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3-2-1 v Eels

NZ Warrior

First Grade
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All I'm going to say, is that I was impressed with Leuluai.
It makes a change, when the Warriors bring one of their own back, who has actually improved!
 

Alan Johnson

Juniors
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One of the moments that sort of summed up the game for me was when Locke jumps to catch an Eels bomb, spills it, and Fisiiahi runs onto the ball at full speed, inevitably fails to collect it and propels it miles forward for the Eels to stich together a broken-play try. The hopeful part of me thought "here we go, fisiiahi could go the length of the field here" but the sensible, pragmatic part of me just shook its head and quietly thought "he'll knock it on". (I think Locke probably knocked it on anyway, but still).
 

vvvrulz

Coach
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3. TL
2. Godinet
1. Matulino

-3. Johnson. Completely clueless performance, nothing on attack or defence. Is this really our #7?
-2. Hurrell. Unfit, slow, lazy cover defence.
-1. Taylor. Wasn't terrible but he isn't a #9 and the halves kept getting slow ball.

Just continued from where we left last year, rubbish performance.
After that TL try was turned down we just went to sleep, I couldn't believe how slack we were in covering Sandow and Hayne they just ran straight through us.

Wooden spoon if we play like that for 25 rounds.
 

Izz

Bench
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Why did Ikahihifo play most of the first half in the centres after Manu went off? The guy looks like he's spent all offseason bench pressing, and his lateral movement was terrible. Then throughout the second half, he was playing anywhere from second row to wing. Did we have absolutely no plan in place if one of our wingers got injured?
 
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Woeful performance, absolutely no energy or desire, looked like half of them didn't want to be there.

3. Matulino- never has a bad game
2. Godinet- provided spark as soon as he got on and actually had speed out of dummy half
1. Ikahihifo- damaging runs and was one of the only forwards bending the defensive line

I dont understand the criticism of the Fish, made some good reads on d multiple times and had to save Hurrells a couple times on top of that. The try his opposite winger scored when he rushed in was due to the fact hurrell got burned by Matiua. Had a bad fumble admittedly but he is least of our problems. At least he broke a few tackles but was not given any chances in space to show his speed.
 

Aragorn

First Grade
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-1 Matulino - lack of mongrel. Did you see the parra #16 punch him square in the face and Benny just shrugged it off as in "meh?".

There`s no fire in the belly with this team. Even Mannering is soft.

They need some hard men in the pack - a Monthy Betham, Campion, someone who isnt going to take that short of shiet and fire the team up........

i would throw Manu in there and tell him to use his boxing skills if he sees any of that on the field....

warriors are soft.
 

hitro

Juniors
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minus three two and one to Matt Elliot
talked his way into the job and his skill set is greasing (Owen Glenn's) ass
no improvement from last year
no tactics
no effective coaching
could be ugly at eden park
 

Meth

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-1 Matulino - lack of mongrel. Did you see the parra #16 punch him square in the face and Benny just shrugged it off as in "meh?".

There`s no fire in the belly with this team. Even Mannering is soft.

They need some hard men in the pack - a Monthy Betham, Campion, someone who isnt going to take that short of shiet and fire the team up........

i would throw Manu in there and tell him to use his boxing skills if he sees any of that on the field....

warriors are soft.

I thought Matulino just shrugging off Lussick's punch was great.
 

Mike0070

Juniors
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We've gone soft , Monty wouldnt have taken a punch to the face like Matulino did last night !!!

I know Mannering leads by example , but we are seriously lacking aggression in attack and defense.
 

Iafeta

Referee
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3 - Godinet
2 - T.L
1 - Nielsen

Rubbish effort from our prom queens tonight. So it's all Bluey fault eh? lol

My thoughts are that even on the Titanic they realised they were heading for an iceberg, but it was quite late in the piece to do anything about it. I don't know if you overturn all the bad habits from last year in the first few rounds. There's a lot of bad habits that came in last year that need to be weeded out. That will take time.
 

Aragorn

First Grade
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My thoughts are that even on the Titanic they realised they were heading for an iceberg, but it was quite late in the piece to do anything about it. I don't know if you overturn all the bad habits from last year in the first few rounds. There's a lot of bad habits that came in last year that need to be weeded out. That will take time.

Parra & Penrith would beg to differ....
 

Iafeta

Referee
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Disagree Aragorn. I would have thought Penrith are a prime example of this very fact. Ivan is a terrific coach. Yet last year Penrith were fairly ordinary under him. They were down near us last year. He's 12 months on in his journey to turn that club around than Elliott is.
 

Aragorn

First Grade
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my comment was in reference to Penriths 32-10 win over the Raiders today, and their unbeaten record in the pre-seaon which included a big win over yours truely.

Keep in mind, Elliot & the owners were not talking about this season as a re-building phase where they were grooming new players - they have the same roaster as last year - & 11 of the players played in the GF only a season earlier - so all the talent is there - its the application that is missing...
 

Iafeta

Referee
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I think a lot of it is mental, Aragorn. I've seen a lot of teams in a lot of codes go through losing streaks, and on paper they're a good team. If youin the habit of losing, those habits for some reason keep on going. And then you see blokes try hard, and perhaps at times too hard (EG yesterday, I thought Feleti was overdoing it and even in the ruck our blokes were desperate to slow it down, forgetting what should be fairly obvious that you will get penalised for holding onto the ball in the ruck).

Watching only the first 55 odd minutes, the errors are basic I feel. With clear minds they can probably be overcome. As for Elliott, my understanding is the bloke wanted only a 1 year contract, so that he could be judged on results. The club gave him 2 from memory. I think he accepts he's accountable irrespective of whats gone on before that he has to overcome. I don't think realistically I'm thinking of a premiership this year, a return to the top 8 would be acceptable for me, as long as they build off it the following year. Interestingly, I think today showed to me again how good a coach Ivan Cleary is, and perhaps the decision to replace him was a poor one. Ultimately, Scurrah is accountable for that, so if Elliott doesn't work out, Scurrah must go too.
 

Skinner

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my comment was in reference to Penriths 32-10 win over the Raiders today, and their unbeaten record in the pre-seaon which included a big win over yours truely.

Keep in mind, Elliot & the owners were not talking about this season as a re-building phase where they were grooming new players - they have the same roaster as last year - & 11 of the players played in the GF only a season earlier - so all the talent is there - its the application that is missing...

Jeez Ari, don't ruin your image by talking good sense man..:)
 
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