Bagging League

[taipan]

I would assume in rugby league there is actually 3 tiers,NRL which is a ratings winner,SOO which is a ratings winner and internationals which do very well in the ratings.To say that in effect rugby league internationals are ignored is wrong.Even one side tests draw the TV viewers and reasonable crowds.

Good point taipan but my answer to this is that union has the tri nations which is similar to the state of origin, which is an annual event separate from its considerable international program.

Mate I would classify tri series as rugby union internationals as part of the test structure.The SOO would only be comparable to a series involving the Reds and the Waratahs.tests are tests are tests and neither the twain shall meet ;-) sounds a bit like Shakespeare whatever. :roll:

 

[rugged]

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[Moffo]

u :roll:

:lol:

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

 

[Timbo]

u :roll:

:lol:

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

As far as crowds, sponsors, etc. S12's closest comparisom is NRL.

Club union is more comprable to JB Cup or something.

However the 'National Club Competition' which is constantly being talked up could make it a more direct comparisom.

 

[rugged]

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

I am from QLD and here club rugby has more in common with the QLD cup.

The Broncos are very similar to the Reds.

Just because rugby's premier competition in Australia includes other countries (and so does the NRL) doesn't mean to say it isn't our premier competition.

 

[Twizzle]

I find some of these so called arguments quite laughable.

I often think that we are such an incredible sporting nation, that we can hold the world cup in League, Union, Cricket and many other sports, yet rather than unite, we find reasons to argue.

Like my dad can beat up your dad.

Primary school stuff.

I for one am pround of our Rugby Union achievements. Its not my game of choice, but thats no reason to hang shit on it.

If we are playing an international game, I never miss it. I watch the Waratahs when I can, but not always.

What I find so amazing about Aussie achievements in League and Union, is that the whole counrty is represented by two states, NSW and Qld, which is about half of the counrty, yet we still achieve so much.

I enjoy watching a good game of Union.

If you dont like it, dont watch it.

 

[Brutus]

No. Super 12 is a state based competition in Australia. The waratahs are a state team. You can't compare that to the NRL. S12 teams in Australia are contracted to the national body

And there are 1million more differences. Can't do that

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You can't expect the public to be interested in more than 2 tiers of a game. Cricket has international and state based, the rest is ignored. Rugby League has NRL and state of origin that anyone cares about. Rugby union has international and Super 12. Super 12 is not a rep level. They are teams that play in rugby union's top level in Australia. It's just the way it is. If we didn't have Super 12 we'd have a national comp like League and that would be big because we wouldn't have Super 12.

don't delude yourself into thinking a national club rugby competition would be successful. The Waratahs represent a whole state yet can only sellout Aussie Stadium once or twice out of five or six home games a year. Queensland crowds got as low as 10-12,000 last season.

The interest just wouldn't be there for a national rugby comp. i couldn't imagine a national comp consisting of any more than 2 or 3 teams from nsw because the interest just wouldn't be there. same with qld. union in australia is lucky the sa and nz teams are involved in super 12 to raise the quality. even with them there is no free to air coverage of the matches which is a big indicator of mainstream appeal.

If the waratahs were so popular surley there would be a demand for at least one or two of their bigger games to be shown on commercial tv. same with the reds.

 

[Brutus]

u :roll:

:lol:

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

i agree. just because club rugby is so unpopular doesn't mean it can't be compared to nrl. there are 10 teams representing areas from the hunter down to the gong in league and the same goes with club rugby.

they are all clubs

 

[Brutus]

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

I am from QLD and here club rugby has more in common with the QLD cup.

The Broncos are very similar to the Reds.

Just because rugby's premier competition in Australia includes other countries (and so does the NRL) doesn't mean to say it isn't our premier competition.

so australia's premier club rugby comp can only manage 3 teams (soon to be 4). and australia's premier club league comp can manage 14 teams (soon to be 15).

 

[Brutus]

I find some of these so called arguments quite laughable.


What I find so amazing about Aussie achievements in League and Union, is that the whole counrty is represented by two states, NSW and Qld, which is about half of the counrty, yet we still achieve so much.

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Australia's achievements prove the lack of depth internationally for both codes.

 

[Moffo]

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

I am from QLD and here club rugby has more in common with the QLD cup.

The Broncos are very similar to the Reds.

Just because rugby's premier competition in Australia includes other countries (and so does the NRL) doesn't mean to say it isn't our premier competition.

Except that the Broncos would have exponentially more fans then the Reds in QLD. And the Broncos only represent one city in QLD, the Reds represent the whole state

 

[Thomas]

Yeah, same for swimming hey. Aussies are good at swimming because no one else is. :roll:

Same with cricket, Brutus?

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

u :roll:

:lol:

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

Yes and Brisbane represent a major city in Queensland the same for Melbourne .
Then there's that International club called the New Zealand Warriors .

Now Ranwick is a suburb in Sydney and yet Sydney City has about four times the population .

The size of Brisbane, Melbourne and New Zealand Warriors are all bigger than Otago Highlanders and Waikato Chiefs .

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

I am from QLD and here club rugby has more in common with the QLD cup.

The Broncos are very similar to the Reds.

Just because rugby's premier competition in Australia includes other countries (and so does the NRL) doesn't mean to say it isn't our premier competition.

Except that the Broncos would have exponentially more fans then the Reds in QLD. And the Broncos only represent one city in QLD, the Reds represent the whole state

Auckland represent only one city in NZ . And the Warriors represent the whole country .

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

I am from QLD and here club rugby has more in common with the QLD cup.

The Broncos are very similar to the Reds.

Just because rugby's premier competition in Australia includes other countries (and so does the NRL) doesn't mean to say it isn't our premier competition.

so australia's premier club rugby comp can only manage 3 teams (soon to be 4). and australia's premier club league comp can manage 14 teams (soon to be 15).

Yes Brutus and whats wrong with that ? NZ league can only manage one team . And NZ rugby has over 20 .

 

[Moffo]

NZ have only one league team do they?? lol

Your point about Randwick is silly

 

[rugged]

If we didn't have Super 12 we'd have a national comp like League and that would be big because we wouldn't have Super 12.


don't delude yourself into thinking a national club rugby competition would be successful.

Can you read at all? I said if rugby DIDN'T have the super 12 they'd have a big national comp like league.

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

NZ have only one league team do they?? lol

Your point about Randwick is silly

Sorry I forgot about Otago, Canterbury and Wellington rugby league playing in the NRL .

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

NZ have only one league team do they?? lol

Your point about Randwick is silly

Please tell me the different between Randwick and New Zealand Warriors ?

 

[Moffo]

Did you say NRL?


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