Australia vs England: 1st Ashes Test in Brisbane Nov 25-29

[herbert henry1908]

All your quicks average approx 30 in first class cricket... not sure why they would inspire confidence, or any strong feelings about which one's are picked... Bollinger has a good test record having played about 10 tests... he'll regress to his career...

you clearly havent followed very closely.

Bollingers record in the last 5 years of FC cricket is outstanding. His first few years were very poor , therefore skewing his average.

His test record is a reflection of what he's been doing for 5 years now in FC cricket.

 

[JJ]

you clearly havent followed very closely.

Bollingers record in the last 5 years of FC cricket is outstanding. His first few years were very poor , therefore skewing his average.

His test record is a reflection of what he's been doing for 5 years now in FC cricket.

Well, it's Australian domestic cricket, so why would I give a sh*te?

But yeah, someone else has pointed that out - fair enough, he looks ok... no world beater though... if his fitness is dodgy he's a risk, but I'd have thought given you have Watson you could cover that...

 

[herbert henry1908]

Well, it's Australian domestic cricket, so why would I give a sh*te?

But yeah, someone else has pointed that out - fair enough, he looks ok... no world beater though... if his fitness is dodgy he's a risk, but I'd have thought given you have Watson you could cover that...

maybe , but you were commenting on his record with a fair bit of authority.

 

[yappy]

Bollinger's FC average is inflated by his early days. Up until 2007 he went for heaps. His first 79 wickets costing 43.15 each. Since the Australia A tour to Pakistan in 2007 though he has been a demon taking 151 FC wickets at 20.28. His low test average is likely to stay low for some time yet.

Siddle on the other hand had a great Shield in 07/08 where he took 33 wickets at 17.06. He had a good tour to SA where he took 13 at 23 and has the same figures for the two Shield games this season, but otherwise it's 30 or more every series. He is average and his record reflects the fact.

 

[JJ]

maybe , but you were commenting on his record with a fair bit of authority.

Touche... but, overall his record's not flash... neither are any of the other quicks in contention, while the spinners are flat out embarrassing...

meanwhile Mr Cricket has averaged 37 in the last 3 years or so (with a couple of centuries, I am staggered he's still in the test team), North just flat out averages 37...

Unless something drastic changes, England have to screw up royally to lose this (they are specialists at that sort of thing though)... your top 4 remain good... Haddin's ok, the rest are mediocre... so, yep, leaving out Bollinger is hard to understand

 

[yappy]

Touche... but, overall his record's not flash... neither are any of the other quicks in contention, while the spinners are flat out embarrassing...

meanwhile Mr Cricket has averaged 37 in the last 3 years or so (with a couple of centuries, I am staggered he's still in the test team), North just flat out averages 37...

Unless something drastic changes, England have to screw up royally to lose this (they are specialists at that sort of thing though)... your top 4 remain good... Haddin's ok, the rest are mediocre... so, yep, leaving out Bollinger is hard to understand

All true except for not including Doug as a good 'un. Like I said since 2007 he's been taking his fc wickets at 20 so having a low test average is no surprise and completely due to his ability. That makes 5 1/2 genuine test players out of the 11. Doug's name should have been engraved in gold on the sheet the selectors were given to write the team down.

Hilf is handy and I like him a lot, but I think he'll need to start taking bags of wickets or his place will deservedly come under question. I believe Copeland will take his spot within 12 months if he doesn't.

Johnson, well we all know he sprays em, and probably always will. When he gets it right he can be a match winner, but you have to go through a lot of crap in between. I'd have a fit Harris in front of him, but we all know he isn't going to get dropped.

Doherty - his last 23 fc wickets have come at 25.78 each which is pretty handy, but his record prior to that is awful and he isn't much use with the bat. O'Keefe has 37 wickets at 24.83 and averages over 50 batting at 8 with 4 50's and a 47 in 11 innings. If they wanted a left arm ortho bowler they picked the wrong one.

Paine is ready to come in for Haddin and we don't lose anything, and everyone and his dog knows that Hussey and North should have been dropped ages ago.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...est-at-the-gabba/story-e6frf3gl-1225959720338

Peter Siddle pips Doug Bollinger, Michael Clarke cleared for first Ashes Test: Have your say

• By Peter Lalor and staff writers
• FOX SPORTS
• November 24, 2010 1:51PM

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Australia captain Ricky Ponting confirms that Doug Bollinger has been pipped by Peter Siddle for the final seamers spot in the opening Ashes Test against England. Did the selectors get it right? Vote now and have your say.

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Ponting also confirmed Michael Clarke would definitely line up in the first Test against England at the Gabba after shrugging off lingering injury concerns in a confident net session on Wednesday.


Clarke has been under a cloud since aggravating his chronic back problem playing for NSW almost a fortnight ago but looked far more comfortable in the Gabba nets on match eve than during his 45-minute session on Tuesday.
While Clarke had said he'd have to wait to see how he pulled up on match morning, Ponting said there was no risk in playing the 29-year-old batsman.
"Michael Clarke has got through his work very well in the last couple of days,'' the skipper said.
"I'm not sure what the long term diagnosis is but I'm sure he'll get through this game.''
Bollinger was released from the 13-man squad along with Clarke's standby, Usman Khawaja, to head interstate to play a Sheffield Shield match for NSW after selectors swept Victoria Peter Siddle back into the bowling attack.
Siddle hasn't played Test cricket since January due to a stress fracture in his back but Ponting is a huge fan of his no-holds-barred seam bowling which will reap plenty of bounce on a juicy wicket.
Bollinger, who missed the second Test in the 2-0 series loss to India last month with a side strain, has 49 wickets from 11 Tests at an excellent average of 23.79, far superior to Siddle's record of 60 at 31.53 from 17 Tests.
Siddle will team with Mitchell Johnson and Ben Hilfenhaus, the attack which played all five Tests in last year's 2-1 Ashes series loss in England, as Australia's front-line quicks.
The presence and bowling form of allrounder Shane Watson meant there was little need for a fourth specialist quick, allowing for left-arm spinner Xavier Doherty to make his Test debut as one of three Tasmania players in the side.
Do you think the selectors have made the right decision?

F**KING HORSES**T

 

[lockyno1]

Ponting gets his mates in all the time, he always does.

 

[Collingwood Storm]

If Haddin gets injured who's next in line?

Matty Wade?

 

[umina panther]

If Haddin gets injured who's next in line?

Matty Wade?

id be giving gilly a call

 

[lockyno1]

If Haddin gets injured who's next in line?

Matty Wade?

Manou or Hartley. We don't need any more useless Victorians please!

 

[meatloaf]

If Haddin gets injured who's next in line?

Matty Wade?

Tim Paine no doubt

 

[snoozer]

oh dear.....

i'm now laughing uncontrollably(sort of like someone with post traumatic stress disorder).

 

[lockyno1]

Tim Paine no doubt

Wish it was, but he is injured for 5 weeks with a smashed finger.

 

[yappy]

you would think Manou would be the stop gap until Paine is ok.

 

[aussies1st]

I'd take Wade hes one of the few Victorians that actually deserves selection.

 

[lockyno1]

Not in 4 day cricket he isn't- well not this season. He drops catches and is in REALLY poor form with the bat.

Manou or Hartley, never thought I'd say this..but Haddin better stay fit till this series is over.

 

[Twizzle]

Bollinger, who missed the second Test in the 2-0 series loss to India last month with a side strain, has 49 wickets from 11 Tests at an excellent average of 23.79, far superior to Siddle's record of 60 at 31.53 from 17 Tests.

So Punter is responsible for this selection by the sound of it, likes his attitude ect. You'd think things like his far superior record would be more important.

f**king ridiculous.

 

[aussies1st]

His form is pretty much the same as Manou or Hartley this season.
Wade 237 at 34, 7 innings
Manou 137 at 34, 5 innings
Hartley 115 at 38, 5 innings

I'd prefer going with a youngster rather than a guy in his late 20s.

 

[lockyno1]

Has scored nothing in the last 2 games, whereas Manou has just scored a big hundred, and Hartley is better behind the stumps. Wade makes Germaint Jones positively brilliant behind the stumps!