Barba sacked by Cowboys

[Tiger5150]

Fair enough.

But i'd rather he start somewhere than do nothing as previous CEO's did.

How long has he been CEO for? How many incidents does it take to "get tough"(noting he is just talking tough so far)? YOu dont see any correlation between doing nothing for all these years and this years offseason train wreck?

 

[AJB1102]

Its not like previous CEO's couldn't have brought this policy in either.

Sure, but they didn't.

Todd's had half a dozen opportunities this summer alone!

Blaming the last bloke is worse than ignoring it and waiting for someone else to fix it. It's one of the more ridiculous arguments/excuses I've heard.

And he hasn't actually brought in any policy. Still all talk so far.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Greenberg, "if you're violent against women you can expect to be removed from the game".

Unless you're Greg Inglis, in which case you can expect to receive a personal reference.

Hypocrite.

 

[magpie4ever]

They are the only ones at fault. No one else. The game has done everything possible for these players. They have zero excuses and the game is absolved of any wrong doing.

This pathetic and non-stop witch hunt of NRL CEO's is f**king absurd and largely a massive joke.

Every time someone uses shit like this to attack Greenberg, they are indirectly taking the blame off the player who did the wrong thing, whether they intended to or not.

Whilst I agree with the majority of your post, the question still arises why haven't the NRL handed down penalities to Bolton & Inglis after their guilty pleads and please don't say they have been penalize by the courts they appeared before.

Inglis can not say I was dropped for 2 test matches & lost the captaincy, as this was pre the guilty plea.

Both should be sitting out a fair portion of the 2019 season. So this is why I'm questioning Greenberg's management.

 

[AJB1102]

Leadership is beginning now.

He's entering his 4th (?) season of being CEO. Better late than never, hey...

 

[madunit]

He's entering his 4th (?) season of being CEO. Better late than never, hey...

Gallop was better was he?

Better late then never indeed.

 

[madunit]

Whilst I agree with the majority of your post, the question still arises why haven't the NRL handed down penalities to Bolton & Inglis after their guilty pleads and please don't say they have been penalize by the courts they appeared before.

Inglis can not say I was dropped for 2 test matches & lost the captaincy, as this was pre the guilty plea.

Both should be sitting out a fair portion of the 2019 season. So this is why I'm questioning Greenberg's management.

Inglis was actually punished though, whether it was before or after the court ruling matters not, as it was related to the same incident.

Whether the punishment was enough or not is up for debate.

Bolton got off and that was wrong. But surely what we're seeing now is indirectly an admission that he was wrong to not act strongly enough towards those who assaulted women in the past.

Something previous CEO's failed to do.

Greenberg has also said there will be zero tolerance from here on in. This is the right decision for now and moving forward. We can't go back in time.

He's done the right thing and righted previous wrongs with this ruling, to ensure they don't happen again. He can't do much more than that.

Regarding other incidents, sure more can be done. He's made a step in the right direction here, and he's being shat upon for it.

 

[madunit]

Greenberg, "if you're violent against women you can expect to be removed from the game".

Unless you're Greg Inglis, in which case you can expect to receive a personal reference.

Hypocrite.

I don't think speeding is a form of assault against women.

 

[madunit]

Sure, but they didn't.

Todd's had half a dozen opportunities this summer alone!

and he has now acted.

Blaming the last bloke is worse than ignoring it and waiting for someone else to fix it. It's one of the more ridiculous arguments/excuses I've heard.

Blaming Greenberg is even worse still. He should be able to trust adults, who are well educated on the matter, to do the right thing. Treating players like children is a step in the wrong direction.

And he hasn't actually brought in any policy. Still all talk so far.

He's not likely to back down from it now.

 

[myrrh ken]

Inglis was actually punished though, whether it was before or after the court ruling matters not, as it was related to the same incident.

Whether the punishment was enough or not is up for debate.

Bolton got off and that was wrong. But surely what we're seeing now is indirectly an admission that he was wrong to not act strongly enough towards those who assaulted women in the past.

Something previous CEO's failed to do.

Greenberg has also said there will be zero tolerance from here on in. This is the right decision for now and moving forward. We can't go back in time.

He's done the right thing and righted previous wrongs with this ruling, to ensure they don't happen again. He can't do much more than that.

Regarding other incidents, sure more can be done. He's made a step in the right direction here, and he's being shat upon for it.

Why cant we go back in time?

Bolton was found guilty of common assault against a woman yet todd did nothing further. That was a couple weeks ago. Pre season hasnt started.

I recall feefs being punished for writing letters many many months after the fact.

 

[madunit]

How long has he been CEO for? How many incidents does it take to "get tough"(noting he is just talking tough so far)? YOu dont see any correlation between doing nothing for all these years and this years offseason train wreck?

Every previous CEO did nothing for over a century. How many chances did they all have? At least this guy has finally done something and it only took him 4 years. That's progress.

You are essentially arguing that off-field incidents only started under Greenberg's tenure.

The season's where bugger all happened in the off-season didn't see him get any praises. It's a horrible double standard being drawn.

 

[AJB1102]

Gallop was better was he?

Better late then never indeed.

Gallop hasn't had anything to do with RL for almost 7 years. He's irrelevant when discussing the recent talk from the current CEO and why you think it's okay for him to spend 3 years on training wheels.

"Leadership is beginning now" - they're your words, so you don't believe there has been any leadership under Greenberg in his 3 years as CEO and that's fine because he sounds like he might've eventually got around to it now. Wow, I wish you were my boss!

 

[madunit]

Why cant we go back in time?

Bolton was found guilty of common assault against a woman yet todd did nothing further. That was a couple weeks ago. Pre season hasnt started.

I recall feefs being punished for writing letters many manu months afterwards.

Because it's physically impossible to.

And if he did, I don't think straightening out player misbehaviour would be high on the priority list for anyone with the ability to travel through time.

 

[mave]

Either It starts now or it starts sometime in the future.

Perhaps he should go back to 1908 and enforce the policy back then?

But yeah, lets all blame Greenberg because no matter how much education they get, they still treat women like shit.

He's treated the players like the adults they are and the players ignore him.

This attitude amongst fans and the media of absolving the players from their mistakes and responsibilities and blaming officials is both pathetic and illogical.

Player is inside the 10 - ref blows a penalty - "These refs are killing the game with all these penalties"

Player beats his wife - Sack Greenberg.

Lets put it into a real world situation shall we. You get caught assaulting a woman. Under your logic, the boss of the business you work for gets fired.

Yeah that makes sense.

Fans need to start accepting that players are adults and are old enough to know better. They shouldn't need babysitters. They shouldn't need a shitload of education and training sessions. We all don't.

But instead Greenberg gets the blame.

And before anyone wants to ignore the crux of my post and call me a Greenberg sympathiser, grow up. I've never said he's a great CEO, nor have I defended him on every issue in the game.

Just apply some f**king logic to the situation.

Greenburg gets blame, because like all previous NRL bosses, he is an inconsistent fker, who picks and chooses when to bring the big stick, as opposed to the glowing reference.

 

[AJB1102]

Why cant we go back in time?

Bolton was found guilty of common assault against a woman yet todd did nothing further. That was a couple weeks ago. Pre season hasnt started.

I recall feefs being punished for writing letters many many months after the fact.

Flanagan for 5 year old emails. We can certainly go back in time.

 

[madunit]

Gallop hasn't had anything to do with RL for almost 7 years. He's irrelevant when discussing the recent talk from the current CEO and why you think it's okay for him to spend 3 years on training wheels.

"Leadership is beginning now" - they're your words, so you don't believe there has been any leadership under Greenberg in his 3 years as CEO and that's fine because he sounds like he might've eventually got around to it now. Wow, I wish you were my boss!

You argue that Greenberg should've done something prior to now

I raise Gallop's inability to have done anything about player misbehaviour prior to now and you dismiss it as irrelevant.

So we can't criticise Gallop's inaction IN THE PAST but we can criticise Greenberg's inaction IN THE PAST.

We finally have a zero tolerance policy being discussed on this issue. It's taken over a century. Greenberg did that.

Should he have done nothing and we wait for the next CEO? Or the one after that? Or another century?

Yes leadership on this matter is starting now. About bloody time, he deserves some credit for finally doing something that over a century worth of game leaders failed to do.

 

[mozza91]

I’m absolutely no fan of Greenberg. Arrogant, plays favourites and has been largely ineffective in his role.

But was has he done wrong in this case? The Cowboys acted quickly and gave Barba the right punishment.

Greenberg has backed them and drawn a line the sand. Is it too late? Probably. But at least he’s acting on it appropriately.

 

[super_coach]

Weedler's column today just happened to mention Inglis' private life, separation from his wife and that he has been seeing someone who works at the NRL for some months now.

Hmm. Handy that .... especially when needing a character reference from the NRL CEO for a DUI charge.

The Skelton’s are jumping out of Greenberg’s cupboard by the truck load

 

[madunit]

Flanagan for 5 year old emails. We can certainly go back in time.

So we start suspending players from the past, Greenberg would then be criticised for trying to look like a tough guy by issuing meaningless suspensions to past players years after the incidents took place.

You lot will never be satisfied. You don't want to be.

 

[myrrh ken]

You argue that Greenberg should've done something prior to now

I raise Gallop's inability to have done anything about player misbehaviour prior to now and you dismiss it as irrelevant.

So we can't criticise Gallop's inaction IN THE PAST but we can criticise Greenberg's inaction IN THE PAST.

We finally have a zero tolerance policy being discussed on this issue. It's taken over a century. Greenberg did that.

Should he have done nothing and we wait for the next CEO? Or the one after that? Or another century?

Yes leadership on this matter is starting now. About bloody time, he deserves some credit for finally doing something that over a century worth of game leaders failed to do.

Nothing in his soundbite suggested anything like a zero tolerance policy.

All he seems to be suggesting is that if clubs tear up a contract then nrl wont re-register them.