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Andrew Fifita tells junior rugby league referee: ‘I’ll smash you’

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Bench
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Of course here was none because the incident was such a non issue the cop would of life looked like the pathetic loser he is

I find it interesting that people are choosing to criticize the referee because he is a Police officer. The majority of criticism of this ref that I've read on here are along the lines of "he's a riot cop, he should be used to this." or "cop + referee = power trip." Nothing about his actions other than not wanting to discuss an on field matter, after the game with a trainer. If he was an MMA fighter, a boxer, a soldier, etc etc, people would people still be having a go at him? I doubt it.

He is a volunteer referee for Rugby League and should not be subject to this alleged abuse. Regardless of his employment or apparent attitude after the game.

And lets twist this the other way a bit. Fifita being the professional rugby league player obviously knows more about the game than some volunteer ref. And he is an Australian representative! Very easy to paint Fifita as the one with the power trip here.
 

DiegoNT

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Some posters trying to defend the indefensible are just making themselves to be ignorant twats, like a so-called moderate muslim trying to defend isis or a so-called christian defending pedo ministers.

They vebally abused and possibly tried to intimidated an official/s, whether or not that official/s made mistakes, is not defendable,

You have serious mental problems mate, absolutely no one is supporting the actions of the fifita twins, or the abuse of ref. Almost everyone on this post has said that what the brothers did was out of line and that they have to be punished for abusing refs. That much is not disputed. The argument that comes into is did the ref have a role in creating and/or making the situation worse and what was the severity of the abuse (it's a huge difference between physically threatening someone and it merely being an argument that got a hit heated). The fact that there are many conflicting views from different witnesses and reported video evidence that now doesn't exist means that there is more to this story then was initially reported
 

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You have serious mental problems mate, absolutely no one is supporting the actions of the fifita twins, or the abuse of ref. Almost everyone on this post has said that what the brothers did was out of line and that they have to be punished for abusing refs. That much is not disputed. The argument that comes into is did the ref have a role in creating and/or making the situation worse and what was the severity of the abuse (it's a huge difference between physically threatening someone and it merely being an argument that got a hit heated). The fact that there are many conflicting views from different witnesses and reported video evidence that now doesn't exist means that there is more to this story then was initially reported

Or less.
 

magpie4ever

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You have serious mental problems mate, absolutely no one is supporting the actions of the fifita twins, or the abuse of ref. Almost everyone on this post has said that what the brothers did was out of line and that they have to be punished for abusing refs. That much is not disputed. The argument that comes into is did the ref have a role in creating and/or making the situation worse and what was the severity of the abuse (it's a huge difference between physically threatening someone and it merely being an argument that got a hit heated). The fact that there are many conflicting views from different witnesses and reported video evidence that now doesn't exist means that there is more to this story then was initially reported

You are the one with issues, boyo.

You seem to accept some posts of the situation as factual but other statements as disputed versions of the situation to suit your belefs.

FACT: Verbally abused an official, doesn't matter what caused it - they are gone. The rest can be decide over time.
 

magpie4ever

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I find it interesting that people are choosing to criticize the referee because he is a Police officer. The majority of criticism of this ref that I've read on here are along the lines of "he's a riot cop, he should be used to this." or "cop + referee = power trip." Nothing about his actions other than not wanting to discuss an on field matter, after the game with a trainer. If he was an MMA fighter, a boxer, a soldier, etc etc, people would people still be having a go at him? I doubt it.

He is a volunteer referee for Rugby League and should not be subject to this alleged abuse. Regardless of his employment or apparent attitude after the game.

And lets twist this the other way a bit. Fifita being the professional rugby league player obviously knows more about the game than some volunteer ref. And he is an Australian representative! Very easy to paint Fifita as the one with the power trip here.

Must say, they are not volunteers - they are paid.
 

DiegoNT

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You are the one with issues, boyo.

You seem to accept some posts of the situation as factual but other statements as disputed versions of the situation to suit your belefs.

FACT: Verbally abused an official, doesn't matter what caused it - they are gone. The rest can be decide over time.

You've taken the report of the ref as gospel.
In my opinion the fact that the video evidence that the ref talked about in his report doesn't exist puts doubt into my mind about his truthfulness
The fact that there's many conflicting reports means that that statement might not be true, and that we should keep an open mind about the whole situation.
There's no denying that the fifita's should be punished for their role, abuse of refs should never be tolerated, but no one even has a clear account as to what extent that abuse was yet means it needs to be investigated further
 

Canard

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Funny how in the SKD thread the past history of one of the people involved kept getting brought up non stop.

Yet, it's not even being mentioned by some in this thread.
 

Canard

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You've taken the report of the ref as gospel.
In my opinion the fact that the video evidence that the ref talked about in his report doesn't exist puts doubt into my mind about his truthfulness

This is not keeping an open mind though, it's applying your personal bias and coming up with something to suit it.
 

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The Victorian Project talking about the Fifita thing Steve Price just claimed due to "sold out soccer crowds over the weekend parents are now pushing their kids into playing soccer instead of rugby league"

Only a problem in rugby league apparently, it's not like an AFL head coach got suspended for doing the same thing at his sons junior game... Oh wait!
 

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This is not keeping an open mind though, it's applying your personal bias and coming up with something to suit it.

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DiegoNT

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This is not keeping an open mind though, it's applying your personal bias and coming up with something to suit it.

Soo
If I say I have doubts about one side of the story and say that all the facts in this case need to be investigated before we make a judgment on this case that's being close minded?

But if a take the refs version as fact, even though his video evidence no doesn't exist and other people have differing views on what happened is being open minded.
 

Card Shark

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I find it interesting that people are choosing to criticize the referee because he is a Police officer. The majority of criticism of this ref that I've read on here are along the lines of "he's a riot cop, he should be used to this." or "cop + referee = power trip." Nothing about his actions other than not wanting to discuss an on field matter, after the game with a trainer. If he was an MMA fighter, a boxer, a soldier, etc etc, people would people still be having a go at him? I doubt it.

He is a volunteer referee for Rugby League and should not be subject to this alleged abuse. Regardless of his employment or apparent attitude after the game.

And lets twist this the other way a bit. Fifita being the professional rugby league player obviously knows more about the game than some volunteer ref. And he is an Australian representative! Very easy to paint Fifita as the one with the power trip here.

Fair Comment.
 

Card Shark

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If one or both the Fifita brothers are found guilty of threatening to smash the referee then the NRL will have no choice but to ban them for life.
As far as I'm concerned their is no half way house on this matter.

Ridiculous comment.

So if they actually touched the ref, what's the next level of punishment....execution?? :roll:
 

Canard

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Soo
If I say I have doubts about one side of the story and say that all the facts in this case need to be investigated before we make a judgment on this case that's being close minded?

But if a take the refs version as fact, even though his video evidence no doesn't exist and other people have differing views on what happened is being open minded.

No what you have posted there is fine.

But Your not applying those standards to yourself or previous posts.
 

DiegoNT

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No what you have posted there is fine.

But Your not applying those standards to yourself or previous posts.

Oh ok, I thought it summed up my post but obviously not. All I'm trying to say is that theirs wildly conflicting views to this story and it's not as black and white as many people claim. So many people are willing to write the fifita's of completely without looking at all sides of the story so I've probably given the fifita's more of the benefit of the doubt. While they've definitely done wrong we don't know the extent yet so we should wait until a proper investigation has been done if the incident was as it was initially reported it'd probably mean a lifetime suspension for the twins and the end of their nrl careers, but if you listen to only the twins side of the story a 12 month junior suspension, a few nrl games suspension and a big fine will probably be the case. So looking at it from all sides and finding out the truth in this story is vital
 

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