Assistant Coach and other info

[Aragorn]

IMO, the bar has been set pretty farkin low next year. Go the warriors!!

 

[Micistm]

Don't care tbh, over it all, just makes the head spin. I do think they will go better than expected next year, they have to, cos it looks an effin mess

 

[Iafeta]

I'm playing all this with a straight bat and a glass half full approach, some of the commentary in the media is probably on the mark, but I suspect some of it is not. At the end of the day, I'm going to give Elliott the right of way to get a pre season under his belt and get into a new season before evaluating him or the team he is putting together. However, if it doesn't work, to me there's one fairly significant piece of the puzzle who should be held accountable, and that is, Mr Scurrah. The club's turned around dire performances before, I hope the same is true for 2013. At the end of the day, its still the skeleton of a club that had three grades in the grand final in 2011.

 

[shiznit]

http://fightnext.com/video/1DWR44NA323X/Cain-Velasquez-vs-Brad-Morris--UFC-83

jezzz i hope hes a better trainer than a fighter...

there's no shame in losing to Cain.... but jezzz thats a beating...

 

[Fufu Andronez]

http://fightnext.com/video/1DWR44NA323X/Cain-Velasquez-vs-Brad-Morris--UFC-83

jezzz i hope hes a better trainer than a fighter...

there's no shame in losing to Cain.... but jezzz thats a beating...

I hope he instills the same heart into our boys, dude took a massive beating and still managed to get to his feet, unfortunate to debut against Velasquez though he's a beast.

Hopefully he helps us slow down the opposition play the ball and dominate in the ruck.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Saw it too and thought ....

surely not as a lot of good work has been done over past few years with non RL man ... that I believe is a positive.

Is appointment made via SPARC (OR NZ Govt. equivilant)?

I'd have to believe there's no chance Kemp gets the job. He's so many light years behind Doyle it's laughable. But even so, he'd just be plain mud at the job. If the appointment is made through SPARC, as opposed to an old boys network, he's got zero chance.

 

[mean_maori_mean]

I'd have to believe there's no chance Kemp gets the job. He's so many light years behind Doyle it's laughable. But even so, he'd just be plain mud at the job. If the appointment is made through SPARC, as opposed to an old boys network, he's got zero chance.

Once again...how would you guys know?
Its just like making judgement on the warriors coaching staff - especially Wiki + Iro hating.
Yet nobody actually has any true insight.

If kemp has been his protege he no doubt would of been doyles advisor
For all we know much of the positive changes could of been kemp lead already.

I know everyone goes on about the old boy network...which applies to many sports.
However somebody at the top or near the top needs geniune rugby league knowledge - the sport itself and the landscape.

 

[Skinner]

Once again...how would you guys know?
Its just like making judgement on the warriors coaching staff - especially Wiki + Iro hating.
Yet nobody actually has any true insight.

If kemp has been his protege he no doubt would of been doyles advisor
For all we know much of the positive changes could of been kemp lead already.

I know everyone goes on about the old boy network...which applies to many sports.
However somebody at the top or near the top needs geniune rugby league knowledge - the sport itself and the landscape.

Oh PULEEZE

 

[mean_maori_mean]

Oh PULEEZE

Well, just a thought.
He is a polarizing character in the media . . .but unless you were involved with rugby league at a certain level - how would you know.

As a rugby league community we are good to put the boot into our own
Obviously, because we have had some grubs in charge of the game before.

However I find it funny when people bag out people - with having any insight other than a few media reports.
It happanes at coaches, trainers and players levels.

 

[Skinner]

My thoughts on Tony Kemp are based on personal experience, not media reports.

 

[Mixmasterreece]

My thoughts on Tony Kemp are based on personal experience, not media reports.

Refused to drop the soap?

 

[mean_maori_mean]

My thoughts on Tony Kemp are based on personal experience, not media reports.

Fair enough..;

recently...or 20 years ago?
Also in the capactity of working to nz league or at the pub|

Call me a proud kiwi..
I have had enough of the crap Iro and the lesser extent wiki have gotten recently from warriors fans.
tall poppy syndrome in nz... is ridiculous.

Baggin them out.. without having any insight to what actually happened last year.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Well, just a thought.
He is a polarizing character in the media . . .but unless you were involved with rugby league at a certain level - how would you know.

As a rugby league community we are good to put the boot into our own
Obviously, because we have had some grubs in charge of the game before.

However I find it funny when people bag out people - with having any insight other than a few media reports.
It happanes at coaches, trainers and players levels.

He's not polarising in my experience. Seemingly everyone shares my view that he's a muppet. Obviously you aside, which is absolutely fine.

How would we know? I don't follow him through the halls of NZRL every day but I listen to the many times he's been in the media, seen the progress the NZRL don't seem to be making and I base my judgements from that. He was a piss poor Warriors coach and I've seen nothing to suggest he's improved a jot since then.

I have no issue with Iro, except to say if he was up to the job after six years of assistant coaching then I can't see the reason why he wouldn't have the gig now. As for Wiki, huge fan of the bloke personally but if he was in charge of defence last year then he let himself down.

As for that tall poppy stuff..I feel sick every time I hear that phrase. Apparently the Ridges get it. Apparently Mark Watson gets it on the radio. It's not tall poppy syndrome - they're just idiotic members of society. Funny how those in high society, such as the Mad Butcher, Richie McCaw, any of the Kiwi gold medalists etc don't cop it...they're tall poppies and no one sees fit to chop them down. Because they're good people. Those who call tall poppy have shortcomings and personality faults that they'd sooner blame on the green eyes of others.

You've used it a lot that we have no personal insight so seemingly we can't have a reasoned opinion. That's the case for most things in life.

I doubt you could look me square in the eye and honestly say Kemp is capable of being an NZRL CEO.

 

[mean_maori_mean]

He's not polarising in my experience. Seemingly everyone shares my view that he's a muppet. Obviously you aside, which is absolutely fine.

How would we know? I don't follow him through the halls of NZRL every day but I listen to the many times he's been in the media, seen the progress the NZRL don't seem to be making and I base my judgements from that. He was a piss poor Warriors coach and I've seen nothing to suggest he's improved a jot since then.

I have no issue with Iro, except to say if he was up to the job after six years of assistant coaching then I can't see the reason why he wouldn't have the gig now. As for Wiki, huge fan of the bloke personally but if he was in charge of defence last year then he let himself down.

As for that tall poppy stuff..I feel sick every time I hear that phrase. Apparently the Ridges get it. Apparently Mark Watson gets it on the radio. It's not tall poppy syndrome - they're just idiotic members of society. Funny how those in high society, such as the Mad Butcher, Richie McCaw, any of the Kiwi gold medalists etc don't cop it...they're tall poppies and no one sees fit to chop them down. Because they're good people. Those who call tall poppy have shortcomings and personality faults that they'd sooner blame on the green eyes of others.

You've used it a lot that we have no personal insight so seemingly we can't have a reasoned opinion. That's the case for most things in life.

I doubt you could look me square in the eye and honestly say Kemp is capable of being an NZRL CEO.

Mate ...your right and maybe I woke up on the wrongside of the bed...
Im just tired of reading people say that so and so cant do the job.

I suppose it also stems from the NRL ... in the 80s they though kiwis werent good enough for nrl etc. etc.
Even now with NRL and their green aussie logos.
It just pisses me sometimes... why I love to hate the aussies.

I dont really care about kemp or the ceo....
Or whether not he could/would do a good job. My point I have no idea if he would be good or bad.

I was just using to make a point about the warriors and people making judgements there not ready or not good enough. I dont have much insight on the warriors - Im neither here nor there about the warriors.

Perhaps Iro was ready, perhaps he wasnt but as members of the public we dont know that.
Just because they hadnt appointed him doesnt mean he wasnt ready and the best man for the job. But equally he coudl of been equally crap.

But was Wiki really the defense coach??...I though the head coach is in charge of some so important. If was employed 2hrs a week...he might of been the wrestling coach... There is the problem.

So it is glad the Elliot / Bell have begun to assemble a good specialised football team . .
especially f they get mcfadden- especially being a aussie loud mouth halfback will be a good mix for the warriors imo

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I do take your point and there's probably been instances in the past where I've held similar views on other people in other sports.

All I can say on Kemp is that all I can draw on is his days as Warriors coach, in various media roles and interviews over the past few years. And he inspires me with absolutely no confidence. If there are those who appoint him to roles and believe him to be an asset to the NZRL, with no vested interest or bumchummery, then I happily bow to their superior knowledge.

With Iro, I guess it's a tougher one than I originally made out. You're right, there's no way the majority of us have of knowing what calibre of coach this guy is. I guess as a member of the public I can only presume after six or so years of assisting, where the club would know a pretty good deal about him, they weren't sufficiently inspired to look into him as a head coaching option. Sure he may have interviewed but it sounds to me like he was never in the running.

My impression last year was that Wiki was in charge of the defence but again, I don't know that for sure. I'm now led to believe he was only part-time which doesn't seem ideal.

I guess we can all agree (apart from the odd person who has an inside knowledge) that we're basing all we opine on here on guesswork and a limited perspective from the outside. But that's human nature in being a sports fan. I think we're certainly classier than talkback.

 

[mean_maori_mean]

I do take your point and there's probably been instances in the past where I've held similar views on other people in other sports.

All I can say on Kemp is that all I can draw on is his days as Warriors coach, in various media roles and interviews over the past few years. And he inspires me with absolutely no confidence. If there are those who appoint him to roles and believe him to be an asset to the NZRL, with no vested interest or bumchummery, then I happily bow to their superior knowledge.

With Iro, I guess it's a tougher one than I originally made out. You're right, there's no way the majority of us have of knowing what calibre of coach this guy is. I guess as a member of the public I can only presume after six or so years of assisting, where the club would know a pretty good deal about him, they weren't sufficiently inspired to look into him as a head coaching option. Sure he may have interviewed but it sounds to me like he was never in the running.

My impression last year was that Wiki was in charge of the defence but again, I don't know that for sure. I'm now led to believe he was only part-time which doesn't seem ideal.

I guess we can all agree (apart from the odd person who has an inside knowledge) that we're basing all we opine on here on guesswork and a limited perspective from the outside. But that's human nature in being a sports fan. I think we're certainly classier than talkback.

point taken,

In regards to Wiki ..probably the most annoying issue - is we dont know.
But from what I hear he just came down and did a few things with them.

He wasnt responsible for their - defensive strucutre etc
Came down and did a few drills etc.

That carl jennings supposedly loves Wiki - so im sure he will play his part for the football team.

Clearly Bluey didnt setup the right structures in terms of the football dept.
prboably why they need a GM of football

 

[Rich102]

The Warriors will head into a new NRL campaign with high expectations, but new coach Matthew Elliott says it's too early to make pronouncements about how quickly they will bounce back from their disappointing 2012 season.
Elliott was appointed four weeks ago as successor to Brian McClennan, who departed before the end of his first year in the job after the 2011 grand finalists slid to near the foot of the table.
The former Canberra and Penrith coach met the Warriors' players as a group for the first time this week at the start of pre-season training.
At the moment, he's taking more of an observer's role to allow the conditioning staff to get their work done.
But he's enthusiastic about what he's seen and the support he has had.
At the same time, he didn't want to make any "grandiose statement" about the Warriors' fortunes next year.
"I'm not really well equipped to say that yet," he said today.
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"I've been here four days with the players."
However, Elliott added that he always preferred to take the view that every match is winnable, rather than the opposite one.
"If we lose the first game, there's still the possibility that we will win the next game," he said.
"We want to have high expectations. I don't see how that can hurt."
Elliott also said the appointment of the captain, a role held by Simon Mannering for the past three seasons, would be made after he had spent more time with the players.
"It will be an informed decision," he said.
Elliott has named one of his two assistants, New Zealand under-18 and Auckland Vulcans coach Ricky Henry.
He said his other assistant would be confirmed "soon".
Elliott admits it's been a "whirlwind" since his appointment.
"Obviously, I had to get staff and we had to look at what facilities to use," he said.
"There was a lot of logistical stuff to do initially, but I'm enjoying every second of it."
The short timeframe hadn't affected planning for the pre-season.
"If I was appointed two months before, we wouldn't be doing anything different than we are today," he said.
"While it intensified the amount of activity over a three or four-week period, we achieved the same stuff. I feel content."

http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-league-news/new-warriors-coach-likes-he-sees-5205281

 

[NZ Warrior]

Is anyone else already sick of hearing about the Warriors' pre season training???

Shut up and get on with it! I don't want to see them again until next year.

 

[Skinner]

Is anyone else already sick of hearing about the Warriors' pre season training???

Shut up and get on with it! I don't want to see them again until next year.

Amen Brother Wazz........sounds like spin to me anyways

 

[NIGHTMARE-HITTER]

Amen Brother Wazz........sounds like spin to me anyways

Yeah after the year we just had having one or two successful trainings where the boys are being flogged like roman soilders is like winning 2pts on the weekend.

Pretty sad the club has had to go into media overdrive promoting the fact we are finally catching up to other NRL clubs and having a proper coaching structure. Its great news don't get me wrong but makes you wonder.