Best team in NRL history (1998-2013)

[papabear]

So you think Adam Muir, Jason Taylor, etc would look back as having played for Manly? Do you really think the fact Manly went from 3 consecutive grand finals in 95-97 and into 9 consecutive finals series' from 2005 but the period in between was unaffected by the debacle that was the Northern Eagles? The shitstain of a club that was the Bears compromised the Manly club and the years of the joint venture should not be seen as a reflection of Manly.

lol, you are lost.

 

[Canard]

Best team in the NRL 2013 from Round 21 to Round 26.

NQ Cowboys Played 6 Won 6.

Stat's don't lie!!

 

[Frederick]

why 98-13?

make that 95-13. manly all over anyone else

Because there was no NRL prior to 98, derr

Stupid Manly fans

 

[POPEYE]

No. Just, no.

Besides, I never knew 4 was double that of 3. Interesting math. Maybe that's why you don't care for cap cheating.

I'm only going by Wiki, memory's not what it used to be, nevertheless you'll tell me who's won it three times.

Hope you note I disregard Melbourne in '99 and '12 as being best team of the year . . . .didn't win the Shield.

 

[zombie jesus]

Broncos
Roosters
Sea Eagles
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[Jerkwad2000]

So Steve menzies was a 2 club player?

Not including that period in your analysis is ridiculous.

well, according to the NRL themselves, yes, he played for 2 clubs. They do not recognise Menzies as only being a Manly player, nor do they count any of the tries he scored during the Northern Eagles period as being for Manly.

Ergo, if the NRL themselves do not count it, nor should others.

 

[firechild]

So Steve menzies was a 2 club player?

Not including that period in your analysis is ridiculous.

Officially, yes, he played for 2 clubs. I and most Manly fans consider him to be a 1 club player but if he is to be denied that by the NRL then you would have to say that the poor record of the Northern Eagles should not be reflected in Manly's success (or lack thereof) over the period in question.

 

[POPEYE]

Officially, yes, he played for 2 clubs. I and most Manly fans consider him to be a 1 club player but if he is to be denied that by the NRL then you would have to say that the poor record of the Northern Eagles should not be reflected in Manly's success (or lack thereof) over the period in question.

Gotta take the good with the bad, Manly's dabble in oblivion is just as pertinent as Melbourne and CB not being allowed to accrue points, without which a quick assessment of performance from 1998 reads:
Storm 480, Broncos 480, Roosters 440, combined Eagles 438, Newcastle 430 and Dogs 427.

 

[axl rose]

Broncos of 1998 were a fine team but the salary cap was non existent and all the great teams of the 90's were well past their best by then. Raiders, Manly etc were well on the decline.
2000 was a decent achievement after losing Renouf and Langer. 2006 the biggest fluke of all time.

 

[rabbitohs95]

I don't think there was one consistent team over the past 15 years.

The Roosters did well until 2005 and that's when inconsistency and making the finals every second year came in. Ironically when Fittler retired this inconsistency came in.

Broncos were similar but up until 2009, again the retirement of Lockyer coincided with their drop in overall form.

Manly have been almost the opposite, they were doing alright in the late 90's, merged with Norths, became terrible, un-merged (if that is a word?), rebuilt and began their run of finals since 2004, when Des Hasler started coaching the team.

Similarly, Melbourne were decent in the 90's (1999 again they had a plethora of players from the defunct clubs from the defunct Super League), again began their run with the coaching from Craig Bellamy. Sure, they did cheat of course, however they still tasted success in 2012 with their first legitimate premiership since 1999.


I'd have to go with Brisbane as they have the most NRL premierships (3) as well as making the finals every year up until the 2010 season.

 

[POPEYE]

I don't think there was one consistent team over the past 15 years.

The Roosters did well until 2005 and that's when inconsistency and making the finals every second year came in. Ironically when Fittler retired this inconsistency came in.

Broncos were similar but up until 2009, again the retirement of Lockyer coincided with their drop in overall form.

Manly have been almost the opposite, they were doing alright in the late 90's, merged with Norths, became terrible, un-merged (if that is a word?), rebuilt and began their run of finals since 2004, when Des Hasler started coaching the team.

Similarly, Melbourne were decent in the 90's (1999 again they had a plethora of players from the defunct clubs from the defunct Super League), again began their run with the coaching from Craig Bellamy. Sure, they did cheat of course, however they still tasted success in 2012 with their first legitimate premiership since 1999.


I'd have to go with Brisbane as they have the most NRL premierships (3) as well as making the finals every year up until the 2010 season.

Lost everyone with Storm 'decent in the 90's' . . . they were arsier in '99 than Broncos in '06

 

[mxlegend99]

Manly Sea Eagles IMO. Not a fan of them, but they have been consistent since 2005 in not missing the finals at all, winning a couple of premierships and being runners up a couple more times. One of their premierships losses was to a team that cheated... so they could have very easily had another premiership. I also rate them ahead of teams similarly placed as they have gone from an average team and turned into a consistent side that is always a chance at the premiership.

Brisbane have probably been the most consistent team overall.. but are going to opposite way of Manly. Ever since Wayne Bennett left they haven't really been a premiership threat and they aren't even making the finals consistently like they used to. Had they not missed the finals and made a couple of grand final qualifiers I would have these guys at number 1 for sure.

Roosters I would have just on par with Brisbane due to winning 2 premierships, and being the runners up on 3 other occassions. I would have had them ahead, but they had some very lean years lately in between successful years and I think a big part of being the best has to be being consistently in it for an extended period atleast. On the other hand they don't seem to stay down for very long which is impressive.

Storm cheated through their period of dominance and don't deserve to be considered at all. Had they not breached the salary cap they would without a doubt be the most successful team in that period. Basically they were cheating for a third of the period though... they left us without premiers in two of those years and the other few took the place of teams who weren't cheating and knocked some out.

 

[H.H]

Manly Sea Eagles IMO. Not a fan of them, but they have been consistent since 2005 in not missing the finals at all, winning a couple of premierships and being runners up a couple more times. One of their premierships losses was to a team that cheated... so they could have very easily had another premiership. I also rate them ahead of teams similarly placed as they have gone from an average team and turned into a consistent side that is always a chance at the premiership.

Brisbane have probably been the most consistent team overall.. but are going to opposite way of Manly. Ever since Wayne Bennett left they haven't really been a premiership threat and they aren't even making the finals consistently like they used to. Had they not missed the finals and made a couple of grand final qualifiers I would have these guys at number 1 for sure.

Roosters I would have just on par with Brisbane due to winning 2 premierships, and being the runners up on 3 other occassions. I would have had them ahead, but they had some very lean years lately in between successful years and I think a big part of being the best has to be being consistently in it for an extended period atleast. On the other hand they don't seem to stay down for very long which is impressive.

Storm cheated through their period of dominance and don't deserve to be considered at all. Had they not breached the salary cap they would without a doubt be the most successful team in that period. Basically they were cheating for a third of the period though... they left us without premiers in two of those years and the other few took the place of teams who weren't cheating and knocked some out.

Good call on the Roosters, especially re. Them not staying down for long.

IMO it shows we actually could've won this argument easily as it shows we've always had very good players and recruitment.

Cultural and coaching issues have held us back enormously at times IMO and what has been a very good era should have been an absolute golden period.

 

[rabbitohs95]

Lost everyone with Storm 'decent in the 90's' . . . they were arsier in '99 than Broncos in '06

Eh tbh i'm too young to remember how they played back then.

 

[whall15]

Melbourne have been pretty inconsistent tbqh. Two premierships but five spoons, hardly 'best team' material.

 

[Avenger]

A big if I know but if we had of jagged the GF in 2001 that Parra side would have been the greatest, ever.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Certainly the best statistically in the NRL era. Attack wise anyway.

But all sides pale in comparison statistically to the 1935 Easts side.

 

[Dragon_psa]

Certainly the best statistically in the NRL era. Attack wise anyway.

But all sides pale in comparison statistically to the 1935 Easts side.

The 1959 Dragons and 1925 Rabbitohs were both better overall as far as stats for a season go...

 

[Tommy Smith]

Easts 1935:

Played 16: Won 15, Lost 1

For: 599 (37.44 p.g.)

Against: 157 (9.81 p.g.)

Differential: + 442.

How do the others compare?

 

[dice]

A big if I know but if we had of jagged the GF in 2001 that Parra side would have been the greatest, ever.

That 2001 Parra side no better than the 2005 Tigers touch footy champions. Getting back onto the game of league and the 02/04 roosters and recent Manly sides easily the best sides. It is always tough to back up after a premiership win and those two sides the closest to have gone back-to-back.