Backrow rotations!

[StormHi]

And there are plenty of 30+ year olds who are killing it atm and there have been a ton of 34+ Fowards who have had close to their best success in their latter years. Do a search and see what you come up with.

What I said.....

Can you please learn to read and I also said men from the age of 30-38 are in their physical and Mental peak.

 

[DoggiesBro]

sounds familiar with Morris situation lol

Was my point when i saw you said it

 

[StormHi]

They both did not deserve their positions then?

Seriously tho what do we all think of the Storm Backrow I think it's a good mix of youth, Size,Skill and experience not overwhelmingly amazing and could use a bit more depth but IMO it's a big improvment to 2011 backrow.

 

[DoggiesBro]

fui would actually probably be handy in the backrow aye

LOL, i'm sure most props would go well in the backrow.

My point still stands that idiot dribbles crap, there are no such thing as a bloke who has been round the nrl for 7 years, 3 different clubs, that are yet to peak at 30 and are a star in the making.

The other funny thing is given the circumstances that a bloke is 30, yet to peak but a star in the making. How many blokes like that have gone on to kill it till 38? hell 36? 35? 34? f**k ALL

A few props will continue to push for the early 30's e.g Petro, Price, Wiki etc but very few star backrowers are killing it still at 34 or so. Hindmarsh, Ryan are prime examples of current days. The other thing with these names are they have all been stars for a long chunk of their career. Reni has had a outstanding career while at the dogs, lost the plot, ruined chance at sharks and now will be a good player for the eels. However he is hardly going to push on for 3-4 years and become a star. He has peaked and if he can get back to that he will be a good player for the eels for a couple years, won't become a star to mid 30's.

 

[StormHi]

Diddnt realise 35 was the early 30's? Maths please...... is 35 closer to 29 then 40??

And I belive his best is yet to come doesnt have to be amazing for 10 years or more just better then he was in his early days.

And why not weirder things have happened.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Storm seem to get a lot out of their forwards, even when they have been average at other clubs. Having a spine with Smith, Cronk and Slater, sure makes it easier on the forward pack then many other clubs. Do your job and then stay the f&*k out of the way and let us do our magic. You lot are spoilt with that spine.

 

[RWB]

Storm seem to get a lot out of their forwards, even when they have been average at other clubs. Having a spine with Smith, Cronk and Slater, sure makes it easier on the forward pack then many other clubs. Do your job and then stay the f&*k out of the way and let us do our magic. You lot are spoilt with that spine.

Smith's a great organiser, forwards would be stupid to stay out of his way... he's awesome at controlling their sets and telling the forwards where to run making them look twice the players they are.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Smith's a great organiser, forwards would be stupid to stay out of his way... he's awesome at controlling their sets and telling the forwards where to run making them look twice the players they are.

I was referring more to when they want to spread the ball and use their back line or Slater chimes in. Great to watch. Then I get to watch our back rowers being everywhere because we have had a shit back line and f**k all organiser since the gnome left.

 

[Big Pete]

Dunno about that. He won a comp at the Dogs, then went to Penrith and won another comp. Penrith got rid of him amid a raft of gambling related innuendo, and the Roosters picked him up, despite Jack Gibson's warning "If he's so good why are the other mob trying to get rid of him" Gus stayed in some capacity at the roosters for over a very sucessful decade.

By the look of the Panthers pack, they are going to create lots of boom up and comers if they are to be sucessful. maybe that's the point.


So sayeth the one who knows all.

Sweet f*ck all, that is.

I was thinking in regards to recent history. Wasn't Gus apart of Souths readmission and then he left them mid-way through their season? I heard about that somewhere. Not to mention, through out 2002-04 he kept constantly threatening to walk away from the job at the slightest hint of difficulty.

RWB - I'm surprised Melbourne weren't apart of your bottom 5 backrows. I know they'll end up being better than bottom 5 thanks to Smith but on paper they look mighty ordinary.

Sika Manu - A favourite of mine but has issues staying on the field.
Kevin Proctor
Ryan Hoffman - Dane Carlaw mk 2
Todd Lowrie
Ryan Hinchcliffe
Rory Kostjasyn
Tohu Harris
Kenneath Bromwich

 

[RWB]

I was thinking in regards to recent history. Wasn't Gus apart of Souths readmission and then he left them mid-way through their season? I heard about that somewhere. Not to mention, through out 2002-04 he kept constantly threatening to walk away from the job at the slightest hint of difficulty.

RWB - I'm surprised Melbourne weren't apart of your bottom 5 backrows. I know they'll end up being better than bottom 5 thanks to Smith but on paper they look mighty ordinary.

Sika Manu - A favourite of mine but has issues staying on the field.
Kevin Proctor
Ryan Hoffman - Dane Carlaw mk 2
Todd Lowrie
Ryan Hinchcliffe
Rory Kostjasyn
Tohu Harris
Kenneath Bromwich

They're just really well balanced and you know what you're going to get (A storm trait). Manu is a great power runner, Hoffman is great hole runner and Hinchliffe is a great toiler and they're all really solid defenders. Lowrie & Proctor are decent options off the bench and Bromwich is a gun in the waiting. You're right though an injury to Manu (which I guess is almost inevitable) and it's one of the worst.

 

[Big Pete]

I don't think Hoffman has been a great hole runner for some time now. Perhaps since 2008. Proctor is looking very strong in that position though. He's still a bit raw and needs to involve himself more but if last season was a sign I believe he could have a big future infront of him.

I don't rate Hinchcliffe that highly either. A handy utility player, nothing more.

Then again, I'm speaking purely on paper. Smith will make them all look like Origin players.

 

[Eelementary]

Ben smith is easily the worst player in the nrl who has consistently played first grade for more then 5 years

How is he worse than Daniel Fitzhenry, Jason Moodie, Darren Treacy or even Michael Vella?

Ben Smith is not flashy, and he is not a great attacker. But he makes a tonne of tackles, hits hard in defence and never shies away from running the ball, even if his impact is so-so ball in hand.

 

[natheel]

Storm can make a shit front row look great. No matter who is in their pack they always go well

 

[Big Pete]

The thing is last season when push really came to shove for Melbourne and the superstars couldn't fire they had absolutely nothing in the forward pack to save them. This was particularly evident in the Prelim.

 

[DoggiesBro]

The thing is last season when push really came to shove for Melbourne and the superstars couldn't fire they had absolutely nothing in the forward pack to save them. This was particularly evident in the Prelim.

Completely agree, now they are under the cap the big 3 can't carry them.

Will be even worse now losing Blair and adding powderpuff hoffman.

Besides Manu who is injury proned and Bromwhich their pack is garbage.

Proctor & Hincliffe are solid players but no where near enough to fight it against a top team.

 

[Kiwi]

As are Manly's 11-13.

I honestly think you could probably argue with some success for the starting 3 backrowers at half a dozen clubs as being the best. Where the Broncos are ahead is the fact that they have the likes of Te'o and Gillett on the bench who as mentioned would start in most packs and are certainly better than any bench back rowers at any other club by a fair margin.

 

[StormHi]

Love how doggies bro copies a post but with terrible spelling.

I think my views on storms back row pretty Much mirrors everyone else's but I think the experience and confidence Hoffman brings will be invaluable to the young guys and on what planet is he a powder puff..?? Never saw him once take a backward step in origin or any other arena for that matter a pretty tough hombre in my opinion I remember him copping some monster hits in origin and not once see him take a backward step ( unlike that skirt Creagh.... That fairy Gif never gets old) In fact I always thought him and Dallas Johnson where cut from the same cloth both honest hard toilers in thankless positions punching way above their weight.

 

[natheel]

Dallas is light years ahead of Hoffman in terms of toughness.

Hindy and Dallas are very similar

Hoffman is an honest hard player but will be interested to see how he goes after a year away.

I liked him when he was here last time and yes never shirked his origin duties unlike some players who get picked

 

[DoggiesBro]

Dallas is light years ahead of Hoffman in terms of toughness.

Hindy and Dallas are very similar

Hoffman is an honest hard player but will be interested to see how he goes after a year away.

I liked him when he was here last time and yes never shirked his origin duties unlike some players who get picked

LOL which idiot compared hoffman to johnson?

Not even close. Hoffman is more like Ben Creagh, cry baby bitch.

Johnson, Hindy, Stagg are all similar.

 

[natheel]

LOL which idiot compared hoffman to johnson?

Not even close. Hoffman is more like Ben Creagh, cry baby bitch.

Johnson, Hindy, Stagg are all similar.

Stormhi said 'Johnson and Hoffman were cut from the same cloth'

I think putting Hoffman and creagh in the same sentence isn't right either


I liked Hoffman when he played for NSW at least he stood up to be counted for NSW. Unlike creagh deadset I dunno how he keeps getting picked