRL round 1.

R Couchman who is a head of the young brigade (albeit he is pretty much same age / just turned 20yrs old) (20mins)

Egan is ahead of the other young backrowers so far (20mins)

Im not sure it helps our cause to be ready for round 1 as best as we can ie we cant take minutes away from the above players?
 

hook hook

Juniors
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I know where you are coming from HH

If we take the edge bakrowers for example and the 160mins only available this weekend

If RFM is injury free this weekend we need to get some serious game time (preferably 40mins).

We have Sua and Eisenhuth who need closer to 60mins each for this last trial before NRL round 1.

R Couchman who is a head of the young brigade (albeit he is pretty much same age / just turned 20yrs old) (20mins)

Egan is ahead of the other young backrowers so far (20mins)

Im not sure it helps our cause to be ready for round 1 as best as we can ie we cant take minutes away from the above players?
Yeah I get the thinking behind that, but who’s to say that the couchmans or Egan can have a bigger impact against first graders without trialling others?
 

Jeremy Dragon

Juniors
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In the 2nd trial I’d love to see how a few of the cup guys in specialised positions go against a few of the tigers 1st graders. Like rumble in fullback and Nick T having a crack in the edge. Nick T was a beast when he got the call up for cup last year
Nick T is injured and has not trained this year, did you not notice he wasn't named in any team list last week
 

This Year?

Immortal
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I want to see the opposition not making an easy 10-15m every carry and getting a quick ruck. I want to see support on either side of the ball runner when someone takes a hitup. I want to see combinations starting to form. I want to see our kids not hung out to dry like the last 20 minutes in the 1st trial.
 

Parko1310

Juniors
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Not sure when Lomax's back spasms started in the first trial, but early on in the game he came off his wing into the middle of the field to set up a shift to the left. He was also supporting each ball runner throughout that set before making his pass to the left. He didn't come in and do that again at all during the game, so maybe the back issue began early on.

If he starts on the wing again which I assume he will I'd like to see him come in field more often and see how that works before he moves to fullback in the second quarter/half. Based off only that one set, he seems to have his support play miles ahead of Sloan at the moment. There's a possibility we end up with essentially two fullbacks on the field during some sets, which I think will be really interesting to see how it works.
 

2218

Juniors
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Not sure when Lomax's back spasms started in the first trial, but early on in the game he came off his wing into the middle of the field to set up a shift to the left. He was also supporting each ball runner throughout that set before making his pass to the left. He didn't come in and do that again at all during the game, so maybe the back issue began early on.

If he starts on the wing again which I assume he will I'd like to see him come in field more often and see how that works before he moves to fullback in the second quarter/half. Based off only that one set, he seems to have his support play miles ahead of Sloan at the moment. There's a possibility we end up with essentially two fullbacks on the field during some sets, which I think will be really interesting to see how it works.
Be similar to the ol inside outside centre
 

TheRev

First Grade
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I agree about a much smaller squad, 28 is more for giving players a taste, and it's rly pointless having fifita on for what felt like 2 minutes.

The only catch is that I still don't think Flanagan knows his 1 thru 6, he probably needs to test in the 2nd half... It's a real sh1t that lomax didn't play fullback due to his back as flanno will still have that question unanswered.
 

TheRev

First Grade
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Although I'm happy our pack started well in the charity shield.. It did feel like we were there to win silverware, and they were there for a pre Vegas gallop.. But anyway.. Just a trial.. Rly interested to play another spoon favourite this weekend.
 

FlickFlano

Juniors
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Was it us throwing out a bunch of kids with no business playing 1sts against the likes of Keppie/moala that led you to that conclusion.

I get the imprsssion that flano wanted to see if our starting pack and nrl bench were up to it and they are.
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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Not sure when Lomax's back spasms started in the first trial, but early on in the game he came off his wing into the middle of the field to set up a shift to the left. He was also supporting each ball runner throughout that set before making his pass to the left. He didn't come in and do that again at all during the game, so maybe the back issue began early on.

If he starts on the wing again which I assume he will I'd like to see him come in field more often and see how that works before he moves to fullback in the second quarter/half. Based off only that one set, he seems to have his support play miles ahead of Sloan at the moment. There's a possibility we end up with essentially two fullbacks on the field during some sets, which I think will be really interesting to see how it works.
I think that Lomax could have pulled something in his back when he leapt to catch a few of the bombs that were put up in our attacking moves earlyish in the game. He was going for them and in doing so may have stretched a bit to hard. My guess only Parko.
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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This game against the Tigers should be a beauty out Mudgee way this weekend. I presume it is a home game for us so we might have some advantage but the Tigers will not in any way be easy beats - they have improved their squad with "better" players than what we have I think and last year we played them twice in the comp and it was one win to each club.

Their attacking game will be good so our defence will need to be spot on.

Even though this is just a trial, a win will give us more confidence for when we play our first game against the Titans in March.
 
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kit66

Bench
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I reckon Flanno will want to make it more of a game this week against Wests. I'm pretty sure RFM is unavailable.
He's highly likely to start the same 13 and give them more time on the field ;

1. Sloan 2. Lomax 3. Suli 4. Bird 5. Rav 6. Kyle 7. Hunt
8. Frankie 9. Liddle 10. Blocker 11. the Hoof 12. Su'a 13. JDB.

with maybe a bench of ;

14. Marschke
15. Sele
16. T.Coachman - can play prop or 2nd row
17. Fifita - he'll want more game time and hopefully in the first half against men. (Round 1 17. RFM, Fifita to extra 18).

18. Tamale - personal choice, I want him in 1st grade asap, was a standout for me in CS.
19. BMM
20. Egan
21. Tuipulotu
22. Tuitavake / Finau ?

Flanno might feel he needs Mulheisen on the bench but if I'm coach and feel Liddle needs a rest I'm switching Kyle to Hooker and sending on Marschke to 5/8.

Saints 11+
Mudgee is virtually a home ground for us against interlopers Wests.
 

BlackDuckSaint

Juniors
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I reckon Flanno will want to make it more of a game this week against Wests. I'm pretty sure RFM is unavailable.
He's highly likely to start the same 13 and give them more time on the field ;

1. Sloan 2. Lomax 3. Suli 4. Bird 5. Rav 6. Kyle 7. Hunt
8. Frankie 9. Liddle 10. Blocker 11. the Hoof 12. Su'a 13. JDB.

with maybe a bench of ;

14. Marschke
15. Sele
16. T.Coachman - can play prop or 2nd row
17. Fifita - he'll want more game time and hopefully in the first half against men. (Round 1 17. RFM, Fifita to extra 18).

18. Tamale - personal choice, I want him in 1st grade asap, was a standout for me in CS.
19. BMM
20. Egan
21. Tuipulotu
22. Tuitavake / Finau ?

Flanno might feel he needs Mulheisen on the bench but if I'm coach and feel Liddle needs a rest I'm switching Kyle to Hooker and sending on Marschke to 5/8.

Saints 11+
Mudgee is virtually a home ground for us against interlopers Wests.
What about Tamale stood out to you?

I was really looking forward to Egan and Tamale getting a run and neither of them did anything of note to me. Not that that is a huge issue given they are both so young and learning their craft.

I am hoping that they have blown away the rust and can just attack the game a bit more this week, ideally with more support from seasoned first graders. Not just thrown to the wolves with the rest of the NSW cup team
 

TheRev

First Grade
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Was it us throwing out a bunch of kids with no business playing 1sts against the likes of Keppie/moala that led you to that conclusion.

I get the imprsssion that flano wanted to see if our starting pack and nrl bench were up to it and they are.
Is that for me? There were positives absolutely as I have mentioned before, but to take a more glass-half-empty (and apologies for a darker perspective), but this is also how I see it:

o 1st-Half: We were always going to out-enthuse them early, this was a new coach, new team.. it was our chance to get some respect against a side busy booking tickets to Vegas.. and missing 6 of their starting 13, really our defence didn't have to defend too much without their spine in place... its the kind of energy we have had under Hook and Mary at different times.. I used to call it playing finals-intensity footy in April.

o 2nd-Half: That energy had already shifted before Flanno started pulling players off (Hunt excepted),that wasnt the reason we lost... imo.. it was the first half where we made too many errors, and didnt convert that early possession, their forwards seemed to wake out of their early slumber as the match went on, Murray the bastard tore us a new one... but I felt like the match was over a long long way before fulltime.

o The worst part for me: I am no clearer on any of the backline positions for Round 1.. I think having 28 players hurt us, but I didnt think Tamale or Tuipuluto or SFinau or the Feagais or Glover or any of the starting backline were amazing.. nobody put their hand up bar maybe Marschke.. but that sux for us... im really hoping a couple stand out inour final trial this weekend.
 
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