3 2 1 vs Cowboys/Sutton

[carcharias]

I love all hotdog stands.

Well I stood in the " slider " line for 20 mins just waiting to get served.
Then had to wait in the pick up food line for another 20.

f**king pooncy miniature burgers.
Too bad if your a fat merkin
You'd be spewin.

They were pretty good though.

Although never again.
It's hotdogs only

 

[Card Shark]

positioning for the kick, where he needed to be or too far infield?

Geez mate, you've copped a pounding today over this.

I don't agree his positioning was poor, it was ok imo.

Just watched your replay & my original thoughts stand, he f**ked up.

The bomb goes up & he's 10m infield & instead of heading to where the ball will land, he actually goes infield before heading to the sideline - he misjudged the kick.

So instead of having time to get to the sideline & catch it in a stationery position, he's on the move & inevitably slides over the sideline in some of Reefy's dew.

The Cowboys had over twice as far to travel to get to the ball but he only just beat there there. Perhaps as Chewie said, the swirling breeze played a part...doesn't hide the fact he could've done better.

 

[Feej]

Like I said before, we've all been mulling over it today and for some of you, the last few days. He had about a second to make a decision.

 

[Born BB&W]

Yeah don't want to step on anyone's toes but I didn't see much wrong with it.

It was what it was.

Could have been worse.

 

[Born BB&W]

Double post

 

[Defer to the coifed]

Double post

Try using your air brakes next time or just levitate.

 

[shaggs]

Well I stood in the " slider " line for 20 mins just waiting to get served.
Then had to wait in the pick up food line for another 20.

f**king pooncy miniature burgers.
Too bad if your a fat merkin
You'd be spewin.

They were pretty good though.

Although never again.
It's hotdogs only

I'm telling ya. The bratwurst guy in the southwest corner. Sausage, sauerkraut, onions, mustard and sauce. Bloody good.

 

[snoozer]

its like deliberately giving away a corner kick in soccer to barcelona

would you prefer to give them a good chance at a goal instead?

 

[Birdee_Num_Num]

just for the sake of the exercise lets say that quarter of the field is grided A-E along the in goal line and 1-5 along the touch line

as it was he was standing roughly in zone B3

the ball landed in A4

what zone would you have him stand keeping in mind the fullback was at roughly E2

I've made it easier for you

image 1 - beale in relation to the side line and leutele

- this clearly shows that beale is inside the line of leutele
- cardie and carina are right, he hesitates on the inside before heading out
- his body position is facing in field

image 2 - beale in relation to barba and kick chasers at the height of the bomb

- this clearly shows that barba is past the left up right with plenty of time before the kick drops
- he is well in position to help with any shorter in field kick (to the right of beale) if that were the chosen kick option by morgan

image 3 - leutele & Maloney in relation to the kick chasers (feldt & oneill)

- this clearly shows that leutele & Maloney, at all stages, have the support options covered
- ethan lowe is checked in his run by graham and drops off as a support option
- leutele mans up on feldt & jimmy does the same on oneill

image 4 - shape of the play

- not quite to scale but depicts the play as it unfolded
- leutele and jimmy defending outside shoulder
- tear drops give a thereabouts guide to kick areas the winger and fullback will protect
- x marks the spot

beale was positioning for the inside kick, he over compensated

use the corner of the field as your yard stick to positioning, create a 90 degree arc, left arm parallel to the sideline, right arm parallel to the try line, move in a forward direction towards the kick within the arc, this guarantees you know where you are in relation to the sideline and try line at all times

standing in field, as he did, defending a flatter style kick, means you are running away from the direction of the kick, with eyes for the ball, you lose sight of the sideline with all your momentum heading that way

imo positional mistake & the lower percentage play prevailed

it would have needed to be an absolute merkin of a bounce for something to happen and even then all options were heavily marked

 

[Birdee_Num_Num]

Geez mate, you've copped a pounding today over this.

I don't agree his positioning was poor, it was ok imo.

Just watched your replay & my original thoughts stand, he f**ked up.

The bomb goes up & he's 10m infield & instead of heading to where the ball will land, he actually goes infield before heading to the sideline - he misjudged the kick.

So instead of having time to get to the sideline & catch it in a stationery position, he's on the move & inevitably slides over the sideline in some of Reefy's dew.

The Cowboys had over twice as far to travel to get to the ball but he only just beat there there. Perhaps as Chewie said, the swirling breeze played a part...doesn't hide the fact he could've done better.

all good mate, I've got thicker skin than a few cat scratches and bitch slaps from millers :lol:

I know what I saw and I stick by it

 

[Birdee_Num_Num]

would you prefer to give them a good chance at a goal instead?

like I said mate, I believe it was low percentage of it eventuating into anything

inside players were well marked and feldt would have had to pull some miracle play out of his ass to do anything with that kick

a much higher percentage play is giving them a set start 20 out to run their block plays

 

[Birdee_Num_Num]

Like I said before, we've all been mulling over it today and for some of you, the last few days. He had about a second to make a decision.

absolutely feej, that's the name of the game though, everything is split second

 

[Birdee_Num_Num]

Bottom line - we all make mistakes or get caught in situations that look like we made a mistake...

It's called being human - even Andrew Johns dropped the ball from time to time.

Get over it.

Beale has done far better with us than I thought he ever could. I thought he was over-rated at the Broncos & Dragons (& Eels?) - he's good!

yes you are right

that goes for EVERYONE in the team, not just sacred cow

just banging home my point

 

[Birdee_Num_Num]

If he stood out where you think he should've Morgan would've just popped it over the top into the massive hole .

Harsh call

safe as houses, barba was there

 

[millersnose]

Your own graphic demonstrates Beale was positioned central to his zone
Your suggested position opens up all sorts of extra kicking options for the cows as you have created more space for them to kick to particularly on the inside

You forget he wasn't defending against that particular kick he was defending all possible kicks into his zone

And in any case the ball landed at roughly the same time the cows arrived so his starting position is not ultimately that important as it was a well placed kick to begin with in this particular case

I do think this has become the most analysed catch in this forums history with over a dozen spectators declaring Beales position not in error with you alone declaring it was

You have fought hard for your argument and I give you some respect for that

 

[carcharias]

safe as houses, barba was there

Like the knock on?
Or the dropped ball in the process of scoring?
Safe yeah but he still drops em.

The kick bends in the air too.
So Beale was probably closer to where he should've been than you think.

 

[coolumsharkie]

Not the first time it's happened in the NRL. It's the proper defense reaction to a difficult kick.

Why are we arguing?

 

[carcharias]

Not the first time it's happened in the NRL. It's the proper defense reaction to a difficult kick.

Why are we arguing?

Because it's fun
...and I'm right

 

[chewsta]

Speaking of arguing, Feej man you must have ruffled someones feathers on FB last night! hahaha

 

[Feej]

Speaking of arguing, Feej man you must have ruffled someones feathers on FB last night! hahaha

Oh boy...