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Anyone still want to sack Flanno?

glenmoresharkie

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If the Morris boys don't carve us up out wide I will be surprised. I'm still unimpressed with the centres. Beale offers nothing. Also The Dogs were horrible in the first half last week then blew them off the park in second half.Dunno what Flannos record is like against Hasler

You watch Beale get into open space. He's so quick and light on his feet. When he gets into the backfield you just watch him go.

Good defensively too
 

jc155776

Coach
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You think Holmes would have scored as munch tries as he has if not for Beale?

Beale is playing very very good. People with little knowledge of the game may disagree due to them being distracted by the end product, not what leads up to to it. Beale is also covering defensively for Val who is still learning to defend on the wing.
 
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If the Morris boys don't carve us up out wide I will be surprised. I'm still unimpressed with the centres. Beale offers nothing. Also The Dogs were horrible in the first half last week then blew them off the park in second half.Dunno what Flannos record is like against Hasler

Hasler leads 3-0

2011 19-13
2012 26-6
2013 24-8
 

millersnose

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I'm no Flanno fan but we are competing currently and in the top 8. Short of a catastrophic losing streak to finish the season I can deal with one more year. Next year with new halves, an awesome hooker and some solid fullback choices will be the deal breaker for me.

Flanno needs a lot of work and needs some outside advice maybe, but he is getting the job done enough to not warrant a pay out at the moment.

I see some things I like in him, and some things I don't, but that's life.

I hope the only thing the club does now is back him 100% and fans need to do the same so there are no excuses to be used later.

The club needs a hard edge, but we also need a f**k everyone else and rally edge as well.

Good stuff jc
 

sandshark

Bench
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Flanno fapper or not. We are currently winning and doing better than half the comp.

If finish in bottom 4 then I guess Lyall will ask questions but we should all expect our saviour to be here at the end of this year and next.
 

Maccas4177

Juniors
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His tryscoring record would say otherwise.

You blokes know more about league than I do but I reckon he has been playing well for us! It's mentioned quite often that our edge runners run our centres out of space.
I'm looking forward to seeing how he goes with a decent set of halves
 

azzah72

Bench
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You guys are f**king mental if you think Beale is going shit.

He is playing un-selfishly. He is defending strong, getting the ball to Val and they are scoring.

He's playing like Dean Whare, who in my opinion is one of the best centres in the comp.

Not many tries but plenty of saves, positional plays and Try assists.
 
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Ads

First Grade
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Im happy with Beale, if he was scoring tries he would be one of the form centres. Next year hopefully he will be on the left side where I think he is more suited and Bird on the right. Thats a good pairing.
 

ragzouken

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Yeah its a weird one, maybe its just Lewis taking all the tries Beale should be getting?

I'd say he would of had a few if lewie wasn't in such great form, he has been immense for us runs some of the best lines in the comp and playing tough as nail's looks to be playing with absolutely everything he has atm which is awesome...

I've also notice lewie will get on the right wing in preparation of a early shift to the right when we are counterattacking out of our own zone, i don't know what the idea there is, he might be just catching a break and it's just coincidence...but if he isn't out there we dont shift it wide, might be a bit of flannoball? either way having great success.

beale has been good for us, he isn't like penis fingers he can set up his winger for a try.. doesn't hurt when val is such a freak finisher in the corner... thats something we haven't had in a while is a class center-wing combo, toss in lewis and it's a borderline international right hand side.

compare it to the left (which sees most the ball) and wade....ugh a bit of a first world problem.

alot of questions of flanno i have had i feel will be answered at belmore and the week after.
 
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Frenzy.

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You think Holmes would have scored as munch tries as he has if not for Beale?

Beale is playing very very good. People with little knowledge of the game may disagree due to them being distracted by the end product, not what leads up to to it. Beale is also covering defensively for Val who is still learning to defend on the wing.

Yes. To all of that plus trying to coach Humphrey offensively.
 

RUBIKS

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that's an alarming statistic
perhaps the coaches playing the sharks have come up with a groundbreeaking plan. an exciting innovation, to run big forwards at the halfs in an effort to tire them out.

because every other halfback in the comp has nearly zero missed tackles so its something the other coaches only do to the sharks

perhaps its a tactic that will catch on

I didn't raise the point of Robson not being a good defender any more as a reason to dump him, nor as an argument, it's just fact.

You think this "groundbreaking" plan is something new they came up with this year? In that, they haven't been running at him for the past 3 seasons? Or could you say, they have, and his missed tackle count is up on what it was previous years even though the tactic hasn't changed?

Against Canberra, he had to make 12 tackles and missed 5, compared to the 26 Bird had to make. So which half are they running at again?

He has missed more tackles than anyone at our club and is currently 4th highest for missed tackles in the league. If you don't think that's worse than his previous performances then more power to ya.

I remember when it used to be flanno and sticky don't let players play their natural game, they instruct them to play how they want to

Has that changed ?

I think you're confusing letting someone play their natural game and coaching them and the players around them to be better players.

Lets say Bird bird puts a kick in behind the line. Did he do that because that was his best option, something he saw.... or his only option? We don't know but I'm leaning towards the latter. In the first Roosters game he ran straight and hard. In the South's game they marked up on him. Since then we have the crab. If he had some decoy runners, or some support, we give him the opportunity to choose (pass short, pass long, dummy and run, kick) what he thinks will work best for the team as opposed to shitting bricks and running sideways or putting kicks though. Both of which I have no problems with if it's the option the player chose because he thought it was best for the team as opposed to having no other option.

Give them the tools to perform, a pen, paper, reference manuals... Don't script it for them though.

mediocre backline
good forwards
below average halves

we will do very well to make the finals
it would be a flaming miracle to do much better

Actually, I would be surprised if we didn't make the finals. I don't understand people bagging out the team.

Gallen SOO/International
Lewis SOO/International
Fifita SOO/International
Beal International
Ennis SOO

Apart from the rich clubs, not many can boast that many rep players.

You think Holmes would have scored as munch tries as he has if not for Beale?

That Beal assist where Val picked up the loose ball and scooted for the try line was awesome. Or the one where Bird kicked through was better. The Lewis cutout ball was also good... Wait on... Beal only has 2 try assists? Yeah, I think Val would have scored as many... (maybe two less) without Beal.

You think Val would be going this good without Beale?
Here I'll agree with you. He's been good for young Val in learning the game. However I don't buy into the he's our best centre argument. I know Leutelle doesn't have many friends around these parts but he's played less games, has just as many try assists, and scored 4 try's and 8 line breaks, both of which, to the best I could find, are a duck egg for Beal.

And hire who again?

Oh that's right there no idiot who would touch us.
Not that we could afford to pay him out anyway.

That bit just won't sink in to some of you though.

Have you asked all the coaches and assistant coaches out there if they want to play for the Sharks? Did they tell you they didn't want to coach us? Or are you just speculating?

As for the pay out part. I'd be counting on the yet to be refuted clause in Flanno's contract that says we can review his performance at the end of the year and give him the flick if we don't feel it's satisfactory. If there isn't such a clause, well then obviously we're stuck with him for another year at least.

Tell you one thing though. Manly have their worst injury crisis in over a decade and they look like they're about to flick their club legend and head coach who got them to three consecutive finals series and a Grand Final. There's a club that doesn't accept mediocrity.
 
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Robbo has the 6th highest tackle rate in the club. he misses an average of 2.5 tackles per game and averages just under 19 tackles per game. He doesn't defend on the wing like Johnson, Reynolds , Benji and others. He takes on charging props and back rowers and handles them like a 2nd lock. He is past his best. He is getting older and he is not the fastest half runnig around. But is is a rock. He has the utmost respect from the other players and has played just about every game this year. Although he mixes it up in the middle, he stays injury free. You have to admit he is a tough player. May not get too many chances next year, but with Chad and Jimmy he might get a chance through injury.
 
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Mr Angry

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Robbo has the 6th highest tackle rate in the club. he misses an average of 2.5 tackles per game and averages just under 19 tackles per game. He doesn't defend on the wing like Johnson, Reynolds , Benji and others. He takes on charging props and back rowers and handles them like a 2nd lock. He is past his best. He is getting older and he is not the fastest half runnig around. But is is a rock. He has the utmost respect from the other players and has played just about every game this year. Although he mixes it up in the middle, he stays injury free. You have to admit he is a tough player. May not get too many chances next year, but with Chad and Jimmy he might get a chance through injury.

Again, there is no question on his toughness, heart, gives his all, every game.

However he uber slow, has a shyte kicking game and directs poorly.

Maybe next year....but this year..we also ran, need better halves...
 

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