4th ODI: Australia v India at Adelaide Feb 12, 2012

[typicalfan]

Bevan against the Windies was the best he played but Hussey can do what he could and has bailed us out many times but he can also play the big shots, their averages are pretty comparable. Huss in that T20 semi final was epic and there are plenty of ODIs that are the same. Bevan was the scoreboard master, perfect at doing just enough every time.

Huss though is a class above in the field, great catcher and a strong arm. Bevan had a fairly weak arm and was an average fielder.

 

[aussies1st]

Hussey is the one rested, Hilfy sent back to Hobart. So Forrest to debut.

 

[Horrie Is God]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/young-gun-mitch-marsh-gets-the-call-up-to-12-man-australia-squad-to-tackle-india-at-adelaide-oval/story-fn2mcu3x-1226268484890

Young gun Mitch Marsh gets the call-up to 12-man Australia squad to tackle India at Adelaide Oval..

By staff writers FOX SPORTS February 11, 2012 2:10PM

Back...Mitch Marsh returns to the Australia squad for Sunday's ODI in Adelaide. Source: Alf Sorbello / PerthNow


Youngster Mitch Marsh is in with a shot of adding to his one one-day international for Australia after he was called into the 12-man squad preparing to face India in Adelaide on Sunday.

Marsh made his ODI debut for Australia in a 93-run win over South Africa in Centurion last October.

He made an unbeaten eight runs from five balls and picked up the wicket of Hashim Amla.

Australia will rest veteran batsman Mike Hussey from Sunday's clash at the Adelaide Oval.

Like Hussey, paceman Ben Hilfenhaus will not travel with the squad as Australia seek to continue their unbeaten start to the tournament.

Uncapped batsman Peter Forrest has again been named after missing out on selection for Friday night's win over Sri Lanka.

The decision to keep him with the squad and not playing this week's Sheffield Shield clash for Queensland was labelled "bizarre" by cricket writer Malcolm Conn.



Squad: Michael Clarke (captain), Dan Christian, Xavier Doherty, Peter Forrest, Ryan Harris, David Hussey, Mitchell Marsh, Clint McKay, Ricky Ponting, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade, David Warner

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Bevan against the Windies was the best he played but Hussey can do what he could and has bailed us out many times but he can also play the big shots, their averages are pretty comparable. Huss in that T20 semi final was epic and there are plenty of ODIs that are the same. Bevan was the scoreboard master, perfect at doing just enough every time.

Huss though is a class above in the field, great catcher and a strong arm. Bevan had a fairly weak arm and was an average fielder.

smh

Unbelievable comment.

 

[Rod]

Coming from a Kiwi, you'd have to have Bevan over Hussey. God he was a prick against us.

 

[typicalfan]

smh

Unbelievable comment.

Why?

 

[Horrie Is God]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/current/story/552875.html

Australia v India, CB Series, Adelaide

Clarke aims to keep hold over India..

The Preview by Brydon Coverdale
February 11, 2012

Match facts
February 12, Adelaide
Start time 1350 (0320 GMT)

Big Picture
The triangular series roadshow rolls into Adelaide on Sunday, when Australia and India meet for the second time. Already Australia have jumped clear on top of the table thanks to victories in their first two games, while India are on the board having beaten Sri Lanka in Perth. Not that either team was that convincing against Sri Lanka at the WACA; Australia's batsmen struggled and India made hard work of a chase that should not have been too tricky. Adelaide Oval should provide the bats men with more comfort.

Xavier Doherty has become an important player in Australia's one-day side, according to the captain Michael Clarke © Getty Image


Australia have taken the opportunity to rest Michael Hussey, which should mean Peter Forrest will makes his debut at a venue he has enjoyed, at least in the longer format - he has two first-class centuries and an average of 65.14 at Adelaide Oval. Mitchell Marsh could provide some excitement if he is included. The captain Michael Clarke said after Friday's victory that while it was hard to change a winning side, it was also important to give opportunities to players, so Marsh and Forrest will both be firmly in the mix.

India are still searching for their first win over a Clarke-led side on this tour, their only victory over Australia having come in a Twenty20. The short turnaround for the hosts, who were due to arrive in Adelaide the night before the game, could work in India's favour.

Form guide
Australia WWWLW (Most recent first)
India WLWWL

In the spotlight
The WACA is not known as a spinner's pitch but Xavier Doherty certainly enjoyed bowling there on Friday night. He turned the ball, at times immensely, and picked up 2 for 24 from his ten overs. "He was outstanding once again," Michael Clarke said after the game. "He continues to be a very good consistent performer for us. He can bowl in the Powerplay, he's spinning the ball, I think he's an important player for us and he's continuing to do a good job."

Like Doherty, R Ashwin enjoyed bowling at the WACA against Sri Lanka, where he took 3 for 32. Adelaide Oval should also offer some assistance for the slow bowlers, although they must be careful not to drop short, given the small boundaries square of the wicket.

Team news
Australia will rest Michael Hussey, who was to remain in Perth, and Ben Hilfenhaus has also been released from the squad. Mitchell Marsh will join the group after playing in Western Australia's Sheffield Shield match during the week, although it's unlikely he and Daniel Christian will both play. Hussey's absence means Peter Forrest is almost a certainty to make his debut.

Australia (possible) 1 David Warner, 2 Matthew Wade (wk), 3 Ricky Ponting, 4 Michael Clarke (capt), 5 David Hussey, 6 Peter Forrest, 7 Daniel Christian/Mitchell Marsh, 8 Ryan Harris, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Xavier Doherty, 11 Clint McKay.

India's rotation policy has meant changes in the top order, but a team spokesman said the policy was not rigid and the primary aim was to qualify for the finals. That could mean an unchanged outfit after their success against Sri Lanka.

India (possible) 1 Virender Sehwag, 2 Sachin Tendulkar, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Rohit Sharma, 5 Suresh Raina, 6 MS Dhoni (capt, wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Vinay Kumar, 10 Praveen Kumar, 11 Zaheer Khan.

Pitch and conditions
The Adelaide Oval surface is always good for batting. That said, Victoria batted first in a Ryobi Cup match there last week and were bowled out for 123. The forecast for Sunday is for a partly cloudy day with a top of 26C.

Stats and trivia
Australia and India have met in four ODIs at Adelaide Oval, all of which have been won by Australia
Australia's attack is so inexperienced at this level that their leading ODI wicket-taker is Michael Clarke with 53

Quotes
"The feeling in the group is really good. We're showing that we know how to win games of cricket, which is good and means guys are confident."
Michael Clarke

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo.

 

[aussies1st]

If Forrest is at 6 we are in trouble. He'll be on a hiding to nothing if his record is anything to go by.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Why?

To belittle the man who saved our arse countless times coming in at 4 for f**k all by saying he was merely a scoreboard player who did his job and nothing more is incomprehensible coming from you. An idiot like BunniesMan I would expect to read that but you're on point more often than not.

Bevan had the big shot in him but his true class was the rotation of the strike, keeping the score ticking over with 1's and 2's and building for the last 10 overs. Keep in mind the mind set of the times in the 90's and early 2000's was that 4 an over was a good rate until the end. I sat in the ladies stand the day he ended Justin Ontong and put multiple pies up in to our section and he could take an attack apart if he decided.

I'll take it further and say he was a better first class bat than Hussey as well except that Bevan was wrongly identified as struggling with the short ball despite his efforts on the WACA against Walsh, Ambrose and Bishop on a cracked pitch.

 

[beads6]

Forrest should come in at 5 at the lowest IMO. 4 is his spot TBH.

 

[hineyrulz]

To belittle the man who saved our arse countless times coming in at 4 for f**k all by saying he was merely a scoreboard player who did his job and nothing more is incomprehensible coming from you. An idiot like BunniesMan I would expect to read that but you're on point more often than not.

Bevan had the big shot in him but his true class was the rotation of the strike, keeping the score ticking over with 1's and 2's and building for the last 10 overs. Keep in mind the mind set of the times in the 90's and early 2000's was that 4 an over was a good rate until the end. I sat in the ladies stand the day he ended Justin Ontong and put multiple pies up in to our section and he could take an attack apart if he decided.

I'll take it further and say he was a better first class bat than Hussey as well except that Bevan was wrongly identified as struggling with the short ball despite his efforts on the WACA against Walsh, Ambrose and Bishop on a cracked pitch.

Agreed, Bevan>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussey. In test matches Bevan was given less than 20 games to prove his worth and dropped and never to play again at age 27 :crazy:

 

[snoozer]

ian chappell had it out for bevan big time.

he started the whole 'not good against short bowling' thing.

 

[TheParraboy]

Id have Bevan over Hussey in ODI as well.... just. Plus agree Bevan probably should have played regular test cricket a bit more, instead of a stop start career. Absolutely killed it in FC cricket. Was a damm handy slow bowler as well (granted we had Warne) took 26 test wickets at around the same average.

 

[TheParraboy]

ian chappell had it out for bevan big time.

he started the whole 'not good against short bowling' thing.

the old fart still has it out for Tugger :crazy: and Beefy Botham :lol:

 

[aussies1st]

Bevan is more reliable in the collapses, Hussey is better with the boundary hitting. Hard to pick between them, probably if you are batting first you would go Hussey, chasing you would go Bevan. Both would be in our best ODI side, very few batsmen average over 50 in ODIs.

 

[beads6]

I'd pick Hussey without doubt. He can hit as well.

 

[TheParraboy]

Bevan is more reliable in the collapses, Hussey is better with the boundary hitting. Hard to pick between them, probably if you are batting first you would go Hussey, chasing you would go Bevan. Both would be in our best ODI side, very few batsmen average over 50 in ODIs.

Good summation, Bevan by a whisker for me, but both would easily occupy 5 and 6 in our best of side I would imagine for ODI

 

[typicalfan]

To belittle the man who saved our arse countless times coming in at 4 for f**k all by saying he was merely a scoreboard player who did his job and nothing more is incomprehensible coming from you. An idiot like BunniesMan I would expect to read that but you're on point more often than not.

Bevan had the big shot in him but his true class was the rotation of the strike, keeping the score ticking over with 1's and 2's and building for the last 10 overs. Keep in mind the mind set of the times in the 90's and early 2000's was that 4 an over was a good rate until the end. I sat in the ladies stand the day he ended Justin Ontong and put multiple pies up in to our section and he could take an attack apart if he decided.

I'll take it further and say he was a better first class bat than Hussey as well except that Bevan was wrongly identified as struggling with the short ball despite his efforts on the WACA against Walsh, Ambrose and Bishop on a cracked pitch.

Belittle? He is exactly as I said he was, he adjusted his tempo based on the scoreboard and what runs were required. He also looked after the tail and he read the field brilliantly but doing what was required was his best asset. So essentially he did what he had to do but was brilliant at it.

He had the big shot in him but it wasn't his strength. Bevan was a better FC batsman? probably but Hussey took his opportunity he averaged in the 80s for many years when he first came onto the scene, probably proof again he should have been selected earlier. If Huss played in the 2005 Ashes we wouldn't have lost.

Bevan might have been wrongly identified as struggling against the short ball but Hussey was far better with the short ball, the pull shot is probably his trademark shot.

 

[Horrie Is God]

Some of the Indian perspective..


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/india-in-australia/top-stories/No-rotation-just-take-it-easy-policy/articleshow/11853935.cms

No rotation, just take-it-easy policy!..

Vinay Nayudu, TNN | Feb 12, 2012, 12.26AM IST

ADELAIDE: Is there a rotation policy in place at all for India's top order batsmen? Or is it just a game of musical chairs played on a whim, with no well-thought-out policy in place?

The idea, disclosed by Indian captain MS Dhoni following the opening game against Australia in Melbourne, does not seem to have any takers anymore, with India likely to play the same XI on Sunday.

Ravichandran Ashwin, who addressed the media before the game, was evasive on the subject and it was left to the team manager to point out that the policy was "not rigid", leading to more confusion.

"We would look to rotate the openers so that the youngsters (in the middle-order) can get a chance play," is what Dhoni had said. Virender Sehwag sat out the first game, and then before the next encounter at Perth the opener told the media that as part of the policy he would be back against the Lankans.

"Either Sachin (Tendulkar) or Gautam (Gambhir) will sit out so that I can come in and play," was how Sehwag put it. So out went Gambhir and in came Sehwag to join Tendulkar at the top of the batting order. The next player to sit out, going by this logic, would have been Sachin Tendulkar for Sunday's game against Australia.

When Ashwin was sent out to address the media, he was asked if he had the mandate to talk about the rotation policy. A miffed Ashwin blurted out that he didn't, saying, "I'm not willing to talk about it (rotation policy) because there is no point in asking me about it. If you have to ask about this, then you will have to ask the captain. How do I know about the selection policy?"

Things began to heat up before team manager GS Walia stepped in to sort things out. "What this team wishes is to first qualify for the finals. These (rotation) policies are made on tour for a specific purpose but it is not a rigid policy that we have to follow. The Indian team has always been announced on the morning of a match. There is no rigidity about rotating players. The team has to focus on making the finals first," he stressed.

Walia's views mirrored that of some leading experts and the mixed messages from the team only added to the confusion. In a matter of two games the rotational policy seems to have gone out of the window. It has now become a take-it-easy policy. What makes matters worse is that the BCCI has sent two selectors - Surendra Bhave and Raja Venkat - but they are not core members of the team management that decides on the playing XI.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/india-in-australia/top-stories/Unchanged-Team-India-likely-for-clash-against-Australia/articleshow/11853773.cms

Unchanged Team India likely for clash against Australia..

Vinay Nayudu, TNN | Feb 12, 2012, 12.07AM IST

ADELAIDE: The last time India stepped out to play at the Adelaide Oval, their worst fears of a Test whitewash came true. This time around they return in a much better frame of mind and appear keen to take on the Aussies in their third tri-series clash on Sunday.

A win against Sri Lanka in the second game has provided the team with some much-needed confidence, and now India also have the cushion of being placed second on the points table following Lanka's loss to Australia at the WACA.

Australia, with two consecutive wins, lead the pack with nine points. India have three to Lanka's none.

Even though they came off winners, Australia's batting was made to look circumspect by the tidy Lankan bowlers, and this is something the Indian attack too will wish to emulate. A two-and-a-half hour session at the nets saw the players sweat it out before R Ashwin mentioned the team had watched the Australia-Lanka game keenly.

"It was a pretty good game with a tight finish," said the spinner, who was Man of the Match for his 3-32 and unbeaten 30 in India's last game. Commenting on some of India's strategies, Ashwin said, "If you have wickets in hand, you can make use of the batting Powerplay better in the 35-to-40-over bracket. With two new balls being used, it's crucial to keep wickets intact."

There has been a lot of talk about the rotation policy in place for the top order but come Sunday, India seem set to open again with Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag, meaning Gautam Gambhir sits out. Tendulkar will get another chance to play at Don Bradman's home ground and a sell-out crowd is expected.

Medium-pacer R Vinay Kumar, who impressed at the WACA on Wednesday, is nursing a stiff neck but should be available for selection. He bowled for a while at nets before being joined by the physio. Also available is young leg-spinner Rahul Sharma, who has recovered from the split webbing he suffered in the opening game against Australia in Melbourne.

The Indians are most likely to field the same eleven that took the field against Lanka in Perth. The Aussies, meanwhile, are likely to pitch in either Peter Forrest (from Queensland) or Mitchell Marsh (Western Australia) to fill in the place left vacant by Michael Hussey. Forrest and Marsh came in for Hussey and paceman Ben Hilfenhaus in the squad.

 

[TheParraboy]

Belittle? He is exactly as I said he was, he adjusted his tempo based on the scoreboard and what runs were required. He also looked after the tail and he read the field brilliantly but doing what was required was his best asset. So essentially he did what he had to do but was brilliant at it.

He had the big shot in him but it wasn't his strength. Bevan was a better FC batsman? probably but Hussey took his opportunity he averaged in the 80s for many years when he first came onto the scene, probably proof again he should have been selected earlier. If Huss played in the 2005 Ashes we wouldn't have lost.

Bevan might have been wrongly identified as struggling against the short ball but Hussey was far better with the short ball, the pull shot is probably his trademark shot.

Agree 100% with what i highlighted, he was a gun batsman then, even on the tour , was about the only bloke makiing big runs at almost every chance he got, in ODIs and the FC games prior to the test matches, but didnt even get one test :x