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3rd Test: India v Australia at Mohali (Punjab) Mar 14-18, 2013

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CA is making massive $$ from playing India,in one format or another,basically every 18 months..

You would think they would invest some of that money into installing decks that mimic Indian pitches,& put them in Far NQ,NT & North Western Australia..places that would have the heat & humidity resembling what they would experience over there..

Then in preparation for test series there,play Shield games on those grounds..

Maybe even have each state play one Shield game per year on one of those decks..

It would encourage the state sides to nurture spinners & give them a deck they can prosper on,& give our batsmen more experience at the same time..

Spot on.

There was a time when we were innovators, and this should be thought through.

I don't know why U21's for Australia aren't packed off to India in their teens for stints to learn to play on spinning tracks, even off to England too.

Considering India and England are the two prime series, along with South Africa.

It's embarrassing to see batsmen so bloody clueless.
 

beads6

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Khawaja likely to be on for Hughes they reckon. Good call. Wouldn't mind SMith in for Watson as well.
 

Horrie Is God

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http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/phil-hughes-could-be-dropped-from-the-australian-test-side-and-replaced-by-queensland-batsman-usman-khawaja/story-fndpt0dy-1226591890638

Phil Hughes could be dropped from the Australian Test side and replaced by Queensland batsman Usman Khawaja..

Peter Badel in Hyderabad News Limited newspapers March 06, 2013 7:39PM

STRUGGLING Phil Hughes could be days away from a devastating third Test axing as Australian selectors consider resurrecting the international career of Queensland left-hander Usman Khawaja.

Australia coach Mickey Arthur has all but conceded there must be at least one batting casualty following the shambolic collapse that led to their innings defeat against India in Hyderabad.

News Limited understands out-of-sorts Shane Watson will be given a stay of execution for the third Test, which begins in Mohali next Thursday.

But Hughes appears to be in the firing line following skipper Michael Clarke's decision to promote himself up the order to stabilise a teetering top-order.

That brings Khawaja into the frame. The Bulls star is the shadow batsman on this tour and Arthur says the selection panel _ comprising himself, Clarke and Rod Marsh _ must now seriously look at a shake-up of the batting order.

"Usman Khawaja and Steve Smith have got to come into the reckoning at some stage," Arthur said.

"When we have more of the same, it will probably give us the same result.

“We’d be silly if we didn’t think about them. Whether they both play, whether one plays, whether none plays I’m not 100 per cent sure, but they’ve got to come very much into our thinking.

"Until the guys learn the harsh lessons of getting out and possibly losing their place because of it, they're not going to realise it."

By virtue of his experience, Watson has more credit points than Hughes, who has 25 runs at 6.25 on this tour and is clearly struggling to find strategies to combat spin on Indian soil.

Arthur today challenged Watson to step-up at a Test batsman, a sentiment that ostensibly suggests the all-rounder will get another chance to atone in Mohali.

The plausible scenario is that Watson will replace Hughes at first drop, with Clarke moving up to No.4 and Khawaja to slot in at five ahead of Matt Wade and Moises Henriques.

Khawaja's average of 29.22 from six Tests is mediocre, but he has had a solid summer in Queensland, scoring 438 first-class runs at 39.81.

Smith, meanwhile, has been good with the bat for NSW, hitting 363 first-class runs at 40.33.

The likely dumping of Hughes would be a crushing blow for the 24-year-old, who was first axed during the 2009 Ashes and again in 2011 after a horror series against New Zealand.

But Arthur says there can be no room for sympathy votes as the tourists search for the best six batsmen to restore credibility.

"The biggest concern is the inability of the top order to get a big first innings score," he said.

"We are certainly going to have to have a look at what is our best top-six combination to, A, put pressure on India and, B, give us the runs that we need that have been lacking in the first two Test matches."

Of Clarke's elevation, Arthur said: It has to happen and Michael and I have been discussing it often. He likes batting five but when it starts impacting on our first innings and he starts running out of partners, then we thought it was time for us to have a look at it."
 

BunniesMan

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The team will be a lot closer to the XI I outlined than whatever rubbish the daily telecrap came up with.
 

AlwaysGreen

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I feel for HAH. Yes, he's about as comfortable against spin as bunniesman in a whorehouse but he's been made the scapegoat. Both Watson and HAH should go but Watson again gets off scott free for repeated inept performers. He's had more than enough chances and is still a failure.
 

Timbo

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I would sack Hughes, Watson and Maxwell for Khawaja, Smith and Lyon.
 

Earl

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For some reason selectors are always hesitant to make mass changes to a batting line-up but replacing 3 bowlers in one go is acceptable.

Hughes, Watson & Cowan (in that order imo) probably all should be axed but I don't think we'll see more than 1 player dropped if any.
 

Xfactor1979

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Clarke is considering batting first drop, which means Australia will have their best bat at better number 3

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-06/arthur-suggests-clarke-bat-at-first-drop/4557304?section=sport

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...ali/story-fn2mcu3x-1226591651175#.UTclgBxHKSo

Oh and Bunniesman, this is my gesture to you, son ->

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Horrie Is God

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Phil's in a spin: W..W.......................W........W

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/damien-fleming-says-phil-hughes-should-be-dropped-for-australias-third-test-against-india-in-mohali/story-fn2mcu3x-1226591651175#.UTcs0Na8Vog

Damien Fleming says Phil Hughes should be dropped for Australia's third Test against India in Mohali..

By Antony Pinshaw, Cricket Editor FOX SPORTS March 06, 2013 3:30PM

Phillip Hughes should be axed for the third Test after a horror run saw him dismissed four times in 37 balls without scoring a run against India's spinners.

That's the verdict of Fox Sports commentator Damien Fleming, who, despite being a big fan of Hughes, says he can’t see how the South Australia batsman can stay in the XI for the Mohali Test. .

Australia's batting lineup as a whole has come under immense pressure following their capitulation against India in Hyderabad, but Hughes in particular has looked the most likely fall-guy after returns of 6, 0, 19 and 0 in the series so far.

Having returned after seemingly conquering his flaws against short-pitched pace bowling, India's tweakers have now exposed a new chink in the 24-year-old's armour.

"He wouldn’t be playing in the last two Tests in my team. Hughes has to go," Fleming told foxsports.com.au.

"If you look at the stats, he’s lost his wicket four times to spin in his last 39 balls faced, and hasn’t scored a run in that time.

"It’s time for him to have a rest and if he gets the opportunity to play against spin again, he’s got to have a plan like Matthew Hayden did. I’m sure a young Matthew Hayden would have struggled in Indian conditions, but he knew it was a deficiency and worked on it."

Dropping Hughes would leave a two-horse race between Usman Khawaja and Steve Smith to get the call-up, with Fleming suggesting Smith could be a surprise selection.

The former Test paceman did have words of encouragement for Hughes, saying he should still be right in the reckoning to return to the side for the Ashes tour.

As for the rest of Australia’s batsmen, Fleming didn’t hand out too many compliments.

"I’m not really sure about our batsmen’s plans against spin," Fleming said.

"We underachieved by about 250 runs with the bat, and that meant Australia were always behind the eight-ball.

"Lots of questions have been asked about the bowlers, but I think the bigger problem is the batting. There’s just no scoreboard pressure."

Fleming was particularly disappointed with the recent trend of using Matthew Wade at No.6, noting that even the greatest wicketkeeper-batsman of all time, Adam Gilchrist, very rarely batted that high in the order.

When it comes to the bowlers, Fleming is adamant one man must come into the side.

"All along I would have liked Mitch Johnson to have played," he said.

"His record in Test cricket in India is good, and his record in one-day cricket there is outstanding.

"Traditionally Mohali hasn’t been as dominated by spin as the first two venues (Chennai and Hyderabad), so unless they get to Mohali and it looks like the last two pitches, I’d be bringing him in."

As has often been the case in years gone by, Australia’s ability both with and against spin has been found wanting.

Fleming believes the answer lies as much with administrators as it does with the players.

"Superman had his kryptonite, but obviously spin is our kryptonite, both bowling it and batting against it," Fleming said.

"Really, we don’t get a lot of practice (with spin) playing in Australian conditions.

"It also says to me that we really should have fought to have three four-day games leading into the Test matches, with every player getting two games.

"I don’t like our scheduling, I don’t think it’s given us the best chance to prepare well.”

It may sound simplistic, but it could be said one of the few positives to come out of the Hyderabad loss is that the only way is up.

"You’d imagine things couldn’t get worse, so hopefully the Aussies can put it behind them."
 

Mr Spock!

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CA is making massive $$ from playing India,in one format or another,basically every 18 months..

You would think they would invest some of that money into installing decks that mimic Indian pitches,& put them in Far NQ,NT & North Western Australia..places that would have the heat & humidity resembling what they would experience over there..

Then in preparation for test series there,play Shield games on those grounds..

Maybe even have each state play one Shield game per year on one of those decks..

It would encourage the state sides to nurture spinners & give them a deck they can prosper on,& give our batsmen more experience at the same time..

That's ridiculous Horrie.

I mean come on.

The best warm up for a test series in the subcontinent is 20-20 hit and giggle on roads.

Just ask Cricket Australia.
 

Twizzle

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Mickey Arthur is talking up Oozie and Smith's chances of playing in the 3rd test on Fox.
 

BunniesMan

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Stay calm everybody. England struggling in NZ. Compared to that we shouldn't be embarassed about losing to India in India.

Hope is not lost for the Ashes.
 

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