A bit of fun - numerically rate the players

[mrpwnd]

Hindmarsh is far more valuable to a team doing what he has done over the past few years then if he stayed out on the left near the wing and ran into a hole once a game like a Ben Creagh or Mitch Aubusson.

You rated Tahu above Hindmarsh... no, no, wrong, bad.

I had Tahu on 0.
Do I get a pat on the head?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So does that mean you don't even attempt to rate players who aren't consistent at all?

I think you are using a narrow conception of consistency. There is consistency throughout a season, but there is also consistency throughout a career.

Mortimer's had half a rookie season and then his second season. Given the difference in quality between the two seasons I think it's premature to judge him.

How does Mateo get a 4 then?

Because he's been playing first grade since 2007. In 2008 he was massive - one of the best players in the world. Since his best season is a 5, and his worst is a 3, I give him a 4. If he was 30+ I'd say he's on the decline and give him a lower score but next year he's as likely to be a superstar as he is to be 'only' above average.

Hindmarsh is far more valuable to a team doing what he has done over the past few years then if he stayed out on the left near the wing and ran into a hole once a game like a Ben Creagh or Mitch Aubusson.

I agree.

But Hindy is also a long way from the midfield monster of '04-'07 who ran for 120 metres a game while also making 40 tackles, saving 3 tries and putting on a series of massive hits.

You rated Tahu above Hindmarsh... no, no, wrong, bad.

Like I said, I'm rating Tahu on ability, not on form. I believe Tahu will show more quality than Hindy next year, as he did this year in patches.

 

[guruminga]

I'm reserving my judgement on Morts until he's played two consistent seasons in a row. Last year and this year were very different for him, and I imagine next year will be different again.

I respect your reasoning. Hopefully next year he'll find his feet.

G

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Wow, 23 posts and no one has made any political posts. Although that comment on the coach could start something. Keep it up guys.

Just personally, I think Mannah, Mateo and Tahu have the ability to have similar impact to Hayne.

 

[dazeely]

Inu - is a 1. Can't believe you listed him above that.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Inu - is a 1. Can't believe you listed him above that.

His good games are pretty good while I agree his bad games are very poor. In my opinion he averages out to an average player overall. I think the reason he has so few good games any more is because he's lost a lot of speed. His best season was his rookie year in '07.

Here's his stats:

2007 (Played the first half of the season at centre and the second half on the wing)
17 Linebreaks
12 Tries
108 Metres/game

2008 (Played every game but one at centre)
13 Linebreaks
7 Tries
106 Metres/game

2009 (Played every game but one at centre)
7 Linebreaks
6 Tries
102 Metres/game

2010 (Played 3 games at centre and the rest on the wing)
10 Linebreaks
11 Tries
88 Metres/game

 

[Springs]

I agree.

But Hindy is also a long way from the midfield monster of '04-'07 who ran for 120 metres a game while also making 40 tackles, saving 3 tries and putting on a series of massive hits.

I disagree. His form was patchy this year (name an Eels player who wasn't), but last year he was as good as ever, and from around Round 6-20 or so he was in as good a form as I have seen. There were times when he would top the tackles, metres and offloads, save tries plus even make try assists through ballplaying. Won the Four Nations with Australia last year, made in back to the Blues this year and along with Gallen was unanimously called our best in game 2, but was dropped because of crappy selectors.
And now with the (C) next to his name, I'm sure he'll be as good as ever in 2011.

 

[Twizzle]

Wow, 23 posts and no one has made any political posts. Although that comment on the coach could start something. Keep it up guys.

Just personally, I think Mannah, Mateo and Tahu have the ability to have similar impact to Hayne.

you just did

 

[PJ Marshal]

5 - Robson

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Ok so how about we rate the other clubs? Could be interesting.

 

[Springs]

Manly= -5

 

[SeftonBoy]

1. Brendan "I'm a joke" Oake
Luke "I'll just stand here on the wing & do nothing" Burt
Jono "Can't dance can't play" Wright
2. Nathan Cayless
Krisnan Inu
Matt Keating
Kris Keating
Jeff Robson
Tom Humble
Daniel Mortimer
Joel Reddy
Shane Shackelton
3. Timmy "Bloody racists i'm not racist" Tahu
Ben Smith
Feleti Mateo
4. Nathan Hindmarsh
Fui Fui Moi Moi
Justin Poore
Tim Mannah
5. Jarryd Hayne

 

[Jason70]

Totally agree with you Sefton Boy, your controversial but a realist. If only some of the others on this forum were more fair dinkum. Especially agree with u on Luke Burt, my question is, has Luke ever been offerred a contract elsewhere. To my knowledge he hasn't, that says a lot.

You're a legend Sefton

 

[SeftonBoy]

Jordan Atkins ain't coming down to play for Wenty. He'll be in the 2 & Grothe in the 5. Luke will be in the Black & White next year. Hopefully he can get a release & join the Salford Reds or the Wakefield Wildcats.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Jordan Atkins ain't coming down to play for Wenty. He'll be in the 2 & Grothe in the 5. Luke will be in the Black & White next year. Hopefully he can get a release & join the Salford Reds or the Wakefield Wildcats.

Burt offers nothing in the go-forward department, and limited contribution in defence, but he's a great support player and in broken play, and his goal-kicking is unbelievable.

I believe he missed his first ever pressure kick this year, and I suspect his confidence is on the decline.

I'd rate him overall an average player but I won't cry if he gets dropped.

 

[SeftonBoy]

He's an imposter

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Totally agree with you Sefton Boy, your controversial but a realist. If only some of the others on this forum were more fair dinkum. Especially agree with u on Luke Burt, my question is, has Luke ever been offerred a contract elsewhere. To my knowledge he hasn't, that says a lot.

You're a legend Sefton

Yes he has.

 

[SeftonBoy]

Where at? You would have named the club if he did? The Warilla Gorilla's don't count. I think they offered him a pie & a beer a game but he knocked them because Parramatta offered him an overpaid contract. He's a Newcastle junior & they haven't offered him nothing.

 

[Eels Dude]

Burt will be in first grade next year. He's too reliable finisher. Wingers aren't expected to take hitups unless they've got the go-forward to do so like Grothe. Atkins is a fringe first grader and that's why he only got a look in at the Titans when they had injuries. I'd expect the same when hes here.

 

[SeftonBoy]

Atkins has had some injury concerns & guys like Gordon, Mead & Zillman all got the jump on him & performed very well & he couldn't get back in. All 4 of those Titans wingers are better than Burt. Burt will have to pick up the quality & quantity of his workrate then. Burt will be given first shot at it no doubt but if he performs like last year then he's gone. Parramatta didn't have any better options in 2010.

I watched the game against the TIgers this year & what they did was kick to Inu hoping that the next play would be a Burt hit up meaning a dominant tackle. Only problem was that Hayne was doing Burt's hitup & using up his petrol. Hayne needs to helped out a lot more from his wingers. Grothe provides it. He was great at the back end of 2009 coninciding with Hayne's great form.