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I also think pippen means we shouldn't be involved in naming their team, they finally have their own team, let's give them something they are themselves proud of... if its pirates, defenders, scorpions, etc then so be it

An animal will always be a good choice (it has personality while being a blank canvas)

humanoids are trickier. They can be spot on (Knights and Steelers in working-class cities, Raiders as the outsiders to Sydney, Cowboys for the rural culture) or they can be unrelated gimmicks (f*ck the Titans)

I maintain that Defenders works (others would too)

One issue we run into with hunamoids is when they cut a bit too close to home. For a country that is borderline failed state with some of the worst crime-rates in the world “pirates” or “rebels” (criminal, outsider the law) isnt a great angle. It is perfect for Sydney teams because it is a middle-class persons chance to pretend that they are an outlaw.

For PNG, I do believe this team will become a large part of the self image “what it means to be a PNG citizen”. Promoting the idea of “the PNG hero is the person who doesnt follow the rules” is an issue.

I don't know if your first point is true. I don't know if certain tribes in PNG assisting Aussie soldiers is important to the national identity of PNG. There's hundreds of different tribal groups in PNG and the country did seek and successfully gain independence from us.

Giving somebody a gift, but telling them what to do with it is not the best way to gain respect and trust. Probably the reason why condition related to China shouldn't have been part of deal either.

Actually, they asked to go from Territory to Statehood. Australia said no (it makes sense, give a few million people from an undeveloped area citizenship and they would all move to Sydney within a decade. No country can digest that without major social issues). But there is no bad blood before independence.

It actually makes perfect sense for PNG to frame itself as Australia’s little brother
 

Pippen94

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An animal will always be a good choice (it has personality while being a blank canvas)

humanoids are trickier. They can be spot on (Knights and Steelers in working-class cities, Raiders as the outsiders to Sydney, Cowboys for the rural culture) or they can be unrelated gimmicks (f*ck the Titans)

I maintain that Defenders works (others would too)

One issue we run into with hunamoids is when they cut a bit too close to home. For a country that is borderline failed state with some of the worst crime-rates in the world “pirates” or “rebels” (criminal, outsider the law) isnt a great angle. It is perfect for Sydney teams because it is a middle-class persons chance to pretend that they are an outlaw.

For PNG, I do believe this team will become a large part of the self image “what it means to be a PNG citizen”. Promoting the idea of “the PNG hero is the person who doesnt follow the rules” is an issue.



Actually, they asked to go from Territory to Statehood. Australia said no (it makes sense, give a few million people from an undeveloped area citizenship and they would all move to Sydney within a decade. No country can digest that without major social issues). But there is no bad blood before independence.

It actually makes perfect sense for PNG to frame itself as Australia’s little brother

..for somebody who see's Australia as the centre of the universe. I don't think country being good friend of more power neighbour is important part of national identity. Wonder how Kiwi's would view that lol?!
 

mikail-eagle

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To be honest I don't really see the point in going through that exercise. There will be like a thousand different suggestions thrown in.
How do they pick one ? The one with the highest tally ?
 

Wb1234

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To be honest I don't really see the point in going through that exercise. There will be like a thousand different suggestions thrown in.
How do they pick one ? The one with the highest tally ?
Titans had four names and people voted on those

Think the four names came from a poll online in a newspaper

(They chose the dolphins first but recliffe wouldn’t let them use it)

It’s a way of showing the public it’s their team and gets more publicity for them
 

AlwaysGreen

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You'd put it out there, then narrow it down to the top 5 and then pretend the one you chose years ago was the best.

So PNG Titans II
 

Perth Red

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Titans had four names and people voted on those

Think the four names came from a poll online in a newspaper

(They chose the dolphins first but recliffe wouldn’t let them use it)

It’s a way of showing the public it’s their team and gets more publicity for them
every one Ive seen have never been public choice lol. They put options then choose the one they had already decided on.
 
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..for somebody who see's Australia as the centre of the universe. I don't think country being good friend of more power neighbour is important part of national identity. Wonder how Kiwi's would view that lol?!

Every country defines itself in relation to an important neighbour (you give definition to a thing by comparisons, figuring out what it is and what it is not)

- Australian conservatives are defined by their love of England and America.
- NZ is defined by being almost Australia, but a bit different.
- Canada was founded on a love for England and an opposition to the US
- Japan hates China
- Everyone in East Asia hates Japan,
Etc

PNGs most important relationship is with Australia. It was the Aus government that create modern PNG after WW1 then gave it independence in 1975.

If not Australia, who is their most important relationship?
 
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