50 Cent

[NPK]

Imagine 50 cent rapping a variation of Candy Shop?

"I'll take you to the coffee shop
Here's the menu, what have they got
oooooh cappuccino with froth on top
I'll have a latte that'll hit the spot"

Such wholesome lyrics.

 

[NPK]

Another thing..they brag about committing crimes..why don't the cops investigate them (if they haven't already)..and if there are no crimes, are they lying about being criminals? Would they do that?

 

[Eelementary]

Exactly.....what is it with these tools. Why do all thier film clips have a bunch of girls wearing skimmpy little outfits in them if the songs are about how hard it was growing up in the Hood. These guy's aren't Gangsters...maybe petty criminals & drug dealers but Gangsters...hahahahaha...give me a break.

No - they claim they're 'GANGSTAS', and in 50 Cent's case it's fair enough I suppose...

People have beef with modern day hip-hop/rap stars using ho's in their clips, etc. ... How is that any different from the olden day rockers who would openly admit to doing hard drugs?

Ozzie Osbourne is a classic example.

Dancing with skimpily-clad women and portraying a certain message about women is bad - don't get me wrong. But only fools would think that pimp-slapping a woman and then spitting on here and calling her a ho is a way to treat a woman...

Surely?

 

[Eelementary]

Another thing..they brag about committing crimes..why don't the cops investigate them (if they haven't already)..and if there are no crimes, are they lying about being criminals? Would they do that?

Well I think it's more complex that that...

(1) They are SAYING they committed crimes (in many cases it's true, but just because they SAY it doesn't mean the cops can investigate);

(2) They committed these crimes USUALLY before they made it big in music, so it's an issue of the past;

(3) A lot of these crimes are committed in the ghetto, where cops don't want to investigate at the best of times...

 

[Godz Illa]

Another thing..they brag about committing crimes..why don't the cops investigate them (if they haven't already)..and if there are no crimes, are they lying about being criminals? Would they do that?

Come on man, it's just imagery and storytelling. Johnny Cash "bragged" about killing a man just to watch him die, I don't think gangsta rap is far removed from that tbh.

btw Loved the rap lol. You've got some skills, we should do a collaboration set. Fo real.

 

[Dr Crane]

But only fools would think that pimp-slapping a woman and then spitting on here and calling her a ho is a way to treat a woman...

Surely?

And yet it happens.

 

[carcharias]

My friends 9 year old son loves him...he is very impressed with how many times 50c has been shot.

Great role model.

personally .. lifes too short to waste any time listening to some sepo crapping on about how great he is.

 

[Eelementary]

Man I'm impressed he managed to survive being shot 9 times. Few people can say they've survived 9 consecutive bullets...

As for the whole women problem...If you're going to seriously tell me that 50 Cent and gangsta rap in general are the reasons behind imbeciles mistreating woman, then I'm afraid you have lost me...

In fact, my uncle is an ex-police sergeant and he's told me many times - the most common occurrences of domestic violence occur in affluent areas, usually by white males (in Australia) who are more likely to listen to rock and/or pop music than gangsta rap, judging by their lifestyle...

I've heard many songs people may call 'satanist' and many extremely violent and disgusting songs - difference is I don't go around killing chickens, drinking their urine and then raping women and killing them to boot. Because I'm smart enough to know.

Seems to me that modern-day society is lazy, and finds it all too easy simply to put the blame on guys like 50 Cent for the rapid degradation of society instead of focusing on the actual problems:

(1) poor parenting; and

(2) poor education.

But it is so much easier to lay the blame on 'the scourge of society', gangsta rappers...

 

[HevyDevy]

Yeah but he's still sh*t

 

[Samwise]

Yeah but he's still sh*t

can't argue with that

 

[jeffrosaint]

Man I'm impressed he managed to survive being shot 9 times. Few people can say they've survived 9 consecutive bullets...

As for the whole women problem...If you're going to seriously tell me that 50 Cent and gangsta rap in general are the reasons behind imbeciles mistreating woman, then I'm afraid you have lost me...

In fact, my uncle is an ex-police sergeant and he's told me many times - the most common occurrences of domestic violence occur in affluent areas, usually by white males (in Australia) who are more likely to listen to rock and/or pop music than gangsta rap, judging by their lifestyle...

I've heard many songs people may call 'satanist' and many extremely violent and disgusting songs - difference is I don't go around killing chickens, drinking their urine and then raping women and killing them to boot. Because I'm smart enough to know.


Seems to me that modern-day society is lazy, and finds it all too easy simply to put the blame on guys like 50 Cent for the rapid degradation of society instead of focusing on the actual problems:

(1) poor parenting; and

(2) poor education.

But it is so much easier to lay the blame on 'the scourge of society', gangsta rappers...

That is the biggest load of sh*te I have ever seen on this forum. I doubt your uncle told you this but if he did he is talking out of his arse.

"Aboriginal people are approximately 45 times more likely to be a victim of domestic violence than non-Aboriginal people. Overall Aboriginal victims sustain more serious injuries from reported incidents of domestic violence than non-Aboriginal victims."

 

[shadow grinder]

Another thing..they brag about committing crimes..why don't the cops investigate them (if they haven't already)..and if there are no crimes, are they lying about being criminals? Would they do that?

ofcourse they are lying...they are just dumb merkins you inhaled to much sh*t and f**ked their brain up.

i saw a clip and some article the other day about "game" the ex meber of the androtop unit....he went to "fiddys" house and stole his basketball ring....then acted like a big tough gangster....

 

[Eelementary]

That is the biggest load of sh*te I have ever seen on this forum. I doubt your uncle told you this but if he did he is talking out of his arse.

"Aboriginal people are approximately 45 times more likely to be a victim of domestic violence than non-Aboriginal people. Overall Aboriginal victims sustain more serious injuries from reported incidents of domestic violence than non-Aboriginal victims."

True.

What I meant to say was that the incidents of domestic violence do not mimic the typecast of the music itself - ghettos and that. Affluent societies, which predominantly don't listen to gangsta rap, and very poor societies which can't listen to the radio, suffer numerous incidents of domestic violence.

In an area filled with upper middle-class citizens, there will be less rap listeners (on average) than a lower middle-class area, and yet the incidents do not reflect this.

I was trying to point out that listening to 'bad music' doesn't equate to turning people into 'bad people'.

 

[Roy]

we wouldn't ask why a rose that grew from the concrete for having damaged petals, in turn, we would all celebrate its tenacity, we would all love its will to reach the sun, well, we are the roses, this is the concrete and these are my damaged petals, dont ask me why, thank god, and ask me how”

tupac shakur

 

[Eelementary]

we wouldn't ask why a rose that grew from the concrete for having damaged petals, in turn, we would all celebrate its tenacity, we would all love its will to reach the sun, well, we are the roses, this is the concrete and these are my damaged petals, dont ask me why, thank god, and ask me how”

tupac shakur

That's a great quote.

I guess people just get annoyed at the way some of those guys portray themselves to their fans...

 

[Roy]

agreed

 

[Manurewa_Marlins]

I love hip hop. I eat, sleep and breath the stuff. DJ Premier said in a great interview with Kiwi DJ, Sirvere, that "the crap thats on the radio right now, that aint hip hop".

Anyone who knows anything about the music now known as hip hop, knows that it was born out of the grimy, gritty, innercity slums of America. Much like Reggae, it was a way for people to speak their minds, and rise up against the odds.

Originally, the music was ignored by major record companies, but it continued to steam forward on the back of independant releases. SOme of the dopest artists ever came from an era when hip hop was not economically viable. KRS One, Rakim, Public Enemy, Kool Moe Dee all are examples of these sorts of artists.

Nowadays, the record companies have stripped bare all credibility hip hop has, much like they did with rock n roll, with soul and with contemporary pop music. However, hip hop has a very strong independant/underground scene, where a number of artists have managed to rise up and become successful without selling out to the Majors. Babygrande Records is an example of a modern independant record label who have been successful with its releases.

On the subject of "hoes in videos", "bling", "alcahol", "drugs" etc, Its always been in hip hop. KRS One and Scot Le Rock (aka Boogie Down Productions) are seen on their album cover for "Criminal Minded" draped in gold chains clutching weapons and the lead single was "We Are The Super Hoe" where they talked about making big money and getting females. Immortal Technique recently said "I love the underground but not enough bitches in thongs/What the f**k? How can beautiful women be wrong?".

I love sexy women. I love money. I've been high. I've been in fights. I've called a woman a b*tch before. We all swear. Whats wrong when rappers do it? They arent role models. If you arent big enough to tell your kids that music is like film, purely entertainment, then its not hip hop that has a problem, its your parenting skills.

50 Cent is wack. Don't listen to him at all, I really mean what I';m saying here.

 

[Eelementary]

I love hip hop. I eat, sleep and breath the stuff. DJ Premier said in a great interview with Kiwi DJ, Sirvere, that "the crap thats on the radio right now, that aint hip hop".

Anyone who knows anything about the music now known as hip hop, knows that it was born out of the grimy, gritty, innercity slums of America. Much like Reggae, it was a way for people to speak their minds, and rise up against the odds.

Originally, the music was ignored by major record companies, but it continued to steam forward on the back of independant releases. SOme of the dopest artists ever came from an era when hip hop was not economically viable. KRS One, Rakim, Public Enemy, Kool Moe Dee all are examples of these sorts of artists.

Nowadays, the record companies have stripped bare all credibility hip hop has, much like they did with rock n roll, with soul and with contemporary pop music. However, hip hop has a very strong independant/underground scene, where a number of artists have managed to rise up and become successful without selling out to the Majors. Babygrande Records is an example of a modern independant record label who have been successful with its releases.

On the subject of "hoes in videos", "bling", "alcahol", "drugs" etc, Its always been in hip hop. KRS One and Scot Le Rock (aka Boogie Down Productions) are seen on their album cover for "Criminal Minded" draped in gold chains clutching weapons and the lead single was "We Are The Super Hoe" where they talked about making big money and getting females. Immortal Technique recently said "I love the underground but not enough bitches in thongs/What the f**k? How can beautiful women be wrong?".

I love sexy women. I love money. I've been high. I've been in fights. I've called a woman a b*tch before. We all swear. Whats wrong when rappers do it? They arent role models. If you arent big enough to tell your kids that music is like film, purely entertainment, then its not hip hop that has a problem, its your parenting skills.

50 Cent is wack. Don't listen to him at all, I really mean what I';m saying here.

I agree with everything you said (except the last part - if people like to listen to 50 Cent then so be it).

I will say, though - I went to X-Zibit's concert and 50 Cent's concert. X's concert had a maximum of I'd say 100 people at the show, whereas 50 Cent sold out the place.

The atmosphere at Fiddy's concert was amazing - but it was not as good as X-Zibit's concert (and that's desptie even the fact some idiot threw a full bottle of water at X-Zibit's head and he nearly walked off the stage 2 minutes into his gig).

 

[LESStar58]

There's plenty of decent Hip Hop still around, outside what the radio chooses to play.

Ken oath! its a pity most of it goes unnoticed...

As for Fitty, yeah good on him for coming off the streets and gettin himself outta sh*t that was either gonna put him in jail or end up killing him. Rap was his outlet and he made something of it.....mofos still wanna kill him but.

yeah, can't say I'm a fan of his music.

 

[LESStar58]

Much like Reggae, it was a way for people to speak their minds, and rise up against the odds.

MM is right...

However my opinion is if it wasn't for reggae there'd be no rap or hip hop. Obviously theres comparissons between South Central Los Angeles and the slums of Kingston Jamaica in terms of social problems and that leads to artists wanting to get away from drugs, gangs etc turning to music.

Dancehall reggae started when local MCs would get on the mic and rhyme to the music that was being played. They spoke whatever was on their mind. Or if a nice girl walked past the "deejay" would say something to her, or he'd talk about issues in the neighbourhood. Reggae has more impact on rap, and popular music in general, than many of us care to recognise.

In turn, a lot of the hip hop culture is coming through in the current reggae market. Guys like beanie Man etc are all about bling and such these days as well.