Around the Grounds

[HarVeeGee]

It’s possible that teams don’t perform at exactly the same level every single week. Mind blowing I know.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

Yeah Manly were pretty good in the games leading up to playing us. But their defence has definitely been out of sorts since then.

 

[Spot On]

It’s possible that teams don’t perform at exactly the same level every single week. Mind blowing I know.

Um, no, of course not but…

Manly’s form has fallen off a cliff at the moment.

Our form would have looked a lot better if we didn’t let 32 in last week.

Hopefully we don’t perform at exactly the same level in ‘d’ this week and improve in that side of our game.

 

[HarVeeGee]

Certainly another scrappy, big-hearted effort won’t be enough against what’s left of the best team of the NRL era. Next week is one where you’re happy with a competitive performance rather than a win or loss per se.

 

[Jono078]

Watching the Tigers and Klem's 200th game right now. They are incredibly bad to watch. They're playing like how I expected the Dolphins to probably look this year.

It's truly horrendous. Wonder how Klem feels about his move there now.

 

[alexwilliams_66692007]

Tigers are awful. Their attack looks even worse than ours did last year

 

[Zoidberg]

Found these interesting. Been a while since we’ve been up top of some good stats.

 

[Woosh]

Good to see a Newcastle fullback that is finally taking the meters on offer on kick returns.

 

[Yosh]

Weird to be leading thr tackles made and not tackles missed stat!ong may it continue!

 

[Jono078]

Tackles made is not a good one. Gotta figure out why that’s happening. Are we I’ll disciplined which leads to teams getting more shots at us?

there’s something to fix there which will probably tie into our defense looking better too.

Unreal to lead the tackle breaks though. That’s a big one to win and usually that’s what leads to winning position, momentum and points.

 

[perverse]

Tackles made is not a good one. Gotta figure out why that’s happening. Are we I’ll disciplined which leads to teams getting more shots at us?

there’s something to fix there which will probably tie into our defense looking better too.

Unreal to lead the tackle breaks though. That’s a big one to win and usually that’s what leads to winning position, momentum and points.

It's not necessarily a bad or a good stat without context. It could also mean we're very effective at getting numbers in the tackle this year too. Fortunately we're accompanying it with very good missed/inneffective tackle stats, so I don't think it's a massive worry at this stage. We just need to stop clocking off and letting the soft tries in.

 

[Yosh]

It feels like we are giving away a lot more 6 agains compared to before. No stats to back it up though.

 

[Jono078]

It's not necessarily a bad or a good stat without context. It could also mean we're very effective at getting numbers in the tackle this year too. Fortunately we're accompanying it with very good missed/inneffective tackle stats, so I don't think it's a massive worry at this stage. We just need to stop clocking off and letting the soft tries in.

Definitely. Generally though it’s a negative stat, meaning you’re giving the opposition more shots at you throughout the game, usually because of missed tackles, errors or penalties/set restarts.

We have also been in some high octane games and golden point, so gotta factor that in too.

 

[SamSepi0l]

Definitely. Generally though it’s a negative stat, meaning you’re giving the opposition more shots at you throughout the game, usually because of missed tackles, errors or penalties/set restarts.

We have also been in some high octane games and golden point, so gotta factor that in too.

Yeah I am going to disagree there. It's not a negative.

Last 5 years league leaders in tackle attempts and their ladder position:


2018: Roosters (1st), Storm (2nd), Tigers (9th)
2019: Roosters (2nd), Rabbitohs (3rd), Raiders (4th)
2020: Roosters (4th), Raiders (5th), Panthers (1st)
2021: Panthers (2nd), Roosters (5th), Eels (6th)
2022: Panthers (1st), Eels (4th), Rabbitohs (7th)

In every year, one of the grand finalists were in the top 3. In 3/5 years both were.

 

[Jono078]

Yeah I am going to disagree there. It's not a negative.

Last 5 years league leaders in tackle attempts and their ladder position:


2018: Roosters (1st), Storm (2nd), Tigers (9th)
2019: Roosters (2nd), Rabbitohs (3rd), Raiders (4th)
2020: Roosters (4th), Raiders (5th), Panthers (1st)
2021: Panthers (2nd), Roosters (5th), Eels (6th)
2022: Panthers (1st), Eels (4th), Rabbitohs (7th)

In every year, one of the grand finalists were in the top 3. In 3/5 years both were.

You know NRL.com count the finals games, yes?

 

[SamSepi0l]

Dumb. SO very, very dumb on my end. Wasn't using the site but you're right. And in hindsight seems very obvious.

 

[Woosh]

A couple of things.
The game against the Dolphins where Young made those errors, Newcastle had to make 80 more tackles that day.
The game that ended in a draw against Manly, the side made 400 tackles.
Also, Newcastle are yet to have their bye whereas a team like the Dragons are last on tackles made had their bye in the first round.

 

[Nuke]

There are variables, of course, but the only way it evens out completely is at the end of the home-and-away season. That's when we'll see how we truly compare stats-wise.
At the moment, comparisons can only be made with what's at hand, and it's awesome to see the team and individual players doing as well as they are about 1/4 of the way into the season.

 

[Zoidberg]

Week after week lately I’m seeing playmakers taken out late and then the tackler sent to the bin just like when Hastings was taken out by Kaufusi when we played the Dolphins.
My question is why was Hastings taken off by the independent doctor but none of these other players have been after being hit late?

 

[Knight Tales]

A couple of things.
The game against the Dolphins where Young made those errors, Newcastle had to make 80 more tackles that day.
The game that ended in a draw against Manly, the side made 400 tackles.
Also, Newcastle are yet to have their bye whereas a team like the Dragons are last on tackles made had their bye in the first round.

And yet we made more effective tackles and missed fewer against the Dolphins and Manly. It tells you our fitness is at or above anyone. It also says once we learn how to control possession more equitably we are going to be a handful. The bye round being brought into this argument is absolutely pointless.