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Ask LU - The relationship advice thread II

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madunit

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It's not right to you maybe but don't speak for everyone. Everyone else's happiness matters more to me than my own and if that makes me depressed than so be it. I don't want to disappoint anyone. If you only care about your own happiness and disappointment that's fine but don't berate others for not being as selfish as you are.

If my parents were overbearing and forced me to go to church then no I wouldn't go because they are being unreasonable and selfish themselves. If they were genuinely good people and cared deeply for others and for them to be happy was just to go with them to church every sunday then sure, I would go with them. Being with good, caring parents and seeing them happy would make me happy anyway, right? Being an atheist isn't important to me. I don't care about faith at all.

Right now a girl who really hurt me told me she doesn't want to be friends because seeing me and reminding her of what she did makes her feel like shit. And to save the friendship, if possible, I have to hide my own feelings and memories for the sake of her happiness, because in truth I care more about her than I do my own happiness.
So long as you care more about her (essentially having her by your side is what you care most about, because it allows you to more easily care for her) means that no matter how hard you try to do the right thing by her, all she's going to see is you looking like a miserable merkin and that's only going to make her feel worse.

How long do you plan to be miserable about this? Do you plan to move on?

Simply put, the more moping around you do, the more you push her away and make her feel bad, which is only going to make you feel worse.

So do something about it, something positive, a happy you, makes her feel less shitty, more relaxed and more happy and that's what you want isn't it?
 

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To even consider suicide in my view, shows a very weak character.

The weak willed who are too much of a softcock to deal with the shit they're in and have no care about those who care about them will take the softcock option and commit suicide.

You learn so much about yourself and become so much stronger when you go through some adversity.

What don't kill you only makes you stronger.

Life is like maths. Every problem has a solution (that isn't death - death is not a mathematically recognised solution to any problem)

What's the worse thing you have ever had to deal with?
Many people would love to know how to be like you, you could save alot of lives.
 

madunit

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Plenty, possibly even a shitload more than what people in here whinge about, but I'm not going to go through it all. It's not about what you've been through, it's about what you learn and using that to improve your life.

To many people want to whinge and sook and seek sympathy of others.

I don't have time for weak willed people like that. Life is a gift, a great one at that, so enjoy it, make the most of it
 

Snoochies

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That's a shame you don't have time for so called 'weak willed' people. If you have been through so much your self you could really help alot of people and show them that life really is a great gift.
 

madunit

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The weak willed people are those who refuse to want to improve their lives and seem to want to stay in their misery mindset.

There are people out there who have every reason to be unhappy with their lives etc due to health/illness/injuries etc, but I've found these people have an inner drive that keeps them going despite their setbacks. These people are not weak willed.
 

madunit

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furthermore, You can't tell anyone how to live their life, you can only offer advise/suggestions.

The weak willed will find a reason not to do anything positive or to change the cycle they are in.
 

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It's not right to you maybe but don't speak for everyone. Everyone else's happiness matters more to me than my own and if that makes me depressed than so be it. I don't want to disappoint anyone. If you only care about your own happiness and disappointment that's fine but don't berate others for not being as selfish as you are.

If my parents were overbearing and forced me to go to church then no I wouldn't go because they are being unreasonable and selfish themselves. If they were genuinely good people and cared deeply for others and for them to be happy was just to go with them to church every sunday then sure, I would go with them. Being with good, caring parents and seeing them happy would make me happy anyway, right? Being an atheist isn't important to me. I don't care about faith at all.

Right now a girl who really hurt me told me she doesn't want to be friends because seeing me and reminding her of what she did makes her feel like shit. And to save the friendship, if possible, I have to hide my own feelings and memories for the sake of her happiness, because in truth I care more about her than I do my own happiness.

So you would essentially cast aside your own values for your parents. So essentially you as individual don't really stand for much and are nothing on your own.

So I am not allowed to berate for dedicating your life to the wants of other people while ignoring your own needs but you can berate me for refusing to live my life according to the expectations of others?

I would go out of my way to help someone I cared about, but I wouldn't cast aside my dreams and ambitions for them.

You know what's the first thing you learn in First Aid, it's that the most important person is you and you need to ensure your safety first. Forgoing your own mental health for the sake of other people is only going to be detrimental.

You're not doing anybody any favours by being the way you are, but whatever.
 

Misanthrope

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So, gonna be single in about two months. What's the hot tip on getting back in the dating game, kids?
 

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So you would essentially cast aside your own values for your parents. So essentially you as individual don't really stand for much and are nothing on your own.

So I am not allowed to berate for dedicating your life to the wants of other people while ignoring your own needs but you can berate me for refusing to live my life according to the expectations of others?

I would go out of my way to help someone I cared about, but I wouldn't cast aside my dreams and ambitions for them.

You know what's the first thing you learn in First Aid, it's that the most important person is you and you need to ensure your safety first. Forgoing your own mental health for the sake of other people is only going to be detrimental.

You're not doing anybody any favours by being the way you are, but whatever.

No. Do you even read what I just said? Atheism has no value to me. It's not a value, it's nothing. I couldn't care less about it. Making my parents happy would be a value for me. Being with them and seeing them happy would make me happy. So essentilly I'm doing exactly as my values say. So essentially don't ever f**king say I stand for nothing, I never say that about you because for f**k's sake your a name on a forum to me, like I am to you. Wha the f**k would you know? I'm quite sure you've criticised me for judging people before, yet you go out and say shit like this. Yeah, nice one.

I wasn't berating you fro your choices, the only choice I was berating you for was for criticising those who don't choose to be such self-centred arrogant jerks who are up themselves enough to say to depressed people 'hey maybe you're depressed because you're not enough like me'.

Yeah ok, you wouldn't cast aside your dreams. Whatever, good for you. Doesn't mean others are depressed because their loved ones are more important to them than their dreams.

And yeah, shut the f**k up on that last point. You don't have a single idea what most of the people on here are like. I do plenty of people favours by being like I am. Stop preaching, people aren't wrong just becaue they're not like you.

To many people want to whinge and sook and seek sympathy of others.

I don't have time for weak willed people like that. Life is a gift, a great one at that, so enjoy it, make the most of it

Not everyone is like you. If you're arrogant enough to think you're above these so-called weak willed people then you also have to time to whinge about them like you're doing.

People on here weren't whinging, people were just sharing experience, which a lot of others found helpful. Don't be so high and mighty about it. We know you're better than everyone else.
 
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