Bagging League

[Moffo]

NZ have only one league team do they?? lol

Your point about Randwick is silly

Please tell me the different between Randwick and New Zealand Warriors ?

If you can't work that out for yourself than I'd say your a lost cause

 

[rugged]

The fact that the NRL has suburbs in its national comp says more about the pathetic Sydneycentric organisation of the comp and why it can never be a proper national comp while it has states and countries against suburbs.

 

[zulu]

Hold on, Randwick represent a suburb in Sydney. Parramatta represent a suburb in Sydney

One plays league, one plays union. How are they different? They are both club competitions. You can't compare NRL to s12 because s12 is a competition where the great majority of teams are from overseas

I am from QLD and here club rugby has more in common with the QLD cup.

The Broncos are very similar to the Reds.

Just because rugby's premier competition in Australia includes other countries (and so does the NRL) doesn't mean to say it isn't our premier competition.

so australia's premier club rugby comp can only manage 3 teams (soon to be 4). and australia's premier club league comp can manage 14 teams (soon to be 15).

Yes Brutus and whats wrong with that ? NZ league can only manage one team . And NZ rugby has over 20 .

That's because union is streets ahead of league in terms of support over there. In Australia, it's the other way around where union could not realistically have any more than a couple of teams in a major national comp. The support just isn't there.

 

[zulu]

The fact that the NRL has suburbs in its national comp says more about the pathetic Sydneycentric organisation of the comp and why it can never be a proper national comp while it has states and countries against suburbs.

Well what do have to say about the AFL then? I see a few suburban teams playing in that comp and it just happens to be the number one comp in the country.

Anyway if Wellington or the Southern Orcas are ever introduced into the NRL, the Warriors won't be perceived as a 'country'.

 

[rugged]

rugged wrote:
The fact that the NRL has suburbs in its national comp says more about the pathetic Sydneycentric organisation of the comp and why it can never be a proper national comp while it has states and countries against suburbs.


Well what do have to say about the AFL then? I see a few suburban teams playing in that comp and it just happens to be the number one comp in the country.

That's not the ideal situation either.

 

[zulu]

rugged wrote:
The fact that the NRL has suburbs in its national comp says more about the pathetic Sydneycentric organisation of the comp and why it can never be a proper national comp while it has states and countries against suburbs.


Well what do have to say about the AFL then? I see a few suburban teams playing in that comp and it just happens to be the number one comp in the country.

That's not the ideal situation either.

Try telling an AFL fan that.

I don't think union people should be telling AFL and league fans just what is ideal with regards to a national domestic competition. Especially Australian ru fans.

 

[bayrep]

Union people arent telling League/AFL people how to run their code. Union fans are defending a national/club/s12 comp in Aus. Infact your the first person to even bring up AFL!!!!

 

[ozbash]

Club union is more comprable to JB Cup or something.

how can you compare the poor ( well, you lot reckon its poor) standard of sydney club rugby to the international game.
sydney club rugby is nothing in relation to the overall picture.

so australia's premier club rugby comp can only manage 3 teams (soon to be 4). and australia's premier club league comp can manage 14 teams (soon to be 15).

and how many of those 14- soon to be 15 are relocates or clubs given a seconed chance.
face it, sydney fans ( of either code) couldnt give a shit about sport, they only care for the glory.

If the waratahs were so popular surley there would be a demand for at least one or two of their bigger games to be shown on commercial tv.

say no more, i believe the warrahtahs are probably more popular in nz than nsw, because we like playing them. nsw fans are weak and pathetic.

 

[ozbash]

The fact that the NRL has suburbs in its national comp says more about the pathetic Sydneycentric organisation of the comp and why it can never be a proper national comp while it has states and countries against suburbs.

i,d vote for you.

 

[Copa]

The fact that the NRL has suburbs in its national comp says more about the pathetic Sydneycentric organisation of the comp and why it can never be a proper national comp while it has states and countries against suburbs.

There is nothing wrong with suburbs in the national comp. If a suburb can support a team with fans and money there is no problem with them being involved. It just shows the RL team is very popular in that area.

Teams have to cover enough of an area to "catch" enough fans and support. Some can do it in a suburb... others such as the Waratahs have to choose 2/3 of NSW and label the team "NSW". The Storm have to cover all of Melbourne, the Swans need to cover all of Sydney.

Parts of London have teams in the English premier league. There is no problems in that.

 

[rugged]

If a suburb can support a team with fans and money there is no problem with them being involved.

Seems like they can't get enough players from the areas though. They have to divide up QLD for the use of Sydney teams, and everyone's got a hand in NZ's pie.

I'd rather have a competition made from scratch to better reflect the populations and popularity (QLD is way underrepresented and has no traditional teams in the NRL anyway).

Why bag union for coming up with a great idea for a competition that involves 3 nations? Who said it had to be a national competition?

 

[Copa]

If a suburb can support a team with fans and money there is no problem with them being involved.

Seems like they can't get enough players from the areas though. They have to divide up QLD for the use of Sydney teams, and everyone's got a hand in NZ's pie.

I'd rather have a competition made from scratch to better reflect the populations and popularity (QLD is way underrepresented and has no traditional teams in the NRL anyway).

Why bag union for coming up with a great idea for a competition that involves 3 nations? Who said it had to be a national competition?

I didn't bag Union. Comps can involve any teams they want from anywhere, including suburbs...which you seem to have problems with.

 

[rugged]

Why bag union for coming up with a great idea for a competition that involves 3 nations? Who said it had to be a national competition?


I didn't bag Union. Comps can involve any teams they want from anywhere, including suburbs...which you seem to have problems with.

naah, it was the others who were, saying there wasn't a national competition for union.

 

[Hazy]

So remind me which code it is that has a club competition that recieves even less exposure than the embaressingly run NSL, and can only attract friends and loved ones to their games???????? IS it the AFL??? Or maybe the NRL????

Well a club comp with less exposure than the NSL hasn't seemed to hurt cricket much over the years...

 

[strong_latte]

Good points, Bayrep & ups to this site for including a rugby forum. It was a bit petty at RLeague how you could discuss any sport but union.

That'd be because Yawnion isn't a sport.

Union is a sport... All team sports are in fact "sports" for that matter... With the exeption of "padded twinkie ballet dancing" otherwise know as the NFL... 8)

 

[strong_latte]

Seriously guys, I don't know why so many people have such a problem with union on this board... it's not like it's a threat to league in anyway!
But then as soon as someone like me says something bad about shit sport (if you can call it a spoort) like "yanky ball" you all get defensive!!! This isn't a bloody NFL forum, NFL is a stupid yank sport involving 10 minute breaks after every play and fat useless shits who have no stamina or versitility on the feild! I just cannot understand why the bloody hell you think you can whinge about Union being boring, but somehow are able to sit through 4 f**kEN HOURS of NFL where there is only 60 mins of actual game time and 3 hours of commercials and shots of coaches and players bunched up chatting...

 

[SalfordRedsWA]

All union fans regarding League as so in denial. They hate the fact that there is 'another rugby'. They feel they wished union was the only code hence the media calling union simply 'rugby' as in the 'Rugby World Cup' when the League version was many years before. :roll:

 

[skeepe]

All union fans regarding League as so in denial. They hate the fact that there is 'another rugby'. They feel they wished union was the only code hence the media calling union simply 'rugby' as in the 'Rugby World Cup' when the League version was many years before. :roll:

Stupidest statement ever. I realise that's quite a big call, but that's quite a dumb piece of writing.

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

All union fans regarding League as so in denial. They hate the fact that there is 'another rugby'. They feel they wished union was the only code hence the media calling union simply 'rugby' as in the 'Rugby World Cup' when the League version was many years before. :roll:

Well seem like you wrote your own post and gave your own answer to it . You are the one in denial and you are the one who has a problem with another rugby code .

 

[JoeD]

I am both a fan of League and Union.

The only way to compare the structure of the 2 sports is to start from the top down not the bottom up. So Pinnacle of RL = SOO/Internationals (this may be contentious but imo the players give them equal standing) , Pinnacle of RU = Internationals. So far so good. Next level down in RL = NRL (for Aust/NZ based players) Next level down in RU = S12. 3rd level down in RL = Reserve grade/Qld Cup (Aust)/ Bartercard (NZ). 3rd level RU = club rugby(Aust)/NPC(NZ).

Club/state/rep/city/suburb is just semantics