3rd ODI: Australia vs South Africa SCG 23rd Jan 2009

[hineyrulz]

Victoriania. On par with Taswegia for dumbsh*ts and mutants.

Glow in the dark mutants sums them up nicely.......

 

[Bazal]

And the other four aren't, my point is that if domestic runs don't count for Victorians they don't count for him... Also not to mention the fact that he can take all the time he likes in a test match to make 50 runs.

So it's just your victim complex? Fair enough, you have nothing of value to contribute here...

 

[hineyrulz]

And the other four aren't, my point is that if domestic runs don't count for Victorians they don't count for him... Also not to mention the fact that he can take all the time he likes in a test match to make 50 runs.
And its all a moot point anyway he went out for 10.

So unless a player doesn't score runs in the greatest most amazingly important tourney KFC's big beat off it means nothing :lol: Scoring runs for your Country means f**k all for Victorians........

 

[pnub]

So it's just your victim complex? Fair enough, you have nothing of value to contribute here...

I know this is a hard thing for you to understand... But the simple fact is it can't be the stance one day that domestic stats don't matter and then you use them the next day like they do matter...
Either they always matter or they always don't its not exactly a hard concept to get....

 

[TheParraboy]

269 is a good score for the SCG. The wicket tends to slow down when the lights come on.

Agree

We have enough runs

Australia by 35

 

[pnub]

So unless a player doesn't score runs in the greatest most amazingly important tourney KFC's big beat off it means nothing :lol: Scoring runs for your Country means f**k all for Victorians........

Domestic runs we were told yesterday mean nothing... So why does the fact that Johnson has 4 50's today mean something???? Either i was right yesterday that they mean something and all the people who said they didn't were wrong or today they mean nothing... Its not rocket science you can't deny something one day and then say its right the next

 

[Evolution]

Stop talking sense Baz, they just can't comprehend it. But if you type in Baaaaaalllllllllll !!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazy:

What stats mean something when they are not showing that Haddin with his 4 50's in 32 innings.

Lucky for Australia he is picked on his keeping ability not his run scoring.:sarcasm:

Compared to Hussey who has 3 in 7 innings.

He is crap I tells you.

Ignore the stats that you don't like and cling to the ones that you can find to back up your clouded views.

Also Test match scores do not translate to One day games. Sorry nothing alike. Which shows why Braken while a great one day bowler is a bad test one.

 

[Bazal]

I know this is a hard thing for you to understand... But the simple fact is it can't be the stance one day that domestic stats don't matter and then you use them the next day like they do matter...
Either they always matter or they always don't its not exactly a hard concept to get....

On the contrary...I think you're the one lacking the ability understand that Test match stats differ from domestic stats. Also, please find and quote the posts where I have rubbished the use of domestic stats

 

[hineyrulz]

I know this is a hard thing for you to understand... But the simple fact is it can't be the stance one day that domestic stats don't matter and then you use them the next day like they do matter...
Either they always matter or they always don't its not exactly a hard concept to get....

He has hit 2 50's for Austrlalia in TEST cricket, averaged 30 in 12 months of cricket for Australia. But these figures don't count because he didn't get them in the KFC big beat off :lol: As mentioned scoring runs for your country do not count for Victorians because they haven't had anyone do that consistantly since Deano :lol::lol:

 

[Dutchy]

Braken while a great one day bowler is a bad test one.

LOL

LOL

Still one of the best 4-day bowlers in the country.

 

[hineyrulz]

Domestic runs we were told yesterday mean nothing... So why does the fact that Johnson has 4 50's today mean something???? Either i was right yesterday that they mean something and all the people who said they didn't were wrong or today they mean nothing... Its not rocket science you can't deny something one day and then say its right the next

So you can talk about his 4 FC 50's but you won't mention his 2 test 50's. FMD hopefully for your sake you are taking the piss..........

 

[Bazal]

What stats mean something when they are not showing that Haddin with his 4 50's in 32 innings.

Lucky for Australia he is picked on his keeping ability not his run scoring.:sarcasm:

Compared to Hussey who has 3 in 7 innings.

He is crap I tells you.

Ignore the good ones and Keep the bad.

Also Test match scores do not translate to One day games. Sorry nothing alike. Which shows why Braken while a great one day bowler is a bad test one.

You're a lunatic....let's see...

1)Who is better than Haddin at this point in time? And, if Hussey is being defended in other threads for batting relatively poorly because he's out of position, why is it not ok for a number 4 to have the same problems at 6 or 7?

2)Should a player, like Hussey, batting down the order with 10-15 overs remaining, not look to hit boundaries? Is it then fair to criticise the player for not doing so?

3)If a player can bat with proper technique, strokeplaying, placement and temperament as Johnson can, how can these basics not translate to other forms of cricket?

 

[pnub]

On the contrary...I think you're the one lacking the ability understand that Test match stats differ from domestic stats. Also, please find and quote the posts where I have rubbished the use of domestic stats

As i said earlier i'll give you the 2 50's in test matches but like i said then they are under different circumstances to one dayers... And like i pointed out before as well its all a moot point as he went out for 10.

I will give you the fact that you didn't rubbish domestic stats but they were rubbished by others yesterday in the thread about McCullum. So i have painted you unfairly with that brush, but i was using it to go with my points yesterday about the domestic stats.

 

[Evolution]

So unless a player doesn't score runs in the greatest most amazingly important tourney KFC's big beat off it means nothing :lol: Scoring runs for your Country means f**k all for Victorians........

You do realize they are different forms of the game right? and can not be used as a way of saying they will perform in the other version.

Maybe we should bring Warner into the Test side despite never playing a first class game becuase he scored a bag in a T20 and a ODI.

Who needs to see him actually play a game that goes more than 50 overs as I am sure it will all be the same in the end and he will adapt easily enough.

 

[pnub]

And the other four aren't, my point is that if domestic runs don't count for Victorians they don't count for him... Also not to mention the fact that he can take all the time he likes in a test match to make 50 runs.
And its all a moot point anyway he went out for 10.

So you can talk about his 4 FC 50's but you won't mention his 2 test 50's. FMD hopefully for your sake you are taking the piss..........

Notice the first part there the other 4 aren't.... So that is conceeding the point that 2 were in tests matches but the other 4 aren't which is what i was refering to.

 

[Bazal]

As i said earlier i'll give you the 2 50's in test matches but like i said then they are under different circumstances to one dayers... And like i pointed out before as well its all a moot point as he went out for 10.

The issue isn't his score, but his ability. Surely a guy with the technique and temperament to score 2 50's in the toughest form of the game can be relied on to at least score some runs in a support role in an ODI? Given another poster defended Hussey's attitude as him defending the tail, I think it's rather relevant personally...

 

[hineyrulz]

You do realize they are different forms of the game right? and can not be used as a way of saying they will perform in the other version.

Maybe we should bring Warner into the Test side despite never playing a first class game becuase he scored a bag in a T20 and a ODI.

Who needs to see him actually play a game that goes more than 50 overs as I am sure it will all be the same in the end and he will adapt easily enough.

Who said Warner for the test side??? Talk about drawing a long bow. Steady Eddie poked fun at Jonhsons batting and laughed at least he got more than average. As anyone knows batting down the order in Odi's lower order batsman never get the chance to show what they can really do.

Baz pointed out how good Jonhson can bat and said he has 6 FC 50's to prove it and youse had a cry over he can't use FC stats totally overlooking his 2 test 50's. If Johson didn't have to go the tonk straight away because of the slow batting of Hopes and Hussey he could have easily scored runs for us down the order.........

 

[pnub]

The issue isn't his score, but his ability. Surely a guy with the technique and temperament to score 2 50's in the toughest form of the game can be relied on to at least score some runs in a support role in an ODI? Given another poster defended Hussey's attitude as him defending the tail, I think it's rather relevant personally...

The big worry was leaving him in with 15 overs to go and the fact that everyone after him is quite average with the bat... Could he have lasted that long maybe, but what happens if either him or hussy or hopes went out quickly, it would have left them in all kinds of trouble like the end of the innings today.

 

[Bazal]

The big worry was leaving him in with 15 overs to go and the fact that everyone after him is quite average with the bat... Could he have lasted that long maybe, but what happens if either him or hussy or hopes went out quickly, it would have left them in all kinds of trouble like the end of the innings today.

And as I pointed out, that's a fine attitude before the 38th-40th over...but surely after that you attack the bowling? Especially with 5 wickets in hand and Johnson and Hauritz to come...

 

[Evolution]

The issue isn't his score, but his ability. Surely a guy with the technique and temperament to score 2 50's in the toughest form of the game can be relied on to at least score some runs in a support role in an ODI? Given another poster defended Hussey's attitude as him defending the tail, I think it's rather relevant personally...

Yet with all that talent and ability he has managed get a high score of 27 in 25 innings in a ODI game.

Really transferable.

I was defending Husseys ability to keep on playing even though Hopes was up the other end. Trying to go the slog when you see little of the ball will lead to getting chucking away his wicket.

Oh yes the response will be he chucked it away anyway but the fact is the ball should have been called a no ball for being above waist height. I suppose it going on to hit the wicket blinded the umpire to that little fact.

It does not make it a legal ball.