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Bennet butthurt

Is wayne a sore loser?

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 78.2%
  • No

    Votes: 12 21.8%

  • Total voters
    55
  • Poll closed .

DiegoNT

First Grade
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Bennett spun the 'flip of the coin' b.s and people are believing it.
If it was down to a flip of the coin then how come some teams still chose to recieve? We've seen in countless GPs and sometimes a team runs down the field after receiving and scores, sometimes the defensive team keeps them pinned down and recieve field position for a shot at goal amd sometimes an early mistake is made that costs a team, as what happened last night.
The 'Bennett's always been against GP' line is also stretching the truth. Bennett has always been against it due to player welfare. The alternatives are 10 each way, which is again a problem for player welfare and still likely to be won in a field goal-athon or to replay the game next week which again puts a strain on players, especially the guys who have an upcoming test series like lolo, blair, glenn amd possibly winterstein.
This whole speech has been made to shift attention away from Brisbane losing fairly , and probably down to Bennetts pior plan to run out the clock, and it looks like the media types have fallen for it hook, line and sinker because Bennett can never be possibly wrong
 

Bronco18

Juniors
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The 'Bennett's always been against GP' line is also stretching the truth. Bennett has always been against it due to player welfare. The alternatives are 10 each way, which is again a problem for player welfare and still likely to be won in a field goal-athon or to replay the game next week which again puts a strain on players, especially the guys who have an upcoming test series like lolo, blair, glenn amd possibly winterstein.
This whole speech has been made to shift attention away from Brisbane losing fairly , and probably down to Bennetts pior plan to run out the clock, and it looks like the media types have fallen for it hook, line and sinker because Bennett can never be possibly wrong

We get it, you don't like the Broncos. The "speech" was made because a reporter asked a question and he answered it honestly, with the same position he has held since its inception (prior to his first GP game as coach, which he won). I'm sure he'd rather not go out there since he was that cranky, but it's expected of NRL coaches to go out and answer questions asked of them.

Also lol about the media falling for it, read the SMH articles about Green outfoxing Bennett tactically.
 

mave

Coach
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Bennett adding to his tally of losing Grand Finals, and he clearly doesn't like it.
 

nick87

Coach
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You'd already lost the game well before Hunt's error by playing so negatively. Cows were never going to lose after halftime.

It really was a win for the game to have them pipped at the post like that given the way they played that 2nd 40.
They honestly stopped trying to score after the 50th minute. Ben Hunt kicking for touch any number of attacking kicks might have produced a game sealing try was absolutely gutless

They played not to lose, instead of playing to win and it cost them dearly... Hell it cost me dearly! I had stacks on stacks coming my way had the Broncos covered the -1.5, and even more if they won 13+
Which I think they might well have done if they went for the jugular in the first 25 minutes of the 2nd half
 

DiegoNT

First Grade
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Green definitely out foxed Bennett last night
He rested tamou, .Scott, lolo and Graneville for an extended period last night. With attacking players like hunt, milford and Hodges on the field the broncos should of really went for the jugular while Asiata, Bolton, hannent and kostjcyn were on the field. Instead broncos Went for negative tactics and defending their way out. By the time Cowboys powerful 4 were all back on with 15 to go the momentum had changed into Cowboys failure. Luckily Greens positive approach beat out Bennetts negativity
 

_Johnsy

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read the SMH articles about Green outfoxing Bennett tactically.

Cowboys won, and ran all over the top of Brisbane in the last 20min. I know it must hurt, but that point has merit. The way Brisbane played the back end of the game & the result confirms your sentiment.
 

Bronco18

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Cowboys won, and ran all over the top of Brisbane in the last 20min. I know it must hurt, but that point has merit. The way Brisbane played the back end of the game & the result confirms your sentiment.

And I agree... I was pointing out DiegotNT was talking shit in saying the media fell for Bennett, they openly criticised his tactics.

In saying that, if the Broncos make that last tackle, the consensus is: "Broncos back their defence to win GF". It's easy for an armchair critic to say it's obvious that he was wrong, but it was literally 1 second, 1 tackle away from working. :p
 

DiegoNT

First Grade
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And I agree... I was pointing out DiegotNT was talking shit in saying the media fell for Bennett, they openly criticised his tactics.

In saying that, if the Broncos make that last tackle, the consensus is: "Broncos back their defence to win GF". It's easy for an armchair critic to say it's obvious that he was wrong, but it was literally 1 second, 1 tackle away from working. :p

There are a few articles coming out criticizing the Golden Point GF and calling it a flip pf the coin to decide a grand final etc... luckily this negativity isn't prevailing just like the negativity didn't prevail last night.

Bennett only just criticized storm for negative tactics 3 weeks ago, saying it's bad for the game for teams to play like that yet with a premiership on the line he had no problem resorting to similar tactics
 
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Jason Maher

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The problem with golden point is that too much of an advantage comes from the flip of a coin.

Extra time in finals games. A draw is a valid result for regular season games. IMO.

I think most people agree with this. I certainly do, and have done so since the current system was introduced. Draws and 10 each way in finals. Golden point after that on the very rare occasion teams still can't be separated. The only place where I think straight golden point may be the go is Origin, simply because of how tough those games are. An extra 20 minutes would be akin to torture. There is of course always the option to go back to the old system of current holders retaining the trophy in the event of a drawn series.

Bennett spun the 'flip of the coin' b.s and people are believing it.
If it was down to a flip of the coin then how come some teams still chose to recieve? We've seen in countless GPs and sometimes a team runs down the field after receiving and scores, sometimes the defensive team keeps them pinned down and recieve field position for a shot at goal amd sometimes an early mistake is made that costs a team, as what happened last night.
The 'Bennett's always been against GP' line is also stretching the truth. Bennett has always been against it due to player welfare. The alternatives are 10 each way, which is again a problem for player welfare and still likely to be won in a field goal-athon or to replay the game next week which again puts a strain on players, especially the guys who have an upcoming test series like lolo, blair, glenn amd possibly winterstein.
This whole speech has been made to shift attention away from Brisbane losing fairly , and probably down to Bennetts pior plan to run out the clock, and it looks like the media types have fallen for it hook, line and sinker because Bennett can never be possibly wrong

Showing your (lack of) age. I grew up in the era of 10 each way, and none of the games that went to extra time degenerated into a field goal shootout. It could happen, but it's unlikely.

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My problem with Bennett's little sook is the complaint about losing to a field goal in extra time and that the real score was 16-all. He completely ignores that the only reason it was 16-all was because the opposition goalkicker missed a sideline conversion by a bee's dick.
 
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mave

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Likely these days I reckon.
The players are conditioned to it now. It would take a couple of years/next generation of players to give the field goal fetish up.
 

axe&smash&crush

Juniors
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Gee he came off poorly in the press conference. So negative (maybe protecting hunt) after a brilliant game, just say well done to the Cowboys, we aim to be back here next year to challenge and move on. Magic moment created and Wayne has to whinge.
 

DiegoNT

First Grade
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Showing your (lack of) age. I grew up in the era of 10 each way, and none of the games that went to extra time degenerated into a field goal shootout. It could happen, but it's unlikely.

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It's been close to 20 years since the last 10 each way overtime and the game has changed dramatically. In the last 10 years the nrl has become extremely structured and played to percentages football even in the 89 grand final overtime Raiders went immediately for the drop goal. In today's nrl it's very likely you'd see a field goal set up early and the opposing team trying to level with a field goal of their own.
 

Walt Flanigan

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even in the 89 grand final overtime Raiders went immediately for the drop goal.

That was more about the psychological blow to the Tigers. That was the first time that we led in the match.
Mal was actually filthy about it, O'Sullivan said he was going to do it and Meninga said no.
 

DiegoNT

First Grade
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That was more about the psychological blow to the Tigers. That was the first time that we led in the match.
Mal was actually filthy about it, O'Sullivan said he was going to do it and Meninga said no.

So modern teams wouldn't want to go for the physiological blow as well?
 

Bigcoq

Juniors
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334
Putting things into Waynes perspective, hes happy to win scoring less tries than the Cowboys through penalties goals but upset at losing from a field goal? definitely a sore loser.
 

Walt Flanigan

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So modern teams wouldn't want to go for the physiological blow as well?

Might be the case for the first field goal but I don't think the other team would follow suit unless they had to. Balmain for instance weren't trying to equalise with a field goal.
 

Someone

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I don't see how golden point is unfair, or a toss of the coin. Its a pressure situation and everything is on the line.

one halfback stood up and the other didn't. that's why the cowboys won. Hunt catch's that ball, who knows, maybe Milford breaks the line and puts the broncos in a position to take a shot.

Wayne is trying to take that headline away by creating another. even if he really does feel that way there is a time and a place to discuss it.
 

Wizardman

First Grade
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Without a shadow of a doubt he came off looking like a sore loser.
Great coach who genuinely looks after his players. More times than not, he talks a lot of sense about the game.
Last night, he came off second best in every department. His negative tactics cost his team a premiership (I believe they were in the box seat last night).
What left a sour taste in my mouth was the timing of his argument about golden point. While he has some valid points, it was not the time or place to have a whinge about it on such a historic night. It takes away some credit to the cowboys by having this illtimed whinge which is just not good for the game. His press conference should solely have been to give credit to the two teams involved.
His grand final replay suggestion is an absolute joke.
 

Misanthrope

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I would agree he was a sore loser had he not been a very vocal opponent of golden point for quite some time now.
 
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