Armchair Coach/Selector time

[Gazzamatta]

We keep being assured our fitness isnt an issue but I'm not convinced. How many times would a Raiders player be tackled and regain his feet to play the ball while Eels players were still getting off the ground. We scrambled pretty well but we shouldn't have to. Its either fitness or strength or technique. This isnt new. Its been happening for years. I bet we look fantastic in the Wrestle Room? Theres probably a video to prove it.

 

[Gazzamatta]

What about Chris Anderson? He mentored Kearney and look how good hes going. Ffs Max.

 

[Gazzamatta]

So whats next. Bernie moves on? I feel there is worse to come but maybe thats because I'm an Eels Supporter.

 

[Gronk]

Merkins here wanted The Cougar out of the club before he started. Now bc Tigers are going well apparently he wasn’t all that bad. I’m trying to keep up, but I am struggling TBH.

 

[strider]

We keep being assured our fitness isnt an issue but I'm not convinced. How many times would a Raiders player be tackled and regain his feet to play the ball while Eels players were still getting off the ground. We scrambled pretty well but we shouldn't have to. Its either fitness or strength or technique. This isnt new. Its been happening for years. I bet we look fantastic in the Wrestle Room? Theres probably a video to prove it.

Apart from one game we havent been absolutely flogged .... we are mostly defending well - defence is hard work and if you do ok at it you are generally fairly fit.... we just cant score for shit

 

[strider]

Merkins here wanted The Cougar out of the club before he started. Now bc Tigers are going well apparently he wasn’t all that bad. I’m trying to keep up, but I am struggling TBH.

Bernie could help find us a few cougers

 

[Happy MEel]

Apart from one game we havent been absolutely flogged .... we are mostly defending well - defence is hard work and if you do ok at it you are generally fairly fit.... we just cant score for shit

We have the 2nd worst points against in the comp. We are so far from ‘mostly defending well’.

 

[strider]

We have the 2nd worst points against in the comp. We are so far from ‘mostly defending well’.

As i said "apart from one game" .... if we hadnt been flogged by manly then our point against would probably not be worst in the league which would be unusual since we havent won a game

And before all you geniuses tear me a new one for IFs and BUTs, yes i know we got flogged by manly ... so f**k off

 

[emjaycee]

I’m not sure I’ve ever been more depressed at the state of our team and as an Eels fan, that speaks volumes. Bevan French absolutely can not keep his spot next week. You can’t return two runs and expect to play NRL the following week... surely?

I have a suspicion M Jennings was told to not let Bevan take the kick returns. Limit the opportunity for ragdolling him.

 

[Bazal]

As i said "apart from one game" .... if we hadnt been flogged by manly then our point against would probably not be worst in the league which would be unusual since we havent won a game

And before all you geniuses tear me a new one for IFs and BUTs, yes i know we got flogged by manly ... so f**k off

Nah, I agree. Defence is usually the first thing to go when a coach loses his team. Some of those losses under SK for example players were deadset not even trying....this mob are trying. They're turning up in defence still.

In some ways that makes the whole thing tougher to swallow. As much as merkins think doing X or Y will fix it, there's no easy fix at all

 

[Noise]

As i said "apart from one game" .... if we hadnt been flogged by manly then our point against would probably not be worst in the league which would be unusual since we havent won a game

And before all you geniuses tear me a new one for IFs and BUTs, yes i know we got flogged by manly ... so f**k off

30 points against us vs the tigers was also terrible, particularly when they were averaging about 1 try a game before they played us

 

[strider]

Im not trying to say we are doing well ffs .... just saying we are mostly turning up in defence with little possession, which to me suggests we dont have terrible fitness levels

 

[Gronk]

Im not trying to say we are doing well ffs .... just saying we are mostly turning up in defence with little possession, which to me suggests we dont have terrible fitness levels

Execution in the red zone. Win the penalty count will help mountains.

Last night we were behind 0-10 just before half time and possession was runing at a familiar 33%.

 

[Happy MEel]

As i said "apart from one game" .... if we hadnt been flogged by manly then our point against would probably not be worst in the league which would be unusual since we havent won a game

And before all you geniuses tear me a new one for IFs and BUTs, yes i know we got flogged by manly ... so f**k off

According to NRL stats we also have the most missed tackles in the comp by a fair margin. 237 compared to the Warriors who are 2nd worst at 206. I think you’re giving our defence far too much credit and the stats back that up.

 

[Happy MEel]

We also have the 3rd worst tackle efficiency. Our defence across 80 minutes is poor. We often start off strong but across a game we are close to the worst in the comp.

 

[Noise]

Im not trying to say we are doing well ffs .... just saying we are mostly turning up in defence with little possession, which to me suggests we dont have terrible fitness levels

Ummm yes you are:

Apart from one game we havent been absolutely flogged .... we are mostly defending well - defence is hard work and if you do ok at it you are generally fairly fit.... we just cant score for shit

 

[Bazal]

According to NRL stats we also have the most missed tackles in the comp by a fair margin. 237 compared to the Warriors who are 2nd worst at 206. I think you’re giving our defence far too much credit and the stats back that up.

I think that's a slightly disingenuous manipulation of that statistic, as well.

Now the NRL site is absolutely awful for stats, so it's hard to compare all clubs but we've missed 237 of 2,365 attempted tackles, which is easily the highest in the NRL.

When you MAKE the most tackles in the NRL you are likely to also MISS the most.

 

[Happy MEel]

I think that's a slightly disingenuous manipulation of that statistic, as well.

Now the NRL site is absolutely awful for stats, so it's hard to compare all clubs but we've missed 237 of 2,365 attempted tackles, which is easily the highest in the NRL.

When you MAKE the most tackles in the NRL you are likely to also MISS the most.

No it’s not. See my post re. our tackle efficiency which takes this into account. We are poor no matter how much we try and sugar coat it.

Highest missed tackles, 2nd highest points against and 3rd worst tackle efficiency.

 

[Noise]

I think that's a slightly disingenuous manipulation of that statistic, as well.

Now the NRL site is absolutely awful for stats, so it's hard to compare all clubs but we've missed 237 of 2,365 attempted tackles, which is easily the highest in the NRL.

When you MAKE the most tackles in the NRL you are likely to also MISS the most.

That's about 10% of attempted tackles being missed tackles. That doesn't seem very good to me. I imagine our ineffective tackles are pretty bad too.

 

[strider]

I guess im just an idiot then

But in my opionion, for a team that never wins a penalty count and usually gets caned by the refs, has so little possession, never scores tries or goals to get another set, hasnt won a f**kin game, more than half our points differential is attributed to a single massively terrible game - i think things could be dramatically worse .... and yes, worse than the massive f**kin mess we are already in