Bennett's ego out of control

[Slackboy72]

 

[Hooch]

Bennets been around for decades.. he's pushed a few people into oncoming traffic.

Remember when his job was on the line and a few years back and he slaughtered his own coaching staff? Not many would do that.

 

[Crusher]

Bennets been around for decades.. he's pushed a few people into oncoming traffic.

Remember when his job was on the line and a few years back and he slaughtered his own coaching staff? Not many would do that.

Sort of true but you have to remember that if coaches in general were left to do their job instead of having 'do gooder' club boards meddle in their business they wouldn't need to shaft dead wood.

 

[Slackboy72]

Bennets been around for decades.. he's pushed a few people into oncoming traffic.

Remember when his job was on the line and a few years back and he slaughtered his own coaching staff? Not many would do that.

...and the end result was a premiership against a salary cap cheating squad wasn't it?

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

There are about 5 or 6 teams you could probably argue were better.

Manly, Storm, Broncos, Parramatta, Titans and even the Dogs.

At the start of 09.
We received the "injury prone" Weyman.
Jeremy Smith
Unwanted Neville Costigan
Darius Boyd

Poore was seen as a pillow.
Scott had poor hands
Soward was seen as inconsistent
Hornby wasn't considered a halfback
No real hooker other than Priddis who was over the hill
No 2nd row set in stone
Morris wasn't even a regular first grader
Sailor was over the hill
Gasnier left
Ryles left

2009 we weren't even tipped to make the 8 based on our roster, the only thing that had most people tipping us to make the finals was the Bennett factor. We had alot of talented juniors but most of them had very limited first grade exposure.

Well played sir and 100% accurate.

 

[Dr.J]

Bennett hasnt shown any arogance or ego at all, he's been getting huge credit and media attention, but while all this is going on he's just gone about his business quietly as usual, as the humble man that he is.

This thread wasn't meant to be about whether Bennett is a super coach or not (he is) and whether he got the most out of the St George list (he did) and whether St George and Brisbane supporters think his sh_t don't stink (they don't).

It was meant to be about exactly what this quote above says - how people equate not speaking to the media as being a gentleman. What a load of rubbish.

Wayne Bennett agreed to coach the Roosters a few years ago and got Ricky Stuart sacked. He has never apologised for this ungentlemanly like behaviour to anyone, hiding behind the cloke of "I don't speak to the media".

He has obviously spoken to Russell Crowe, probably Tinkler, definitely the Broncos and definitely St George, maybe even the Cowboys.

History has repeated itself in that Henjak has been given the sack to clear the decks for him, with the Broncos sacrificing their coach to make their club a more attractive option for he-who-can-do-no-wrong.

Behind the scenes he is 100% playing them all off against each other, and in doing so undermining the coaches of about 4 clubs at the one time.

Because his reputation as the ultimate gentleman survived a backflip on joining the Roosters, which cost Ricky Stuart his job, he has no problem with doing it again.

If he cared about loyalty and being a gentleman as much as he and his disciples carry on about, he would quickly choose what he is doing for 2012 rather than playing them all off against each other.

Fair enough - if you are a ruthless win-at-all-costs man then what Bennett is currently doing is part of the package.

Beats me how he has managed to not only be exactly that but everyone seems to have bought the spin about what an honourable bloke he is.

Honourable (and we won't see it as it would be completely out of character) would be an immediate statement on what he is doing for 2012 so as to stop destabilising 4-5 clubs.

 

[Hooch]

...and the end result was a premiership against a salary cap cheating squad wasn't it?

Not questioning the effectiveness of his methods.. just saying anyone who thinks he's kind old Uncle Wayne is naive. You don't last that long in the coaching game without getting your hands dirty.

I don't think Bennet would present himself as a saint or humble. But he wouldn't go out of his way to dispel anyone of such a helpful illusion.

 

[LineBall]

Wayne Bennett agreed to coach the Roosters a few years ago and got Ricky Stuart sacked. He has never apologised for this ungentlemanly like behaviour to anyone, hiding behind the cloke of "I don't speak to the media".

So you're saying that the only reason Ricky Stuart was sacked was due to Bennet agreeing to come to the Roosters? If the Roosters were looking for a replacement for him, I'd say he was going to be sacked regardless.

He has obviously spoken to Russell Crowe, probably Tinkler, definitely the Broncos and definitely St George, maybe even the Cowboys.

Wayne Bennett talking to St George? That's a scoop. The rest of your statement is only an assumption. And as far as I know, he's allowed to talk to whoever he likes.

History has repeated itself in that Henjak has been given the sack to clear the decks for him, with the Broncos sacrificing their coach to make their club a more attractive option for he-who-can-do-no-wrong.

Henjak submitted his resignation at the end of last year. It was not accepted by Bruno Cullen and he remained. It was unlikely that Henjak would have been there atfer this year, even if he hadn't been sacked.

Behind the scenes he is 100% playing them all off against each other, and in doing so undermining the coaches of about 4 clubs at the one time.

Yes, I'm sure his main priority is to have other coaches watching their backs, rather than coaching the Dragons.

Because his reputation as the ultimate gentleman survived a backflip on joining the Roosters, which cost Ricky Stuart his job, he has no problem with doing it again.

As I recall, the reason he backed out of coaching the Roosters was due to the arrangement becoming public knowledge, otherwise he was keen to go to the Roosters, as his great idol, Jack Gibson had coached them. You imply he never had any intention of going and falsely assured the Roosteres that he would go so as to ensure that their coach at the time was sacked. Utter rubbish.

If he cared about loyalty and being a gentleman as much as he and his disciples carry on about, he would quickly choose what he is doing for 2012 rather than playing them all off against each other.

It's his decision and he can make it when he is good and ready. Do you think players are any different?

Honourable (and we won't see it as it would be completely out of character) would be an immediate statement on what he is doing for 2012 so as to stop destabilising 4-5 clubs.

And of course, you will be demanding that every other coach and player who is coming off contract at the end of the year will immediately announce their intentions for next year as well?

 

[KiamaSaint]

Behind the scenes he is 100% playing them all off against each other, and in doing so undermining the coaches of about 4 clubs at the one time.

Honourable (and we won't see it as it would be completely out of character) would be an immediate statement on what he is doing for 2012 so as to stop destabilising 4-5 clubs.

Well done. You have just figured out Wayne Bennett. Its official, he is staying at the Dragons in 2012. His lack of an announcement is an ingenious plot to destabilize the 4 - 5 big threats to the competition this year. Outstanding coaching if you ask me.

BTW - I have been told by a reliable source close to the Wigan club that Wayne will be coaching there next year. Michael Macguire to be sacked any day now. You heard it hear first.

 

[Ausguy]

bend over

how did everyone miss this.... :sarcasm:

 

[Jason Maher]

I didn't miss it. I chose to ignore it.

 

[Canard]

"sack Neil Henry, and then I'll talk about coming to work for the Cowboys"
.

Bennett in the Cowboys were in talks before Henry was even thought of.

It was only that walking, talking half genius/half moron Tallis that stopped him being our head coach.

After Bennett was told "No, thanks", we got Henry as a "third prize in a beauty contest" consolation. Most overated coach in modern NRL history.

 

[saint pebba]

Behind the scenes he is 100% playing them all off against each other, and in doing so undermining the coaches of about 4 clubs at the one time.

In all fairness, you officailly have no f****** idea.

Bennett has publicly stated that he wont negotiate with any club whilst they still have a coach under contract. This is the complete opposite of what you are saying.

If the clubs then want to sack their coach's then that is on them and not Bennett.

When he signed with the saints, Brown was coming off contract and they had already told him that he was not going to get a new contract. He wasn't sacked.

The situation with souths is that Lang told them last year that he was not interested in coaching next year. This is also the last year of his deal.

As someone also posted, Henjak offered his resignation last year but cullen didn't accept it. The new CEO has obviously different plans to cullen and has decided he needs to go. There is no evidence that Bennett has had talks with the Broncs.

 

[bomberman]

Bennett in the Cowboys were in talks before Henry was even thought of.

It was only that walking, talking half genius/half moron Tallis that stopped him being our head coach.

After Bennett was told "No, thanks", we got Henry as a "third prize in a beauty contest" consolation. Most overated coach in modern NRL history.

Why did Tallis stop Bennett from being coach? Whats Tallis have agaisnt bennett?

 

[Canard]

Why did Tallis stop Bennett from being coach? Whats Tallis have agaisnt bennett?

Tallis was a board member of the Cowboys (Broncos stooge), and voted not to have him as coach due to some personal grudge.

I think he requested a gobby from Bennett one day and got knocked back, so he has had his panties twisted since then about Wayne.

Thankfully Gorden isn't on the board anymore.

 

[bomberman]

Tallis is a deadset idiot.

 

[Charles Bronson]

 

[Goldfields_Titans]

the cobbler called, your shoes are ready

Don't they belong to Sir Les Patterson?

 

[Goldfields_Titans]

He might end up at Hull FC!

 

[Dr.J]

In all fairness, you officailly have no f****** idea.

Bennett has publicly stated that he wont negotiate with any club whilst they still have a coach under contract. This is the complete opposite of what you are saying.

If the clubs then want to sack their coach's then that is on them and not Bennett.

When he signed with the saints, Brown was coming off contract and they had already told him that he was not going to get a new contract. He wasn't sacked.

The situation with souths is that Lang told them last year that he was not interested in coaching next year. This is also the last year of his deal.

As someone also posted, Henjak offered his resignation last year but cullen didn't accept it. The new CEO has obviously different plans to cullen and has decided he needs to go. There is no evidence that Bennett has had talks with the Broncs.

Rather than the exact opposite of what I am saying, it is exactly what I am saying. Bennett knows he is in demand and is prepared to flirt with multiple clubs. He tells them "make a decision on your current coach and then I would be interested to talk to you", then is sitting by and watching them drop like nine pins.

If you are silly enough to think Nathan Brown wasn't sacked and John Land isn't getting sacked and Henjak didn't want to continue as Broncos coach then wake up and smell the coffee.

Obviously it is a cut-throat game. 90% of coaches get their start because someone else got the sack. 90% of them will get the sack.

Bennett is taking this all to a new level. He is getting coaches sacked at clubs where he isn't going to even end up, just because so many clubs are drooling over him. In the dog-eat-dog world of coaching he is the most cutthroat of all (and the most successful) yet somehow he spins rubbish that he is an honourable bloke.

Anyone who calls him honourable or a gentleman after his dealings with the Roosters in 2006 and then pulling out after Stuart got sacked because he had agreed to come again needs to pull themselves out of fairy land.