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Ask LU - The relationship advice thread II

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Dragon2010

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What was stated above.

$2,000 is a good amount to spend and if you can get a even better deal then that's great. I know people who spent $500 on their ring and she loved it, they are still married today after 40 years, I know people who spent $28,000 and their marriage has still lasted.

At the end of the day, it's just a ring. Focus more on the relationship and your love towards that person and that's all that matters. My eventual gf/fiancée could give me a $10 ring and I'd be happy to be honest.
 

WOTBEH

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What was stated above.

$2,000 is a good amount to spend and if you can get a even better deal then that's great. I know people who spent $500 on their ring and she loved it, they are still married today after 40 years, I know people who spent $28,000 and their marriage has still lasted.

At the end of the day, it's just a ring. Focus more on the relationship and your love towards that person and that's all that matters. My eventual gf/fiancée could give me a $10 ring and I'd be happy to be honest.

oh are you female?

My girl honestly doesn't even care if she gets one she loves me so much and worships me. I am the same with her, regardless of ring I want a daughter with her because she is so special.

She teaches kindy and she tells me the kids always want to hug her aawwww so cute but she can't hug them :(
 

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I don't think it is as useless as you suggest, it's symbolic and a very significant symbol in people's lives at that. I don't want an expensive wedding, but I do want a decent ring, wedding day is one day (which I don't need to rant about again), but the ring is forever and it's not as though it's just an accessory that you put on sometimes to go with an outfit, it's something you wear every day to symbolise this meaningful commitment made between you and your partner

that was in response to misanthrope
 

Misanthrope

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I don't think it is as useless as you suggest, it's symbolic and a very significant symbol in people's lives at that. I don't want an expensive wedding, but I do want a decent ring, wedding day is one day (which I don't need to rant about again), but the ring is forever and it's not as though it's just an accessory that you put on sometimes to go with an outfit, it's something you wear every day to symbolise this meaningful commitment made between you and your partner

that was in response to misanthrope

I think you need to review the definition of the word 'useful' or 'useless'. A wedding ring has exactly zero practical uses.
 

Hallatia

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What was stated above.

$2,000 is a good amount to spend and if you can get a even better deal then that's great. I know people who spent $500 on their ring and she loved it, they are still married today after 40 years, I know people who spent $28,000 and their marriage has still lasted.

At the end of the day, it's just a ring. Focus more on the relationship and your love towards that person and that's all that matters. My eventual gf/fiancée could give me a $10 ring and I'd be happy to be honest.
if you adjust that $500 for CPI and inflation it's the equivalent of a few grand

I'm sure some people can be happily married without a ring. I have a friend whose wedding ring is a tattoo. My point is that it is not unimportant
 

Dragon2010

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oh are you female?

My girl honestly doesn't even care if she gets one she loves me so much and worships me. I am the same with her, regardless of ring I want a daughter with her because she is so special.

She teaches kindy and she tells me the kids always want to hug her aawwww so cute but she can't hug them :(

Last time I checked in my pants I'm certain I'm not female. I'm not giving a female perspective but I'm saying, you don't need to blow the bank to get something decent.

A side story, one of my dads suppliers for work bought his fiancé a $82,000 engagement ring. It was the ugliest thing I've ever seen. You can find some very nice ones.
 

BDR

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Wedding rings are just like weddings - useless and ludicrously expensive.
 

WOTBEH

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Last time I checked in my pants I'm certain I'm not female. I'm not giving a female perspective but I'm saying, you don't need to blow the bank to get something decent.

A side story, one of my dads suppliers for work bought his fiancé a $82,000 engagement ring. It was the ugliest thing I've ever seen. You can find some very nice ones.

Sorry

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Dragon2010

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if you adjust that $500 for CPI and inflation it's the equivalent of a few grand

I'm sure some people can be happily married without a ring. I have a friend whose wedding ring is a tattoo. My point is that it is not unimportant

Yes, No doubt. The ring is important. All I'm saying its just an object, there's more to it. I can't give talk from a female perspective as females are the ones that get the engagement ring, and look forward to their dream wedding.etc.

I know someone who got their engagement ring pierced (Diamond piercing in ring finger).
 

Hallatia

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Wedding rings are just like weddings - useless and ludicrously expensive.
I agree about weddings, not so much about rings, although I suppose some rings are ludicrously expensive, people shouldn't be breaking the bank to buy a ring but they should always be looking to buy something decent especially when they consider that their partner should be wearing that every day
Yes, No doubt. The ring is important. All I'm saying its just an object, there's more to it. I can't give talk from a female perspective as females are the ones that get the engagement ring, and look forward to their dream wedding.etc.

I know someone who got their engagement ring pierced (Diamond piercing in ring finger).
I am a female and even though I'm an anti-wedding tomboy, I still think the ring has some importance and that I want a decent and classy one
 

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mrs unit and I agreed we'd get married before there was a proposal.

I took her to a jewellery shop and told her to pick any ring she wanted, price was not an issue.
 

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There are two things in life worth spending that amount of money on:

- Things that enrich your life (a house, car, things you need)
- Experiences

Wedding rings, fancy clothes, designer shoes and other such dross are just industry telling us that we need these things. Blows my mind what people pay for a piece of largely useless (in a practical sense) metal with an equally useless (albeit pretty) bit of rock in it.

Not insulting either of you (or anybody else) for doing it. Your money, your decision.

But it'll be a cold day in hell when I piss that amount of money up against a wall when it could be spent on travel or something I'll get some use out of.

Your opinion that they're the only things in life worth spending money on, and I agree with you to a point.

Already got a house and car and plenty of things I need.

Marrying my wife was the greatest experience I've had in life, from the start when I went to a jewellers and designed the ring myself that I would propose to her with, to the 1st December last year which came about the culmination of over a year of planning and 35-odd thousand dollars to give us the happiest day of our lives that we shared with our family and friends. Greatest experience I've ever had, and did not balk at spending one single dollar of what we spent on it.

IMO the engagement ring was far from a useless piece of metal with a useless rock in it - it signaled my commitment to her for life, but that's just my opinion.
 

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I prefer the dowry where it is the wife you pay the dowry to and she sets it at whatever she wants
 

Dragon2010

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I am a female and even though I'm an anti-wedding tomboy, I still think the ring has some importance and that I want a decent and classy one

No doubt. From a female perspective that's understandable and I would not want to change, nor be-little your opinion. For it's sentimental value it's very valuable in describing the strength of a relationship, the love for one another.etc. But at the end of the day; if the initial commitment is not there and the ring is just for "Show-Off" purposes then it's pointless as it's value and point is wrong. But that's just me.
 

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I prefer marriage by capture like in ancient Sparta.

Okay except the bit where they shave her head so she looks like a dude...
 

Springs

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There are two things in life worth spending that amount of money on:

- Things that enrich your life (a house, car, things you need)
- Experiences

Wedding rings, fancy clothes, designer shoes and other such dross are just industry telling us that we need these things. Blows my mind what people pay for a piece of largely useless (in a practical sense) metal with an equally useless (albeit pretty) bit of rock in it.

Not insulting either of you (or anybody else) for doing it. Your money, your decision.

But it'll be a cold day in hell when I piss that amount of money up against a wall when it could be spent on travel or something I'll get some use out of.

Well, if an expensive one is what she wants an expensive one is what she will get. I might not agree with it but to be honest, seeing her happy like that would be more use to me than travelling or a car.
For me, a wedding ring made out of plastic would mean as much to me as one worth $10,000. The real worth is still seeing it on your finger after fifty years. Wouldn't matter how shiny it was then.

I don't know why people want to spend money on things they do. Jewellry is one thing. It is really worth nothing but what we put on it. A big house, or mcmansions like they are sometimes called, is another. There's not much difference between one and a regular house other than a whole lot of spread out space. What worth does it give you having the ceiling so high?

And as for a ring or other marriage particulars having symbolism, I think that's the very reason it doesn't need to be expensive. The house I will live in is a dilapidated little cottage that my grandfather has owned for 40 years. It's not expensive, it's not flashy, it's not big and it's probably not what most people want. But it was built in the 20s, was the old stationmaster residence for many years and is the oldest house in the town. I don't want to see it fall into the hands of some lowlifes who trash it like they have many other old houses in the town. It's symbolic to me, it stands for many things I believe in. And I don't want to see it pass away like so many other old things and traditions.

And anyway, there is not much use for weddings now apart from symbolism, and even a lot of the symbolism has gone away.

But in my opinion love is the only real thing worth spending money on, as it's the only thing I'm really living for. I wouldn't balk at spending all I had on wedding things and rings really.
My father has always spent his money on work. $300,000 trucks that take years to pay off, then when he finally has, he buys another one so another 300,000 in debt. I have never cared for spending money on things like that, but then again I've never had any ambition for a career.
 
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