Barba sacked by Cowboys

[myrrh ken]

This has been an ignored issue for a long time. Look at all the alleged domestic violence cases that resulted in no charge, case or conviction, because the female changed her story etc. whether it be because they forgave the partner or realized they’d be losing their partner’s pay packet, they didn’t go through with it.

For all the campaigning against dv, if this trend continues (it’s been going on for much longer than the NRL have been talking about it) then players/people in general will keep escaping punishment, and unless there’s some proof (a conviction or video), the NRL can’t sanction the player.

Even when there is proof, there isn't any consequences.

GI accepted responsibility for pushing his partner. Court orders some diversion program. Don't recall any follow up sanctions by the NRL. In fact, he gets a letter of commendation from them on his next trip to court.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/gr...iction-over-assault-charge-20100412-s2lg.html

 

[TheVelourFog]

'If you’re violent against a woman you can expect to be removed from the game. It starts now,” NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said on Saturday."

it only starts now?

not good enough Todd

 

[Cactus]

'If you’re violent against a woman you can expect to be removed from the game. It starts now,” NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said on Saturday."

it only starts now?

Begs the question. Does "starts now" mean from the time that includes or excludes this latest Barba incident ?????

Don't forget Mr Todd is a bitza.......part politician, part media advertising salesperson

 

[El Diablo]

The OP on this has a history of pulling stuff out of his butt.

i thought he put stuff up his butt

 

[Valheru]

With Carney, you've answered your own question here. The NRL are private entity and have the right to not register a contract if they see fit.

I do wonder if this would hold up in court. They are a provate organisatiom but they aren't the ones employing players so they essentially a 3rd party preventing someone from being employed.

Would take a club to challenge it in court though which i don't see happening.

 

[betcats]

Begs the question. Does "starts now" mean from the time that includes or excludes this latest Barba incident ?????

Don't forget Mr Todd is a bitza.......part politician, part media advertising salesperson

There’s not an nrl club out there who would try and sign Barba after this. He’s done whether he gets banned or not.

The cctv will come out soon which will really be ugly for Benny

 

[Cactus]

There’s not an nrl club out there who would try and sign Barba after this. He’s done whether he gets banned or not.

Oh yes i am well aware of that. I was being a bit facetious.

 

[Frederick]

Shamelessly stolen from facebook

 

[madunit]

According to The Courier Mail, Barba is also alleged to have hurled rocks at Currie, who spoke to the club prior to his axing to ask for leniency in fear of the young family’s financial stability.

www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/cowboys/sevenhour-drinking-session-new-details-show-why-cowboys-were-compelled-to-sack-ben-barba/news-story/291f294264011806d05610a40f42a427

It is perhaps a cruel reality that in taking a necessary stand against domestic violence, the ones who will be hurt the most out of Barba's banning are his wife and kids because of their loss of financial security.

It's an awkward truth and a very tough situation.

What isn't known is whether Barba threatened her to make that statement.

 

[madunit]

'If you’re violent against a woman you can expect to be removed from the game. It starts now,” NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said on Saturday."

it only starts now?

not good enough Todd

Either It starts now or it starts sometime in the future.

Perhaps he should go back to 1908 and enforce the policy back then?

But yeah, lets all blame Greenberg because no matter how much education they get, they still treat women like shit.

He's treated the players like the adults they are and the players ignore him.

This attitude amongst fans and the media of absolving the players from their mistakes and responsibilities and blaming officials is both pathetic and illogical.

Player is inside the 10 - ref blows a penalty - "These refs are killing the game with all these penalties"

Player beats his wife - Sack Greenberg.

Lets put it into a real world situation shall we. You get caught assaulting a woman. Under your logic, the boss of the business you work for gets fired.

Yeah that makes sense.

Fans need to start accepting that players are adults and are old enough to know better. They shouldn't need babysitters. They shouldn't need a shitload of education and training sessions. We all don't.

But instead Greenberg gets the blame.

And before anyone wants to ignore the crux of my post and call me a Greenberg sympathiser, grow up. I've never said he's a great CEO, nor have I defended him on every issue in the game.

Just apply some f**king logic to the situation.

 

[betcats]

Greenberg is an utter f**kwit, I consider his leniency a big part of this offseasons shenanigans. Trying to talk tough now about domestic violence now is a joke.

 

[AJB1102]

Either It starts now or it starts sometime in the future.

Perhaps he should go back to 1908 and enforce the policy back then?

But yeah, lets all blame Greenberg because no matter how much education they get, they still treat women like shit.

He's treated the players like the adults they are and the players ignore him.

This attitude amongst fans and the media of absolving the players from their mistakes and responsibilities and blaming officials is both pathetic and illogical.

Player is inside the 10 - ref blows a penalty - "These refs are killing the game with all these penalties"

Player beats his wife - Sack Greenberg.

Lets put it into a real world situation shall we. You get caught assaulting a woman. Under your logic, the boss of the business you work for gets fired.

Yeah that makes sense.

Fans need to start accepting that players are adults and are old enough to know better. They shouldn't need babysitters. They shouldn't need a shitload of education and training sessions. We all don't.

But instead Greenberg gets the blame.

And before anyone wants to ignore the crux of my post and call me a Greenberg sympathiser, grow up. I've never said he's a great CEO, nor have I defended him on every issue in the game.

Just apply some f**king logic to the situation.

No one is absolving the players of responsibility and putting the blame on Greenberg, just pointing out how the hopeless f**k has only now decided DV is a big no no.

 

[Mr Spock!]

I suppose that's what happens when you have a gambling habit, your club's sponsor is a casino and you allegedly go on a 7 hour drinking spree.

 

[Chimp]

A few simple things for me;

1 - This behaviour is entirely down to Barba, not Greenburg. I'd suggest it would have happened regardless of any NRL stance on DV. Barba is obviously a dick when he's been on the beer and like many, has no thought of the potential consequencies of his actions once he's 'in the moment' pissed up.

2 - Greenburg does seem to be picking and choosing when to be 'hardline' and when to give out personal references dependent on the player in question. This cannot continue. The NRL needs a clear Policy on player behaviour. They should either leave it to the Courts to hand out punishments and then let the club's decide if they want to sign a player once their legal punishment is completed (And own the bad PR consequencies of signing a dick), or have a clear Policy and defined sanctions for a range of indiscretions. Currently, it's just another example of 'Policy on the run' from TG.

3 - If Barba is not convicted, I fail to see how the NRL can uphold a lifetime sanction against Barba when they've let Matt Lodge back into the game. Barba could easily argue the Lodge decision set a precedent. If there is to be a new hardline stance (which IMO there should be), I don't see legally how it can be retrospectively applied when there are others currently in the game who have committed similar crimes. Barba could easily make a claim of discrimination - let's remember, his only previous confirmed issue was coke - there are others who've been allowed back into the game with much worse behaviour and proven criminal acts (including DV) than drugs. So whilst this incident is terrible, he can argue it's a 1 off and that he's being persecuted compared to other players.

4 - The point above won't matter, as nobody will want to sign Barba anyway, so it gives TG an easy out. He can play the tough guy routine in front of the cameras and try take the moral high ground, but in truth, he's an absolute self serving hypocrite.

 

[madunit]

No one is absolving the players of responsibility and putting the blame on Greenberg, just pointing out how the hopeless f**k has only now decided DV is a big no no.

It's still a dumb argument. He's the first Boss of the game to make that decision.

This should've been in place long before he was running the NRL. Blame his predecessors if you must.

It's so fashionable to pick at authority figures these days, that people just do it without thinking first.

 

[madunit]

Greenberg is an utter f**kwit, I consider his leniency a big part of this offseasons shenanigans. Trying to talk tough now about domestic violence now is a joke.

Why isn't Ken Arthurson getting bagged for not enforcing a zero tolerance policy when he rose to power in the 1980's?

 

[OzDragon]

'If you’re violent against a woman you can expect to be removed from the game. It starts now,” NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said on Saturday."

it only starts now?

not good enough Todd

Toddles is super cereal this time guys

 

[AJB1102]

It's still a dumb argument. He's the first Boss of the game to make that decision.

This should've been in place long before he was running the NRL. Blame his predecessors if you must.

It's so fashionable to pick at authority figures these days, that people just do it without thinking first.

Blame the person whose responsibility it used to be rather than who is in charge now? lol talk about dumb arguments!

 

[madunit]

Blame the person whose responsibility it used to be rather than who is in charge now? lol talk about dumb arguments!

It's the players responsibility!

You are so close to seeing how f**king stupid it is to be blaming anyone other than the player.

 

[AJB1102]

It's the players responsibility!

You are so close to seeing how f**king stupid it is to be blaming anyone other than the player.

I've already said the players weren't absolved of responsibility - they're still at fault.

Todd is still very late to the party by just now deciding DV is something that'll end your NRL career. Most people thought this should've been the case a while ago, back when Todd was eyeballing Matt Lodge.