3rd Test: South Africa v Australia at Newlands, Capetown, March 22-26, 2018

[blaza88z]

Is that the full extent of the action the ICC will take?

I don't know, can they punish on the admission of Smith in the presser?

Bancroft has been charged for sure

 

[TheFrog]

So no bet?

Not a betting man, but Rabada did all right at the appeal hearing.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Yep....international players being disciplined by different standards....

but if it's two seperate and independent bodies doing the discipline then how is it a double standard?

You may not like it, you may not think it's fair, and that's fine, but it is in no way a double standard.

 

[Mr Spock!]

South Africa didn't have a meltdown but I doubt Cricket is their national sport too

I live near a local cricket club, you go down there on a Saturday and every one of the 12 fields has a game going on between juniors, CA has to take a stance on this to send a clear and loud message to parents and even young kids that cheating is just simply not on, the half assed penalty handed by the ICC is not enough, as an Aussie who grew up watching and playing the game I have never felt more embarrassed to be a fan of Australian cricket.. so much so that I would be happy to accept mediocre performances for the next few years if it meant we removed the right of those responsible from representing Australia, the game is bigger than individuals

Steve Smith went from potentially becoming one of our all time great batsmen to nothing more than a cheat, seeing him in the field makes me feel sick. I look at Pakistan cricket and their infamous match-fixing and I never imagined I would ever look at an Australian player and feel the same as I do about Pakistan players, I still can't believe it.. I thought April Fool's day had come a week earlier

Yep...and I watched the underarm incident and still cheered Chappell through the rest of his career.

You get over it dude.

It's just cricket.

And yeah everyone's doing it.

 

[Mr Spock!]

but if it's two seperate and independent bodies doing the discipline then how is it a double standard?

You may not like it, you may not think it's fair, and that's fine, but it is in no way a double standard.

One standard for one and another standard for another ergo double standard....

 

[TheFrog]

but it is in no way a double standard.

Sounds like double jeopardy though.

 

[Hutty1986]

Starcy will be pleased about all this hullabaloo, he has been turd for the past two tests

 

[Mr Angry]

Not a betting man, but Rabada did all right at the appeal hearing.

So you do not understand the Rabada was the ICC, Smith being stood down has nothing to do with them and was done by CA.

Bancroft has been penalised by the ICC, Smith has not, well not yet.

CA will not re-instate Smith now that they have taken it from him. This has zero to do with the ICC.

 

[blaza88z]

Well done Nathan Lyon, too bad the achievement won't get the recognition it deserves, this game feels like a non-event

 

[Hutty1986]

South Africa didn't have a meltdown but I doubt Cricket is their national sport too

I live near a local cricket club, you go down there on a Saturday and every one of the 12 fields has a game going on between juniors, CA has to take a stance on this to send a clear and loud message to parents and even young kids that cheating is just simply not on, the half assed penalty handed by the ICC is not enough, as an Aussie who grew up watching and playing the game I have never felt more embarrassed to be a fan of Australian cricket.. so much so that I would be happy to accept mediocre performances for the next few years if it meant we removed the right of those responsible from representing Australia, the game is bigger than individuals

Steve Smith went from potentially becoming one of our all time great batsmen to nothing more than a cheat, seeing him in the field makes me feel sick. I look at Pakistan cricket and their infamous match-fixing and I never imagined I would ever look at an Australian player and feel the same as I do about Pakistan players, I still can't believe it.. I thought April Fool's day had come a week earlier

That's a bit much isn't it?

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

One standard for one and another standard for another ergo double standard....

In order for it to be a double standard the two standards have to come from the same body/person/entity. Otherwise it's just two varying standards from two independent bodies.

You keep fighting the good fight, but you're wrong, and that's not an opinion, it's just basic English language.

 

[The Vaulting Violinist]

Smith is a disgusting piece of shit. f**k off

 

[blaza88z]

That's a bit much isn't it?

Perhaps it is, I just don't think taking away the captaincy will be enough to send the message required to see to it that it never happens again, I will be very interested to see what CA does given the backlash from the public

 

[axl rose]

How is it any different to a bowler being warned for running down the middle fo the wicket to scruff it up?

 

[TheFrog]

In order for it to be a double standard the two standards have to come from the same body/person/entity. Otherwise it's just two varying standards from two independent bodies.

You keep fighting the good fight, but you're wrong, and that's not an opinion, it's just basic English language.

Du Plessis was not suspended by the ICC for ball tampering. If Smith is suspended for ball tampering it will be a double standard.

 

[Hutty1986]

Perhaps it is, I just don't think taking away the captaincy will be enough to send the message required to see to it that it never happens again, I will be very interested to see what CA does given the backlash from the public

What do you honestly think he'll cop?

 

[blaza88z]

What do you honestly think he'll cop?

I think they'll suspend him for a period of time and then give him the opportunity to make his way back into the team and earn back some of the respect which he lost, I don't think he will ever be captain again

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Du Plessis was not suspended by the ICC for ball tampering. If Smith is suspended for ball tampering it will be a double standard.

Disagree.

If you want to break it down to a single category of simply calling it "ball tampering" then sure you can argue that. However, there's a reason why most indiscretions (both in sport and in real life) have varying degrees of severity. This situation is not identical to what Smith/Bancroft did, and that's why broader categories have varying degrees.

in any case, at the moment the ICC has done nothing so it is yet to even enter the realm of double standard. Right now all the action is coming from CA and the pressure is coming from the Australian public/former players independent of the ICC. We'll get a clearer picture when the match is over and the match referee goes through the proper channels.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

I think they'll suspend him for a period of time and then give him the opportunity to make his way back into the team and earn back some of the respect which he lost, I don't think he will ever be captain again

This is the most likely outcome. He won't play in the next test, and then Australia have quite a gap until their next test series. Missing ODI's is no biggie. He'll be back in the team for the Australian summer, but agree he'll never be captain again.

 

[stryker]

Yep...and I watched the underarm incident and still cheered Chappell through the rest of his career.

You get over it dude.

It's just cricket.

And yeah everyone's doing it.

You are a god damned moron. Grow the hell up.