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3rd Test: Australia v New Zealand at Adelaide on Nov 27-Dec 1, 2015

JJ

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Each to their own - Starc is being a douche imo, but it's up to the ICC to determine whether it's appropriate. This NZ team doesn't do it, but previous NZ teams (notably Fleming's) were as aggressive as any - although, the aggressive end off is just a bit lame really... Haddin et al in the World Cup were just embarrassing, and Starc's heading that way too. This NZ team behaves well, that doesn't mean the opposition has to, but it does highlight it when they don't

All irrelevant, Day 1 in this series has just been an embarrassment for us - Starc's dickhead behaviour has nothing to do with that. McCullum's been piss poor in all respects, that will burn him I think
 

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I'd love Starc to come in to my office to tell some of the Kiwis where to go, esp when the All Blacks are playing.


Why would he do that?

Would love to play against some of you lot in sport, you would all crumble like mummies boys cause of some words and then declare you want to fight after the game :lol::lol:

Congrats to Santner to just walk off without blinking an eyelid at the sledge. That's the way to work us over. Starc can dish it out, he will cop it back, wont be having a cry like some of you lol
 

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Each to their own - Starc is being a douche imo, but it's up to the ICC to determine whether it's appropriate. This NZ team doesn't do it, but previous NZ teams (notably Fleming's) were as aggressive as any - although, the aggressive end off is just a bit lame really... Haddin et al in the World Cup were just embarrassing, and Starc's heading that way too. This NZ team behaves well, that doesn't mean the opposition has to, but it does highlight it when they don't

All irrelevant, Day 1 in this series has just been an embarrassment for us - Starc's dickhead behaviour has nothing to do with that. McCullum's been piss poor in all respects, that will burn him I think

Weird boult and snouthee just couldnt blast through smiths inferior technique last nighf when the ball was moving.

Actually in all seriousness southees first spell to smith was ths mosf enjoyable cricket ive seen this summer. It was a good old fashioned battle between a batsman who doesnt want to get out and a bowler getting fhe ball to move.

As for starc i hate send offs they are pointless because the batsman is either walking off with a score and the bowler looks like a goose or having failed and thats unnecessary. That said even i would have asked santner if he wax aware of the rules of the game he took so long to walk off
 

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Actually in all seriousness southees first spell to smith was ths mosf enjoyable cricket ive seen this summer. It was a good old fashioned battle between a batsman who doesnt want to get out and a bowler getting fhe ball to move.

As for starc i hate send offs they are pointless because the batsman is either walking off with a score and the bowler looks like a goose or having failed and thats unnecessary. That said even i would have asked santner if he wax aware of the rules of the game he took so long to walk off

Smith's a good player - doesn't change that some flaws were exposed in England - he'll learn from that of course, just as Williamson did from the first time he toured Aust

Southee and Boult are the real deal - unfortunately Boult's not been right - but in conditions offering a little in terms of movement or swing, they're as good as anyone...

Just wish we could put together a reasonable first day, you jump on us, and we're battling to save each test - we'll fight back, but well behind now

Guptill is a nice guy, but FFS when will they see what's patently obvious - he can flay ordinary bowling on flat decks - but he's not close to a test batsman... another picked on ODI form, even his ODI record is inflated by beating up on cripples
 

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Santner should of been charge with loitering he took so long to leave.

I sadly remember quite well when you are bowled neck and crop I couldn't wait to get out of there lol.
 

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Funny how the Kiwis used to sledge as much as we do but now that big Macs boys have decided not to, all of a sudden they are all holier than thou and its bad joojoo to sledge.

Easy to see where all the sheep references come from. Lets all just follow our gracious leader, lol.

Anyway, back to the cricket.

If I hear Chapelli talk about Ashley Mallett bowling his offies on the SACA, I'm turning the volume off. I switched over to the ABC radio yesterday and he was on there as well talking about the same thing. My god he is repetitive.
 

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As for starc i hate send offs they are pointless because the batsman is either walking off with a score and the bowler looks like a goose or having failed and thats unnecessary. That said even i would have asked santner if he wax aware of the rules of the game he took so long to walk off

I reckon Starc asked him to review it, just to be sure :)
 

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Send offs are not sledging... and I said Fleming's team sledged

Send offs are just pathetic - and watching again the claims Santner did something wrong are pathetic - he played his shot held the pose briefly, looked back and then started walking

Starc has rapidly become a dickhead
 

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Starc gone with a stress fracture is a big blow and very frustrating.

Do the CA medicos work at the Panthers too?
 
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At least the Karma police will be happy with Starc being injured.

"That's what you get for being mean for the poor kiwi batsman"
 

JJ

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Nobody wants to see injuries - but if you're looking for reasons I'd start with the pitches dished up for this test series
 

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Well in my humble opinion its these f**king pitches

Firstly we have the hardest pitches in the word, f**king highways where bowlers have to bowl 30 overs a day, whereas in other countries they bowl 30 overs an innings on softer pitches

We are the most injured bowlers in the world and everyone in our team, Haze, Starc, Pattinson, Cummins et al have all had extended injury periods unlike most other international teams. Stress fractures and back problems are rampant with our young bowlers.

I have no doubt its our hard pitches and very heavy bowling loads that cause the problems.
 

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They knew Starc was going to go down. It was irresponsible by cricket Australia. They were just hoping he'd last until march.

The pitches don't help and I'm sure the flat pitches for the Indian series finished off Harris
 

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Well in my humble opinion its these f**king pitches

Firstly we have the hardest pitches in the word, f**king highways where bowlers have to bowl 30 overs a day, whereas in other countries they bowl 30 overs an innings on softer pitches

We are the most injured bowlers in the world and everyone in our team, Haze, Starc, Pattinson, Cummins et al have all had extended injury periods unlike most other international teams. Stress fractures and back problems are rampant with our young bowlers.

I have no doubt its our hard pitches and very heavy bowling loads that cause the problems.

Still too much gym fitness, not enough bowling fitness IMO.
 

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Starc bowls a lot to be fair. I'd say he is comfortably the most bowled Australian bowler since he got back in the test side.
 

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He does and I don't recall him having major back issues like the others. But you see guys like Dennis Lillee come out and say these guys are doing too many weight, and it makes sense. Bulk up too much, you're pushing a lot more weight through the crease without necessarily having the core strength to deal with that. Bowling is already a horrible thing to do to your body really.

I mean it might be totally off base, but look at the build of Lillee, Hadlee, McGrath, Lee, Donald, etc as compared to a Pattinson or a Johnson.
 

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Lillee was a big man, and had a lot of injury problems

Hadlee, Donald, McGrath leaner - always played with injuries, but don't recall too many big ones ,at least not stress fractures in the back - that said, Boult's fairly lean and just had one - bowling fast isn't a natural thing to do
 

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Starc isn't huge anyway. It's just a thing that happened. His foot was f**ked since the ashes and he got bowled into the ground at the waca. I think cricket Australia were geniused not to send him straight home after Trent bridge for surgery but here we are.

Just on the game I wonder what bmacs reasoning for bowling santner so much was. Sure an over or two to see if Smith fancied going aggressive at him but when it was clear Smith wasn't interested in anything but lasting to stumps should have been straight back with Boult and southee
 

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