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3rd Test: India v South Africa at Nagpur, Nov 25-29, 2015

ANTiLAG

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Nah, you haven't been watching (remember England?)

Our bats actually have some technique

Yups. Warner out - all out. But still - Warner could nevertheless be a match winner but better odds for Kane, Latham, Ross and Watling. Also, Pattinson and Starc are too fast to catch nicks on a skiddy swinging greenie, the slips would be too far back to take catches, or move closer to the stumps and drop them and injure themselves. Boult and Southee would just be bowling that beautful hoop with Kane and Craig taking amazing catches at 2nd slip and gully.
 
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Rabbits20

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All I can say is these test pitches are ridiculous in India.

Two and a half day tests just isn't good enough when you have high quality teams.

India have obviously made these stupid pitches just to favour them as all they do is spin so much and it's pretty much unplayable for RSA.
 

Bazal

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If you work hard enough you'll score runs. Half the batsmen threw their wickets away.

They can't trust the pitch. It's day two. Some threw it away, but on a wicket like this there's an element of "well, what the f**k can it hurt...?" about batting. It's a bullshit pitch, plain and simple.

India will win by 200 inside 3 days and pat themselves on the back all round, but it's really an affront to test cricket IMO
 

JJ

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We tend to do well across the ditch, also in South Africa.

I've seen nothing to change that

You've only been playing us since the 70's - back then you had good techniques

In recent times, our wickets have been deliberately changed to be more like yours, and your batsmen/coaches have decided technique is irrelevant... if we had some traditional seaming wickets, I back us

32/2 Jaapies need some AB and Amla magic - seems pretty unlikely though
 

Twizzle

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You've only been playing us since the 70's - back then you had good techniques

In recent times, our wickets have been deliberately changed to be more like yours, and your batsmen/coaches have decided technique is irrelevant... if we had some traditional seaming wickets, I back us

32/2 Jaapies need some AB and Amla magic - seems pretty unlikely though

:lol:

of course you have a source for this ??
 

Twizzle

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already have them, thanks for offering

now, back to your allegation of what the coaches have decided about our batting technique,

do you have anything to back that up ?

any quotes will do
 

Bazal

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I can't think of a batsman in the current side who has a poor technique....Smith is ungainly but it works for him. Technique is the single most overrated thing in cricket, there is no such thing as one good technique. Sure, there are technical things that all good batsmen do but even then no two players do them in exactly the same way.
 

Pete Cash

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Bradman had an unorthodox technique and he is the greatest batsman ever. Ian Bell has a great technique but has been a disappointment largely.
 

JJ

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people are confusing technique with looking good - Border was technically pretty conventional, so too Steve Waugh

Things like playing late under the eyes, bat close to pad - Chris Martin seemed to be the role model for Australian efforts in the Ashes... all well and good on roads

Anyway, on topic - de Villiers is the best player in the world by a country mile, chance for him to do something very special
 

Red Bear

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A lot of it is about when you meet the ball. Steve Smith is jumpy, moves around a lot, but is in a good position when the ball gets to him. Likewise Chanderpaul, the mother of unorthodox techniques, was in a good spot when he met the ball.

Finding what a player is comfortable with is pretty important, then working with that to cut down on any weaknesses such a technique may expose.
 

Pete Cash

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people are confusing technique with looking good - Border was technically pretty conventional, so too Steve Waugh

Things like playing late under the eyes, bat close to pad - Chris Martin seemed to be the role model for Australian efforts in the Ashes... all well and good on roads

Anyway, on topic - de Villiers is the best player in the world by a country mile, chance for him to do something very special

Yes but Bradman the greatest batsman ever had an unorthodox technique. Australian coaches try not to mess with a technique unless it's dangerous or its got gaping weaknesses if that's what you mean ? They don't coach kids to bat badly.
 

JJ

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For sure, but the free techniques have been exposed in moving conditions, and it's prevalent everywhere with the importance of 20:20 and the plethora of artificial and drop in or flat pitches

Many international batsmen's games seem to be developed in limited overs cricket and then applied to test cricket - which is well and good in flat conditions. What I love about Williamson is his game is the reverse - designed for tests, and applied elsewhere.
 

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