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Amone guilty.

Slippery Morris

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The story is this, the Tradie does not know his NRL that good and saw Amone thinking he was Hamiso Tabuai-Fiddow so he calls out "Hammer". Amone gets pi$$ed and yells back, "I'll show you a hammer" and the rest is history. It was mistaken identity. OK maybe not, but the Lawyer would have had more luck with that rubbish story than what he used...
 
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Sentencing Monday.

As he’s not admitting guilt and still suffering head in sand, I think we can pretty much expect something totally lame in submissions and absolutely no f**king insight into his stupid crimes.

Pells lawyer talked about “vanilla” molestation ( before he was found to be innocent).

I wonder if you can have a vanilla hammer attack on a roof?

The Ute window seems to be a tangible reflection of his state of mind per entering on the scene.

He’s lost his discount of a full 25% for the Hail Mary technical pass which he dropped cold.

I wonder if he will put on any references?

Hopefully he’s done an anger management course.

A shrink report, ptsd from junior footy failures, anything.

He should bring his toothbrush.

Gaol won’t help him, but I don’t think the magistrate can send any other message to the community.

He’s a footy role model as well, which makes the pressure to slot him even stronger.

If her honour is not packing sentencing heat, the prosecution will be up her like a rat up a drainpipe.

Amones spell as junior council ranger has ended quite badly, its frightening how stupid these people are.

Roofie then comes in swinging into the Amone bank account like Haynes victim, lost income.

How to lose up to $4m or $5m in about 10 minutes.

We taxpayers have to foot the bill. For criminals that can afford it, maybe we can introduce a fee for locking them up. Even a contribution.

Spend the cash on things we need like housing, education, health, housing etc.
 
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I’m just wondering whether there was anything at all that could have been done to prevent that sudden surge of his loss of his senses.

The vain hope of innocence…might be still be in his head.

That this time next year, he’ll be a Dolphin or something. $550k contract and living the Queensland league player lifestyle. Player of the year even.

Beers, sun, paragliding, surf, swimming and a bbq at Mt Tamborine.

Funds off to Samoa for Uncles new tyre business. A catch up with his sisters friends sister for islander church or whatever he’s into.

He’s just not going to be a happy camper when all the avenues for appeal are exhausted and he’s sharing a cell with Cedrick who is running the block.

It’s going to hit him pretty hard when he has to farewell his smartphone. I’m told it’s not easy.
 
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His real friends are going to try to get him used to the idea he’s going away and give him strategies to cope with it.

Not fill his mind full of muck and prolong his fantasy of getting away with it.

His real friends are going to teach him that real men own up, take responsibility and try to make good.

Stop the running away in the head.

If he wasn’t there, 99.9999% of lawyers would have let him take the stand and given evidence. They would led his alibi and brought along witnesses.

That’s my view.

You can have a technical defence, but judges etc aren’t stupid.

If we work out he wouldn’t have got gaol if he pleaded guilty straight away, that would be catastrophic.

A number of us have said that over the months.
 
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Slippery Morris

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You know how I long for the day when we get to dissect the previous weekends victory, have a laugh at some of our more funnier posters (you know who you are) and review and discuss how we'll win the upcoming game!
Hopefully next season that will be very common. If not dissecting a good victory a good performance no doubt. It will blow up deluxe next season if Feagai and Sloan have stand out seasons and are the reason Saints win most their games. Anything can happen.
 
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Life will go on.

I’d rather have Flanno and his opportunity than Junior and Dean etc.

He’s a good player and he had room to improve, but he wasn’t Uber dominant and he could have sucked other players into his mental surge vortex.

It could be a blessing in disguise.

Flanno got the sharks a premiership. Threaded that needle and did so with a mixed side.
 

Wolfgang90

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Hopefully this incident will be the last negative one for us for a while. Culture has been poor for a few years, so I hope Flanno can bring in some cultural change to the playing group. I feel like we saw some positive change since the hook sacking. The likes of Lomax & Lawrie on-field performances & increased leadership.
 
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If he had gone on the stand I think he would have gone straight to jail. He would have been done like a dinner.

I suppose we should be grateful!

If his lawyers somehow pull it off on appeal, they should win as Oscar or their professional equivalent.

When his lawyer said he wasn’t in fact there, I choked on my cornflakes.
 
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I can’t read it through the paywall.

As a question of fact, the reality is that junior made his own dumb decision. It’s not conduct that is representative of SGI or the NRL. The vast majority of players are good human beings.

The NRL is dragging the game to the USA to attract gambling revenue. It’s compromising the comp, it is unashamed about that.

Gambling to excess, is far more destructive to more people in more ways than Amone could ever be.

People just don’t connect the dots.

Bankruptcies, suicide, assaults, drinking, drugs and plenty of domestic violence caused by gambling addicts. Vlandys quiet victims.
 

getsmarty

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I can’t read it through the paywall.

As a question of fact, the reality is that junior made his own dumb decision. It’s not conduct that is representative of SGI or the NRL. The vast majority of players are good human beings.

The NRL is dragging the game to the USA to attract gambling revenue. It’s unashamed about that.

Gambling to excess, is far more destructive to more people in more ways than Amone could ever be.

People just don’t connect the dots.

Bankruptcies, suicide, assaults, drinking, drugs and plenty of domestic violence caused by gambling addicts.

Apologies re Paywall @The Silverdale Phantom .... posted in the hope someone could fill us all in.

At a guess...we will know on Monday.
 

hewi

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What Monday’s sentencing of Junior Amone means for NRL and Dragons​

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Talatau Amone faces sentencing on Monday. Picture: NRL Photos
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  • By DEAN RITCHIE

  • NEWS CORP AUSTRALIA SPORTS NEWSROOM
  • 3:51PM DECEMBER 7, 2023


Rising St George Illawarra star Junior Amone will be sentenced on Monday having been found guilty of a hammer attack in October.
The NRL integrity unit will monitor the court verdict before determining whether to take disciplinary action against 21-year-old Amone. There could also be an appeal.
Evidence and the Magistrate’s comments will also be reviewed but it is likely Amone would, depending on the severity of the verdict, attract punishment from the NRL.
While supporting Amone, St George Illawarra is attempting to move forward from the drama and are expected to name Ben Hunt and Kyle Flanagan in their halves for next year’s round one match against Gold Coast.
Former NSW utility Jack Bird is another halves option.
In October, the court was told that magistrate Gabriel Fleming would be contemplating a prison term for Amone, who is contracted to the Dragons until the end of next year.
Any rugby league post-case developments around Amone – part of Tonga’s 2022 World Cup squad – would come through joint consultation between the NRL and St George Illawarra.
The Dragons and NRL were not commenting when contacted on Thursday.
St George Illawarra is fully focused on its preparations for 2024, regardless of Amone’s court outcome.
Two players who could have played in the halves at Saints, Jayden Sullivan and Moses Mbye, have left the club for 2024.
Talatau Amone faces sentencing on Monday. Picture: Brendan Radke
Talatau Amone faces sentencing on Monday. Picture: Brendan Radke
“The plan was to transition Kyle into a number nine over the next couple of years but he’ll have to stay in the halves for a little bit, which I’ve got no problems with,” coach Shane Flanagan told the media earlier this month.
“I’ve always thought Kyle’s style with Benny Hunt will work perfectly because Benny is a runner, so he’ll get a shot there.”
When initially charged, Amone was subjected to the NRL’s no-fault stand down policy, which suspends players while facing charges that carry a maximum jail term of 11 years or more.
He was then cleared for a return to St George Illawarra after his case was shifted from a district court to local court and his maximum sentence was cut to five years.
The Dragons still have another three vacant spots in their 2024 roster.
Amone, along with his father, Talatau, was found guilty in Wollongong Local Court after arming himself with a hammer and chasing a tradesman off a roof in a violent incident in Wollongong last year.
He was immediately stood down by the Dragons, who said at the time: “As a result of this outcome, (Junior) Amone has been stood down from all club activities until further notice.
“The club will make no further comment at this time as court proceedings continue.”
One of the tradesmen was allegedly pushed off the roof, falling around two metres and sustaining serious wrist, arms and hip injuries.
 

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