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4th Ashes Test, Boxing Day @ the MCG

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Anderson in doubt

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/22/3098892.htm


Anderson in doubt for Boxing Day

England's chances of securing the Ashes in the Boxing Day Test have taken a hit with the news that James Anderson is carrying a side injury.

England coach Andy Flower confirmed his most experienced seamer had pulled up stiff following Australia's series-levelling win in the third Test in Perth.

With the series locked at 1-1, England needs only to avoid defeat in the final two Tests to retain the Ashes after winning last year's series.

With Stuart Broad out of the tour with injury and young quick Steve Finn looking fatigued during the WACA Test, Anderson's withdrawal would cause a further shake-up of the touring side's attack.

Anderson bowled well in the opening two Tests in Brisbane and Adelaide before his form dipped in Perth after flying home to England for the birth of his second child.

Flower thought that Anderson would be OK for the MCG match but side injuries are notoriously troublesome to shake off for quicks in a short period of time.

"A five-Test series is hard, physically and emotionally," Flower told the British press.

"For the fast bowlers even more so because we don't have an all-rounder and are sticking with our four-bowler attack.

"Anderson's feeling stiff in his side but the indications are he should be fine for Melbourne.

"Finn's handled himself very well for a 21-year-old in his first Ashes series. But a lot of the players will feel the effects three Tests into a five-match series.

"We have a few days off to rest and recuperate and we'll make decisions then."

All-rounder Tim Bresnan or quick Ajmal Shahzad would come into the England side for their Ashes debut if Anderson was ruled out.

A packed MCG would be a daunting stage for Bresnan or Shahzad to make their maiden Test appearance against Australia, the right-armers only having played five and one Test respectively.
There had been speculation about Finn's place in the England side despite him being the leading wicket-taker in the series with 14 scalps.

The concerns in the English camp had surrounded his fitness and leaking of runs with 4.3 runs an over coming off his bowling.

But if Anderson were to sit out the match in Melbourne, it is unlikely England would be keen to completely replace its three-man pace attack from the opening Test.
 

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Finn is the English version of Johnson, bowls trash and goes for runs but gets the wickets.
 

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don't think that was his rep though, maybe just the extra bounce has led to him bowling to short?

Be interesting to see what Johnson does now - was the inswing just the product of the stars aligning, and the sacrifice of a goat at midnight?
 

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don't think that was his rep though, maybe just the extra bounce has led to him bowling to short?

Be interesting to see what Johnson does now - was the inswing just the product of the stars aligning, and the sacrifice of a goat at midnight?
Apparently the Breeze at the WACA was perfect for his inswinger, so who knows what he will offer on Boxing day??? I doubt they will go with 4 quicks on a drop in wicket.
 

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Apparently the Breeze at the WACA was perfect for his inswinger, so who knows what he will offer on Boxing day??? I doubt they will go with 4 quicks on a drop in wicket.

Depends on how much faith they have in Smith's bowling???

I can't see any sensible reason to select Beer (apart from his name), let alone play him...
 

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Depends on how much faith they have in Smith's bowling???

I can't see any sensible reason to select Beer (apart from his name), let alone play him...
I still reckon they got him mixed up with a drinks order :crazy:
 

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Smith isn't a specialist spinner, so I guess we'll go with the other non specialist, in Beer
 

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don't think that was his rep though, maybe just the extra bounce has led to him bowling to short?

Be interesting to see what Johnson does now - was the inswing just the product of the stars aligning, and the sacrifice of a goat at midnight?
I'm sure more goats can be found if that's all that's required. Star alignment is a little more difficult to organise.
 

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I'm sure more goats can be found if that's all that's required. Star alignment is a little more difficult to organise.


It will be fascinating to watch - if he can get that late swing in to righties regulalry, he'll be a difficult customer...

TBH I think the Poms were shocked, and took a while to adjust - I don't think they believed he could do it twice
 

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It will be fascinating to watch - if he can get that late swing in to righties regulalry, he'll be a difficult customer...

TBH I think the Poms were shocked, and took a while to adjust - I don't think they believed he could do it twice

I was shocked. I didn't think he could do it once. As I said at the time that was one of the best spells of left arm quick bowling ever. Any batsman is going to struggle with that. Because it's always pitching in line and swinging down the line any miss and you're dead. Very different from say a Right armer bowling innies. Add the problem that any ball that doesn't swing is likely to pick up an edge and it's most right handed batsmen's worst nightmare.

But now the big test. Is this the new improved Mitchell 2.0, or was it a flukey once off (or at least desperately rare occurence)? We saw after the first innings in Brisbane that Siddle couldn't back up what was really quite simple stuff - bowl full and straight and allow the ball to do enough in the air and off the pitch to get wickets. What Johnson was doing in Perth was much tougher as has been noted he was generating inswing with a scrambled seam. The fuller, straighter and quicker bits should be repeatable, but he doesn't have a great track record at it. Bowling late dipping innies with a scrambled seam... well I hope he can repeat it, but I won't be stunned if he doesn't.

I really want to like Mitchell Johnson because what he contributed in Perth was top shelf, but I've seen too much utter crap from him to be getting excited yet.
 

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Even if there is not much swing around if Mitch has his action right he will be a much better bowler and continue to take wickets IMO.
 

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I agree

I'd be very surprised if Notch could ever bowl that well again.

Not many quicks ever bowl that well all the time, Notch has done it a few times now though. If he keeps his action right he will be alot better than he has been though.
 

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I was shocked. I didn't think he could do it once. As I said at the time that was one of the best spells of left arm quick bowling ever. Any batsman is going to struggle with that. Because it's always pitching in line and swinging down the line any miss and you're dead. Very different from say a Right armer bowling innies. Add the problem that any ball that doesn't swing is likely to pick up an edge and it's most right handed batsmen's worst nightmare.

But now the big test. Is this the new improved Mitchell 2.0, or was it a flukey once off (or at least desperately rare occurence)? We saw after the first innings in Brisbane that Siddle couldn't back up what was really quite simple stuff - bowl full and straight and allow the ball to do enough in the air and off the pitch to get wickets. What Johnson was doing in Perth was much tougher as has been noted he was generating inswing with a scrambled seam. The fuller, straighter and quicker bits should be repeatable, but he doesn't have a great track record at it. Bowling late dipping innies with a scrambled seam... well I hope he can repeat it, but I won't be stunned if he doesn't.

I really want to like Mitchell Johnson because what he contributed in Perth was top shelf, but I've seen too much utter crap from him to be getting excited yet.

i think the new Johnson is going to be with us for a while. I was shocked by how much better he's bowling and he won't lose the plot overnight.

Is Beer not a specialist spinner? I know he hasn't played a lot but i thought he was.
 

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i think the new Johnson is going to be with us for a while. I was shocked by how much better he's bowling and he won't lose the plot overnight.

Is Beer not a specialist spinner? I know he hasn't played a lot but i thought he was.

Not convinced about Johnson at all... it is all about the late swing, and there's too much wrong with his action for him to do that reliably...

Even if his line and length improves, if batsmen are disciplined he's not a worry, because it's generally gun-barrell straight... time will tell though

Beer :lol: even funnier than Doherty, who was funnier than Hauritz... I think your selectors have simply given up, and are just going with the spinner with the coolest name
 
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