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Autumn 2016

Horrie Is God

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http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=16713624&category=0

Diamond Jubilee most likely goal for Vancouver

BY GRAHAM DENCH 7:00PM 9 MAY 2016

Last year's Champion Australian two-year-old Vancouver faces a race against time if he is to be seen to advantage in his brief stay in Europe this summer, but Aidan O'Brien hopes he might well have the class to cope.

The Golden Slipper winner, described by O'Brien as "a powerhouse" and "massive", has been at Ballydoyle only around seven weeks and has to go into quarantine in preparation for his return to Australia just 24 hours after the Darley July Cup. However, if all goes well he will have three races while under O'Brien's care.

Although a three-year-old in southern hemisphere terms, Vancouver has to race in the northern hemisphere as a four-year-old. He is entered over a range of distances at Royal Ascot, from five furlongs to ten furlongs, but O'Brien is leaning heavily towards the 6f Diamond Jubilee Stakes as his target there, followed by the July Cup.

"He's very exciting, very quick and the Diamond Jubilee is his most likely race at Ascot," said O'Brien on Monday, when hosting a media visit to his Ballydoyle yard.

'He has to have a race'

Vancouver is due to make his debut for O'Brien in the Greenlands Stakes at the Curragh a week on Saturday, although he will be by no means wound up.

O'Brien added: "He's only really ready for a racecourse gallop, but he has to have a race so that we can learn about him. If he doesn't have a race before Ascot we won't know how we should ride him. Everyone has to be prepared for him to get beat there. What we're asking of him is next to impossible. But maybe he's good enough."

Melbourne Cup goal for Bondi Beach

Australia might also feature in Bondi Beach's year as connections are eyeing a tit at the Emirates Melbourne Cup.

O'Brien said: "Bondi Beach is not a definite for the Yorkshire Cup this Friday and could go to Navan on Sunday instead. His long-term target is the Melbourne Cup."

Order Of St George is likely to be aimed at the Gold Cup, for which he is 5-2 favourite, but Royal Ascot is likely to come to soon for Kingfisher, who, O'Brien reported had suffered a setback.

While O'Brien's three-year-old colts and fillies are hogging most headlines, with Epsom approaching, he also has several other leading older horses and said that Highland Reel, who has run overseas on his last four starts, could contest the Investec Coronation Cup next month, as could Found, though she first has the Tattersalls Gold Cup on her agenda, with the Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe the big target for her later in the year.
 

WaznTheGreat

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Looking forward to seeing Vancouver in action shortly over there,very interesting,he's a very good horse,i think English,Speak Fondly and Exosphere have come out of that Slipper and won group1 races,seems a decent edition of the Slipper,even Furnaces is a pretty decent horse who was in that Slipper,won nicely the other week.
 

Lemon Squash

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Gut feeling is he will plod over there like Sepoy.

He was a serious 2yo colt but I just don't think he came up in his 3yo year - Could be Sebring v2

Hasn't raced for over a year, I think he will have other thoughts on his mind.

Will be interesting to see anyways.
 

Lemon Squash

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O'Brien will need to get it back in form, because that San Domenico run was poor..

I actually think he ran OK in that race, got beaten 2 lengths by Japonisme giving it weight and looking back that form has turned out pretty solid.

My concern was his trial after that race, went disgraceful and that's when Gai pulled the pin, and we all know she has the rep of pushing horses when they are over the hill so there must have been some serious dramas going on with him.
 

Horrie Is God

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First Frankel runs friday night..

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd

First Frankel offspring entered on Friday

BY DAVID MILNES 10:10AM 9 MAY 2016

HISTORY appears set to take place at Newbury on Friday where John Gosden's Cunco is entered to make his debut, in turn looking likely to become the first offspring of Frankel to visit the track.

Much of the feedback about the Frankels, both at the sales and in training, is that generally he has not yet stamped his stock and they come in all shapes and sizes.

Although Frankel himself made his debut in August of his second year, many of his sons and daughters could take longer to appear, and those more forward will be seen over seven furlongs-plus, though Cunco's intended debut on Friday will be one of interest for many racing professionals, most notably Teddy Grimthorpe.

Grimthorpe, racing manager to Frankel's owner-breeder Khalid Abdullah, said: "It's time for the talking to stop for Frankel. It's no good for me to keep saying what a great stallion he is and how fantastic his two-year-olds are - which they are by the way - as they have to do it on the track.

"Hopefully we'll see some nice ones this summer as there are plenty about. We have many homebreds by him but nothing to run just yet. Hopefully we'll see some nice ones later on."

Gosden has a clutch of mainly colts by Frankel, and Cunco, a son of Chrysanthemum who was the very first born, has been seen in action on the Limekilns in Newmarket.
 

Horrie Is God

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No Derby for Minding by the looks of it..

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd

O'Brien: Don't dismiss US Army Ranger

BY GRAHAM DENCH 9:34AM 9 MAY 2016

AIDAN O'BRIEN has given his full backing to Investec Derby hope US Army Ranger following his narrow MBNA Chester Vase victory, insisting pundits are wrong to knock the son of Galileo.

US Army Ranger, a general 5-1 chance for the Epsom feature, beat stablemate Port Douglas by a short head in the Group 3 contest last week, with many racing professionals left unimpressed.

However, Ireland's champion Flat trainer was "very happy" with the performance, arguing US Army Ranger would have been a near eight-length winner if he had not run Port Douglas in the race.

O'Brien said: "Everyone is knocking this horse, but they shouldn't be. I was very happy with his win at Chester as most the time we have one horse that everyone latches on to but not this year.

"If we hadn't have ran Port Douglas at Chester, US Army Ranger would have been an eight-length winner and would be a very short price for the Derby."

Open to most improvement

O'Brien is convinced US Army Ranger is his Epsom Classic contender open to the most improvement and is hoping he will be able handle the hustle and bustle of Derby day.

O'Brien said: "At Chester he would have learned more in one race than he would in two or three races elsewhere. That is the benefit of taking horses over there.

"He's the horse that's open to the most improvement of my possible Derby contenders - I'm just hoping he's not too babyish and will be able to take it."
 

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http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd

O'Brien still open minded on Derby team

BY JON LEES 8:00AM 9 MAY 2016

AFTER a week of trials and Wednesday's Betfred Dante Stakes at York to come, US Army Ranger is Ballydoyle's shortest-priced Investec Derby candidate but Aidan O'Brien has not yet definitively identified his team.

The Gurkha, another possible Derby contender who is as short as 12-1 for the Epsom Classic, is an intended runner in next Sunday's Poule d'Essai des Poulains at Deauville as O'Brien seeks to finalise plans in the coming weeks.

O'Brien has won the Epsom feature five times since the turn of the millennium, most recently with Australia two years ago, and is hopeful his team will "come on a lot" for their recent outings.

'There are a lot of different combinations'

O'Brien said: "They've been trained for trials so they've all got as good an education as we can give them. They will come on a lot.

"There are a lot of different combinations who could go to Epsom. They all ran in their trials, they have an easy time and then their preparation and build-up will start. That will tell us what has come forward and what has stood still.

"Hopefully the picture will become clearer as we go along. There are a lot of horses there who are very legitimate and deserve to run."

'He was very babyish'

Last week's Group 3 MBNA Chester Vase scorer US Army Ranger is now a general 5-1 chance for the Derby with Ireland's champion Flat trainer believing the son of Galileo will have benefited significantly from the experience, indicating his work will give connections an idea as to his chances of landing the £751,407 prize at Epsom.

O'Brien said: "We knew we had to go to Chester if US Army Ranger was going to run in the Derby. Before the race he was very babyish, he was whinnying and the moment he pulled up he was still whinnying.

"What will tell a lot with him is when he comes back and starts working with an eye to the Epsom Derby. That will tell us how much he has learned and how much he has come on."
 

WaznTheGreat

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Gut feeling is he will plod over there like Sepoy.

He was a serious 2yo colt but I just don't think he came up in his 3yo year - Could be Sebring v2

Hasn't raced for over a year, I think he will have other thoughts on his mind.

Will be interesting to see anyways.

Will be interesting if Aiden o brien can get Vancouver back on track,he had success with Haradasun,Starspangledbanner and So You Think but all those horses did go over there in good form tbh.
 

Lemon Squash

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Just read Peeping died of Colic overnight

Shattering for connections, she was really just entering the elite level of mares think she had a few more big races in her.
 

Horrie Is God

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Will be interesting if Aiden o brien can get Vancouver back on track,he had success with Haradasun,Starspangledbanner and So You Think but all those horses did go over there in good form tbh.

Yep all 3 of them won Group 1's as a 3yo..

Just read Peeping died of Colic overnight

Shattering for connections, she was really just entering the elite level of mares think she had a few more big races in her.

Vale Peeping..:(
 

Horrie Is God

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3 weeks out from the Epsom Derby and here is how the Racing Post sees the race..

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=16887424&category=0

The Derby: Who runs? Who doesn't? Who wins?

BY MARK SCULLY 5:00PM 15 MAY 2016

THE DERBY is less than three weeks away but one significant question remains: who exactly is going to line up in the world's most prestigious Flat race?

A look at the ante-post market only serves to add to the confusion, with the unusual situation of a filly who is seemingly highly unlikely to run holding favouritism.

It is all very messy, so with the major trials (and perhaps the DNA tests) now done and dusted, where exactly do we stand with Epsom looming ever larger on the horizon?

The Likely Lads

US Army Ranger
Best price - 9-2
Aidan O'Brien's record in the Derby means he simply must be respected and it seemed (at least until Sunday afternoon) his leading candidate remains US Army Ranger, despite a less than convincing victory in the Chester Vase.

At a recent press event, O'Brien made a staunch defence of the horse, saying: "Everyone is knocking this horse, but they shouldn't be.

"I was very happy with his win at Chester as most the time we have one horse that everyone latches on to but not this year."

Wings Of Desire
Best price - 9-2
Shorter in some places than US Army Ranger, plenty of racing fans will not have heard of Wings Of Desire until recently but he introduced himself in style with a taking win in last week's Dante.

The York showpiece has established itself as the leading trial for the Derby and Wings Of Desire's trainer, John Gosden, claimed it en route to Epsom glory with Golden Horn 12 months ago.

Like Golden Horn, Wings Of Desire will have to be supplemented for the not inconsiderable sum of £75,000 but Gosden gave the impression that was a formality in his post-race interviews at York.

Moonlight Magic
Best price - 12-1
Moonlight Magic put his hand up with a win in the Group 3 Derrinstown Stud Derby Trial Stakes and jockey Kevin Manning certainly fancies his chances.

Beaten only once in four starts, Moonlight Magic was a high-class juvenile and has the breeding to get the Derby trip, being by Cape Cross, the sire of last year's winner Golden Horn. His dam, Melikah, finished second in the 2000 Irish Oaks.

"The other Derby contenders have been an even bunch this year," Manning said. "We can go there now anyway and I don't fear anything else in the race."

Humphrey Bogart
Best price - 33-1
Another in the seemingly endless list of runners who will need to be supplemented is Humphrey Bogart, whose trainer Richard Hannon has argued trial races should carry a 'win and you're in' prize to boost competition.

He would clearly have to take a big step forward to win at Epsom but, as the cliche goes, there is only one Derby and owners Chelsea Thoroughbreds have signalled their intention to roll the dice.

Under consideration

Galileo Gold
Best price - 5-1 (with a run)
He was in, then out, then maybe back in again. We know the 2,000 Guineas winner will head to the Curragh for the Irish 2,000 Guineas but after that, who knows?

Hugo Palmer appeared to rule out the Derby after a genetic test suggested the son of Paco Boy would not be suited by racing over 1m4f, but owner Sheikh Joaan Al Thani has asked his trainer to keep his colt in the race.

The Gurkha
Best price - 6-1
Listen, the lads have got plenty of thinking to do. The Gurkha did not have to fight very hard to win the Poule d'Essai des Poulains on Sunday and did so in eyecatching fashion.

Trainer Aidan O'Brien did not want to commit to Epsom in the immediate aftermath of the Deauville demolition and says the decision will be left to co-owners, Messrs Tabor, Smith and Magnier.

Like Wings Of Desire, The Gurkha is fairly new on the scene and only broke his maiden at Navan in April.

Port Douglas
Best price - 16-1
There are plenty who will tell you Port Douglas should have won the Chester Vase, but whatever your view his proximity to US Army Ranger that day puts him squarely in contention for the Derby.

Port Douglas is among a host of potential runners for O'Brien and company, with the likes of Shogun and Deauville also in contention for a trip to Epsom. However the trainer opts to shuffle his cards, it is certain O'Brien will be substantially represented on the day.

Midterm
Best price - 20-1
Oh how things have changed for Midterm. As many of his market rivals failed to impress in their trial races, the Sandown Classic Trial winner gradually made his way to the head of the market.

The Sir Michael Stoute-trained colt headed to York looking to confirm his promise but did quite the opposite and could manage only fifth behind Wings Of Desire. Whether Midterm will line up in the Derby on the back of such a disappointing outing remains to be seen.

Viren's Army
Best price - 25-1
Humphrey Bogart may not be Richard Hannon's only runner in the race but like him, Viren's Army would also need to be supplemented after coming out on top in a thrilling Listed Dee Stakes at Chester.

There has to be a question about his ability to get the 1m4f and perhaps a race like the Tercentenary Stakes at Royal Ascot next month would be more appropriate.

Linguistic (best price 33-1) was beaten a short head in the Dee could also be supplemented by Godolphin.

Cloth Of Stars
Best price - 10-1
Perhaps the most impressive trial winner was Godolphin's Andre Fabre-trained Cloth Of Stars, who won the Group 2 Prix Greffulhe at Saint-Cloud from Group 1-winner Robin of Navan.

He recorded an RPR of 113 and would need to be supplemented but Andre Fabre has gone on record as saying 1m4f and a strong pace would play into his hands.

Going elsewhere

Minding
Best price - 3-1 (with a run)
She might be favourite but the chances of Minding actually taking on the boys seem remote and Aidan O'Brien has said nothing to suggest she will run anywhere other than the Oaks 24 hours earlier.

So Mi Dar
Best price - 5-1 (with a run)
It says a lot about the lack of a stand-out colt that another filly is so prominent in the betting for the Derby but like Minding, connections do not seem remotely interested in anything other than the Oaks.

Who is going to win?

The bare form of Wings Of Desire's Dante success might not prove anything out of the ordinary but the fact the son of Pivotal was able to win having only started serious homework in March is impressive.

It was also clear to see how excited John Gosden was in the aftermath of that win and it is hard to recall him being so animated about Golden Horn at the same stage.

Wings Of Desire will have come on significantly for his York outing and will doubtless have learned a lot too. If he can overcome his immaturity and handles the unique challenges Epsom presents, he could take a lot of beating.
 

Horrie Is God

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There is a Foxwedge running in Race 2 at Carlisle tonight (11.30).. also an Excelebration in the same race (not sure if it's his first runner or not)..

Foxwedge had a winner in America on the dirt too, and with Ward training it we'll probably see it at Royal Ascot..

http://www.breednet.com.au/news/123151/Foxwedge-Winner-at-Belmont

Foxwedge Winner at Belmont

Tara Madgwick - Friday, 20 May 2016

Scoring a resounding debut victory at Belmont in New York overnight was speedy Foxwedge colt Star Empire, who runs for Australian owner breeder Mrs Belinda Bateman, who also raced his sire Foxwedge with her late husband Dr Edmund Bateman.

A 40,000 guinea purchase from the Tattersalls Foal Sale in 2014 for De Burgh Equine/ James Harron Bloodstock, Star Empire is trained by Wesley Ward.

He showed brilliant speed from the gates to race up and share the lead before dashing clear on turning for home.

Star Empire powered to the line to win the $100,000 five furlong juvenile maiden on the dirt by six and a half lengths. Watch the race here.

"Obviously the late Edmund Bateman raced Foxwedge with his wife Belinda, and was keen to give him every chance in the Northern Hemisphere," explained James Harron.

"As part of that mission and working closely with Hubie de Burgh we secured three Foxwedge colts as foals at Tattersalls in 2014 for the Bateman family and sent them to Wesley Ward, with the pipe dream that one of them might make it to Royal Ascot, where Wesley obviously has such a strong record.

" As such it is very pleasing to see Star Empire make such a promising start to his career, and a trip to Royal Ascot will now be under strong consideration providing he comes through the run well."

Star Empire is the third winner for Celestial Empire, an unraced US bred Empire Maker mare from the family of Group I winners Golden Ticket, Well Chosen and Telling.

A Group I winning son of Fastnet Rock, the Newgate Farm based Foxwedge has sired seven winners in total, three in Australia, two in New Zealand and now one each in the UK and the US.

Foxwedge stands at a fee of $22,000 this spring.
 

Lemon Squash

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What a run by the Prince! First up since the cup, 4 wide the trip in a slowly run race, came 8 wide round the turn and charged home beaten a long neck

Weir is a freak :cool:

Alplod Eagle is shot imo, did nothing. Had massive hopes for this horse thought it one right out of the box.
 

WaznTheGreat

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What a run by the Prince! First up since the cup, 4 wide the trip in a slowly run race, came 8 wide round the turn and charged home beaten a long neck

Weir is a freak :cool:

Alplod Eagle is shot imo, did nothing. Had massive hopes for this horse thought it one right out of the box.

:cool:Beast
 
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