5th Test: Austalia vs England at SCG Jan 3-7 2011

[El Diablo]

they can't review no balls they did call

 

[HevyDevy]

The next step will be umpires refusing to make lbw decisions and just sending all of them upstairs.

 

[Hallatia]

I'm just against umpires being able to review their own decisions.

I think that seeing as the umpires are the game's referees, if anyone should be able to use technology to review decisions, it should be the umpires.

 

[beads6]

What is the forecast like for tomorrow?? I think the Aussies can take alot from today.

 

[hineyrulz]

Early wickets tomorrow and the game is even stevens, Beer looks better than i expected. But it wouldn't be hard to be more threatening than Doherty.

 

[myanonymoususername]

Beer is a pie chucker. How Hauritz isn't there is beyond me.

Because Hauritz is tried and proven mediocrity.

I thought Beer went ok.

 

[Collingwood Storm]

Beer was a lot better than I expected today... flighted the ball well, got some bounce and turned a few.

Much better than Doherty already... hopefully he gets a good long spell tomorrow as well before the 2nd new ball.

 

[HevyDevy]

Ahhh yes you've had that line drilled into you haven't you username?

In fact Hauritz has performed quite admirably DESPITE lacking the backing of Ponting and being repeatedly played on roads while being omitted on turning pitches.

He is far and away the best option atm.

 

[Gaba]

Beer has been bowling no balls close to every delivery , if the no ball rule is the same as a batsman, beer doesnt ground any part of his foot behind the line.

Beer put his foot over the line, and heel is in the air


If a batsman doesnt have any part of his body part,foot ,heel grounded behind the line he is out.


If i was a batsman and got out to beer i would go for the referral every time for a no ball

 

[Gaba]

I really don't agree with the umpires being able to do that.

If the wicket wasn't taken Bowden says nothing and it's a normal delivery.

The only query i have with bowden is why did he signal he changed his decision, he didnt make a decision .

His decision was he thought it was a no ball.

The umpire only use the change decision signal if they made a decision before changing it

 

[El Diablo]

Beer has been bowling no balls close to every delivery , if the no ball rule is the same as a batsman, beer doesnt ground any part of his foot grounded behind the line.

Beer put his foot over the line, and heel is in the air


If a batsman doesnt have any part of his body part,foot ,heel grounded behind the line he is out.


If i was a batsman and got out to beer i would go for the referral every time for a no ball

http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-24-no-ball,50,AR.html

(b) the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised

 

[Twizzle]

Beer has been bowling no balls close to every delivery , if the no ball rule is the same as a batsman, beer doesnt ground any part of his foot grounded behind the line.

Beer put his foot over the line, and heel is in the air


If a batsman doesnt have any part of his body part,foot ,heel grounded behind the line he is out.


If i was a batsman and got out to beer i would go for the referral every time for a no ball

its not quiet the same for batsmen and bowlers

if a bowler (generally a spinner) bowls off the ball of his foot and doesn't ground his heel, he has to he judged as to where his heel would have been grounded, if in fact it was, and some of teh spinners dont grond thier heel at all but that doesn't make it a no ball

its very hard for some of the umpires to judge, Hauri would not ground his heel quiet often

 

[Gaba]

http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-24-no-ball,50,AR.html

ok

 

[Gaba]

its not quiet the same for batsmen and bowlers

if a bowler (generally a spinner) bowls off the ball of his foot and doesn't ground his heel, he has to he judged as to where his heel would have been grounded, if in fact it was, and some of teh spinners dont grond thier heel at all but that doesn't make it a no ball

its very hard for some of the umpires to judge, Hauri would not ground his heel quiet often

ok then , the commentators shouldnt rave on about its the same with a batsman then, its obviously not

 

[El Diablo]

but none of beers foot was grounded behind the line , al lof his foot was grounded over the line means no ball

are you geniused

it says grounded or raised

(b) the bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised
(i) on the same side of the imaginary line joining the two middle stumps as the return crease described in (a) above
and (ii) behind the popping crease.

 

[Gaba]

are you geniused

it says grounded or raised

ok i didnt read it right why i edited my original reply

 

[Hallatia]

It's mostly just Johnson having a sook about the no-ball thing, but what a great headline

No-balls hurt Australia
Peter English at the SCG
January 4, 2011
Mitchell Johnson wants umpires to call no-balls immediately after Australia were the victims for the second consecutive Test when a front-foot decision was referred by an official. Michael Beer was celebrating Alastair Cook as his first Test wicket when Billy Bowden asked for - and then received - confirmation that the debutant spinner had over-stepped.

"If the umpires know it's a no-ball I think they should call it, instead of waiting to call it," Johnson said. Bowden had a hunch Beer had gone over but he waited for the catch to be taken at mid-on before requesting a replay.

"Everyone's going to have different opinions on it," Johnson said. "I suppose it's not a bad thing, but it can be frustrating. I suppose you've just got to get your foot behind the line."

Johnson was the one who transgressed last week when Matt Prior edged on 5 at the MCG before making the hosts pay by finishing with 85. Cook was 46 when he miscued today and was unbeaten on 61 at stumps.

It was a tough entry to the elite level for Beer, who bowled steadily during his nine overs, and his team-mates made an effort to cheer him up. What it shows is that Beer has learned one of the attack's bad habits very quickly. The Australians have always struggled with no-balls and it is common practice for them to go over the line by a long way at training.

"We always have this argument between batters and bowlers," Johnson said. "We always try to find a way to get behind the line. We all try and do it. Whether you feel enclosed with the nets being there, I don't know what it is. I still bowl half a foot over in the nets but I don't know how we're going to fix that."

James Anderson said the no-ball referrals represented "good cricket" because the right decision was made. "I think they should do it more often, I don't think they use it enough," he said. "A no-ball is a no-ball. You should get the correct decision when he's bowled one."

England's approach to over-stepping with David Saker, the bowling coach, is much more meticulous than Australia's sloppy method under Troy Cooley. "We think it's a very important part of our job to stay behind the line - even more so in one-day cricket," Anderson said."We try and practise it in the nets, and I hope we can replicate that out there."

The practice certainly seems to be working, as England have bowled just seven no-balls in the series, while Australia's tally stands at 19.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2010-11/content/story/495330.html?CMP=chrome

 

[TheParraboy]

Game on a knives edge

we will see a result

we will see a drawn series

Cheers

 

[Red Bear]

Went to the game today, sat in the upper Messenger stand, not bad, about 5 metres around from members area, and thankfully wasnt sunny or wet cos there was no roof.

Clarkes captaincy was quite good today. As I had noticed when watching him captain a t20 last year, he has a very proactive captaincy style, compared with Pontings reactive style. Set good fields today, his fields for Beer particularly impressive

Clarke wasnt helped by bowlers today, boy did we bowl sh*thouse, particularly new ball. Johnson was very quick early (went and watched a bit from behind the scoreboard in the Trumper) but didnt bowl well then, and even his second spell was average. His last spell was quite good, one of the few times I've seen him bowl good short balls, his ball to get Pieterson, whilst it was a loose shot, was excellent as it was well directed and reared up on him. The first half of the last over was great as well, but wasted that with three balls which didnt need to be played at to finish.

Siddle and Hilf were mostly trash, Siddle back to poor direction. Beer looked OK but non-threatening.

Strauss's captaincy was really poor to the tail end, was giving so many free runs to Johnson.

 

[TheParraboy]

RB did you actually get up into the victor trumper stand? (best place to watch cricket at the scg IMO)

they are $100 plus a ticket there, or was it the tier below?