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3P - Why the Delays?

bartman

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I can see where the suggestions stemmed from Fish, and it was quite amusing reading imo, when you pause to reflect on the hypocrisy of it all. But that's just my personal observation.

Sick of hearing about comparisons to the old regime tbh. Think we all need to move on.
Agree. But it didn't stop some - Sevens included, when he waded in - from making comparisons to the previous board for no reason...
 

bartman

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Something you're trying to say Suity? :lol:

Or do you think Sevens' contribution yesterday helped lessen the comparisons?
 

fish eel

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The comparisons go both way Bart, like all the comments about what was or wasnt said about the old board. I mean, who cares? They're gone. Move on and look forward and, TBH, lets talk footy.

We're looking at 5 in a row this weekend but we've spent nearly 300 posts basically talking crap.
 

bartman

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The comparisons go both way Bart, like all the comments about what was or wasnt said about the old board. I mean, who cares?
But I haven't made comparisons between the Boards at all... I have been passing opinion on posters in this thread who do, and on this new attitude that anyone questions about club issues is to be frowned upon or discouraged. I think that's a valid thing to discuss since it's come up in this one related thread.

They're gone. Move on and look forward and, TBH, lets talk footy. We're looking at 5 in a row this weekend but we've spent nearly 300 posts basically talking crap.
There's been plenty of footy talk in this place, as there should be. But I personally don't agree with the sentiments that people shouldn't be able to post their opinions on and discuss matters related to how they view their club, whatever their opinions might be. And I think it's valid to say so, in this one relevant thread.

I you choose to disagree about that for some reason, then that's fine too. :thumn
 

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But I haven't made comparisons between the Boards at all... I have been passing opinion on posters in this thread who do, and on this new attitude that anyone questions about club issues is to be frowned upon or discouraged. I think that's a valid thing to discuss since it's come up in this one related thread.

Thats fine if you think it's valid, I just think it's pretty pointless in referring to what was said/not said about the old board. They were there for a while, they're gone. Look forward not back

There's been plenty of footy talk in this place, as there should be. But I personally don't agree with the sentiments that people shouldn't be able to post their opinions on and discuss matters related to how they view their club, whatever their opinions might be. And I think it's valid to say so, in this one relevant thread.

I you choose to disagree about that for some reason, then that's fine too. :thumn

Fair enough, I just think it's disappointing in that at the peak of our season the most popular thread has been a spat about the board (yes, I know I've been involved to).

Much more interesting and exciting things to talk about on field at this point in time.
 

bartman

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It's more the attitude of my fellow posters I've been talking about in this thread, not really the Board/s...

One club issues/Board thread in five months isn't too bad imo, compared to the pages of footy threads here every day. If people didn't like this thread or think it relevant of further comment, they would read it or post in it, and it would sink...
 

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But I haven't made comparisons between the Boards at all... I have been passing opinion on posters in this thread who do, and on this new attitude that anyone questions about club issues is to be frowned upon or discouraged. I think that's a valid thing to discuss since it's come up in this one related thread.

No, what you've been doing is keeping this thread alive! Let it go for god's sake
 

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This is only my second contribution in 4 pages and neither of them have really been strongly related to the topics at hand.

Just goes to show this topic actually has legs and is not, as some have said (I'm looking at you, Twiz!), totally reliant on my constant blathering.
 

bartman

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No, what you've been doing is keeping this thread alive! Let it go for god's sake
No, I just respond to people quote my posts. Which surely it is in my right to do?

It takes more than one person to let it go... ;-) If people really didn't feel the need to read or post repsonses in the thread, it would indeed die.
 

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Jodeci it all makes me happy..by the way who are you? are u on the newly elected board of directors?

No champ, I'm not on the newly elected board of directors

There are some people here who know of me so I dont need to tell you who I 'am

Like everyone here, I'm just a supporter of the Eels who likes to have a say and that's waht the forum is about

:cool:
 

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There were many statements made by 3P whilst they were in election mode which gave them momentum. The dire state of the Club's finances and the queue of sponsors that would not come on board until we had a Denisecotomy. Yes, to a lesser extent the TAB and the restructuring of the layout of the club.

I would think that even the most ardent of 3P supporters would now concede that the club is, and always was, traveling just fine and that the queue of sponsors was nothing but election puffery ?

Election puffery Gronk? I look forward to jamming that down your throat later down the track.
 

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Looks like the same thing the current board in terms of club issues, the League club Bulletin.



Oh I have spotted a few having some down time now and then, but hey they are entitled to that.



Indeed you have, well actually I have seen yourself with Ray and Brett from the FC board, but as Ray has public stated on the channel 9's Footy Show, he doesn't care about the Leagues club so you couldn't bring up the issue with him, and I have seen Roy and John around, I have also seen Lyn about, but it looks like Lyn is a little broken at the moment.

However one of the major complaints I had heard in regards to the previous board, was its lack of communication and actually going out and speaking to the people where they were, Alan Overton aside who has been on this or any other incarnation of the Parramatta forums since before I meet him in 1998 and has more often that not been seen at almost every major Eels fan orginised get together in one way or another for a very long time. Around 1998 we had the person in charge of public relations at the football office on a forum with a separate thread that she would come in an answer questions posted about the Club in all its aspects. Maybe the Current Board, along with acting CEO Trulio could appoint someone like that to discuss issues with the leagues club, in a separate thread, if the good will of the folks at LU was forthcoming.

Now I wont pretend that I am completely happy with results post elections yet. As I have said to those close to me, I am not. I still have some nagging issues, but as I do with coaches I am happy enough to give the new boards and Mr Osbourne whom I have yet to meet, a year and a half to resolve them. Indeed I am sure all LC members will be looking at the bottom line on the LC annual report for the next few years as well.

I won't doubt that there is a good feeling about the ERL side, but people I spoke with pre Eric Grothe's candidacy who work at the club, not those that are elected, told me that in terms of the football office the only side that were disappointing last year (2008) were the NRL side, which I agree with having watch all the sides last year, that trend seems to have continued on regardless, just now we are swapping the NRL side for the NYC side in terms of disappointment. It would seem one coaching appointment could have been the reason for both of these disappointments, and if that is the case, then the previous board should also share some of the credit for our current position as it was they who before any election of the candidacy of Eric Grothe, announced the signing of Daniel Anderson, who I am sure you will agree with me seems to have taken over the reigns of the NRL side and bought a sense of Pride, and in hearing Daniel speak, accountability within the Top 25, including some of the Boys in the Toyota cup and Wentworthville.

The signing of Paul Osbourne is a great stroke of luck and a change for the positive at our club, yet I am still yet to have his position clarified, is he the CEO of the Football Club, or the Football Office. As was 3P's promise the CEO positions of Football Club and Leagues Club were split, so I would doubt he would be CEO of the Leagues club, which leads to another important question, who is the CEO of the Leagues club, are we actively looking for one? or it is going to be Trulio? Indeed these questions are quite prevalent to the question raised about the TAB, as it could well be the CEO of the Leagues club who appoints his internal staff to do the investigations for the TAB or other betting agency.

In regards to the signing of Osbourne, I can say that last August I wrote up some notes for an F7's article about what Parramatta fans wanted, unfortunately the article was not finished as other issue arose but so far he and the new board have ticked all the boxes apart from the sponsorship ones but the new boards and CEO's have all off season to get them nailed down and hopefully report the order value of such sponsorships to the membership, but I would say to take full responsibility for the side fortunes since the Ticket came to power is a little naive. People on the staff at the club have always said to me that they had no major problems with the previous board and the CEO, so would the change of have caused the turn around in our of field fortunes, as much as the change of coach and the player finally getting on board with what the coach wanted? A well known former coach said of Rugby League sides late last year that "It takes a good coach 18 months to build a side and a bad coach 18 months to destroy one". In that regard, I would think Daniel Anderson is doing exceptionally well and the generally positive press around the club since Osbourne's arrival is also helping, a reason many, myself included wanted to see the role of League Club CEO and Football Club CEO split or the Head of the Football office used like Mr Osbourne is now as the main face of our club to the Media as the man in charge of the club.

Mark, indeed Daniels appointment was a great signing, and yes he has made a great difference to the side. The only downfall he had was the appointment was not finalised until December because of Mick Hagans resignation, but yes Denis and the previous board deserve the cudos for Daniels signing. I will not make comment on staff in either club as I do not believe I have the capacity to make such comment, or the right. Tullio is caretaker CEO of the Leagues Club at this stage and I would dare say a candidate for the position, but I am of the belief that investigations are still underway, and a decision will not be made on appointing a CEO after they are completed. Paul Osbourne is CEO of everything football in this club, and his appointment was no stroke of luck, he is wonderful asset for this club and a massive draw card for our future. Mark your comment about not being satisfied at this stage? things take time for change to occur, and certain areas have
"sea anchors" hanging off them. Communication is paramount and once things are settled that will be addressed through forums such as this, and with a major input from a panel consisting of supporters and members. The previous board, as the current board, all have a genuine love and passion for this club, but it was 3P's opinion that the club needed a change of direction, nothing more. As for your comment about the change of fortunes since the new board, of course there is a change of culture and feeling throughout the club creating a change of fortune, and if there was'nt, Daniel, Paul and the board would not be doing their jobs, would they Mark. I think I have covered what you have put forward Mark, but if not post it and I will have a look tomorrow........talk soon Sevens.
 
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Hey Sevens, can you get 3P (or whoever) to get rid of that Maxie Bowen idiot that does the ground announcing? That should have been one of your election promises, I swear.
 
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Hi Holly,

are you talking about the Guy Who Calls the Team before Kick off.

Yeah. The guy who can't even pronounce half the names properly. The guy who thinks revving up the crowd consists of telling each side to wave their flags. The guy who isn't even a bloody Parra supporter (from what I've heard).
 

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