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Boring Kicks For Boring Tries

Johnny Bravo

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I propose we have 4 judges, judging the style, execution and landing on a scale of 0 to 1, not unlike the gymnastics. Scores are then tallied and added to the score. :roll:
 
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Danish

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players, and hence defenders, are bigger than what they were. yet the field width remains the same. gaps today are smaller which makes it harder to penetrate the defence.

expanding the field width should sort out this BS repetitive kicking business.



Because that is just SOOOO easy to do isn't it?
 

Danish

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considering just about every game is being played out at Homebush......yes it is. :p


:lol:

You are probably right there....

Suncorp stadium, the SFS, Toyota stadium, brookvale oval, Energy Australia etc etc would all have to be ripped up, however.

Mind you, the teams with home grounds at those venues would probably just apply for concessions much like the Storm have done at Olympic park for all these years.
 

effnic

Bench
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If you couldnt score a try off a kick the roosters and storm would fight it out for the spoon.
 

Calixte

First Grade
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No. Just someone suggested the judges thing about 30 posts ago.

It was funny then. Not the second time...
 

Slackboy72

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A bit like your call for bombs to be banned altogether. If a team happens to have taller wingers then why shouldn't they be able to utilise them to the best of their abilities?

You mean like the tallest players in an AFL team get stuck in the forward line and as ruckmen regardless of wether they can run or handball or kick?

Yay. NRL isn't turning into Union. Its turning into AFL by stealth.

Fact is that teams get rewarded for not being able to crack a defensive line and just putting up bombs. How imaginative.

If you had to change the rules I wouldn't change points but I would make it easier to defend bombs for instance, defending player in the in-goal only has to touch the ball on the full to get a 20m restart or maybe attackers fielding a bomb aren't allowed to advance the ball or maybe extend the catching on the full rule to the 20m line. I don't know? It's just too easy for teams to not show some imagination and try their luck.
 

The Engineers Room

First Grade
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My suggestion is that once a ball is kicked from inside the 40m, the attacking team can only regather the ball once it bounces in the ingoal area.

Add to that a rule that a forced ball from a kick results in a drop kick from the 20m. It still keeps the kick as an option but it doesn't reward it as much.
 

-Dr.J-

Juniors
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What a bunch of whingers. You make it sound like it's the first option used. It's almost always on the last people resort to the bomb, after 5 tackles of your 'preferential' method of scoring. Jeez.

If there wasn't kicks, all the tacklers would compress to one area of the field making it even more boring. You can't get it through the hands as fast as you can with the boot.

Stop the AFL paranoia, if you're that worried about AFL you'll only fuel their organisation. Duh.
 

Shorty

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What a bunch of whingers. You make it sound like it's the first option used. It's almost always on the last people resort to the bomb, after 5 tackles of your 'preferential' method of scoring. Jeez.

If there wasn't kicks, all the tacklers would compress to one area of the field making it even more boring. You can't get it through the hands as fast as you can with the boot.

Stop the AFL paranoia, if you're that worried about AFL you'll only fuel their organisation. Duh.
Spot on.
At least there's some sense in this thread.
It's a shortcut to scoring a try when you can't crack the defensive line.
It's a shortcut?
So pinpointing a ball to your winger or getting it to the right bounce is a shortcut?
Come off it.
 

RL1908

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RL's greatest advantage (though it rarely shouts it out loud) is that it is a game where every "football" skill is on show. Over the past decade, I think we've moved closer to RU with the post-tackle mauling and wrestling, and it is no surprise that those not familiar with RL & RU struggle to spot the difference (clearly that is extreme - but ask a Victorian when you next stray upon one).

When RL first started here in Sydney it was described as game half-way between RU and Aust rules (in England it was decribed as half-way between RU and soccer).

From 1908 until the 1930s there was regular talk of the NSWRL and VFL merging. In 1911 Dally Messenger & the top kicker in the VFL both scored the same number of goals. RL got quite a few fans and footballers from Aust rules when it first started, including Howard Hallett and Charles "Chook" Fraser.

Given the current cross-code war for juniors and fans amongst all the codes, I'm not sure now is the time to be turning RL into a solely ball-carrying form of football. While RL is trying to attract juniors and fans from AFL, why try and rub out what is essentially an entry-door for AFL fans to start watching and understanding RL. If our RL juniors can grab some skills from AFL's "kick-to-kick", then why not take it? A 14 year old kid today weighing up which code to pursue today, might opt for RL instead of AFL because he can see RL allows him to apply all these skills and enjoyment.
 
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Tries from kicks don't bother me, some can be brilliant as we have seen. We still see some good tries though like the Matai try tonight from the Stewart pass. The tries that annoy me are the ones where kicks richochet off legs and someone pounces on it or where someone spills a high ball and another guy picks it up and scores, not that we can prevent these sorts of tries. Tries off kicks just show how good the defence is getting.
 

RLS

Juniors
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I hardly watched it. In fact I can hardly stand watching the NRL anymore. It's so frustrating because the dummy half running is constant. They seriously have to do something about it. I'd hate to see it like touch where you have to turn it over if caught from dummy half but I'd almost prefer it to the crap we're seeing now. I also hate making arbitrary rules that make it even harder to officiate, but maybe they have to look at some changes. I think if markers were allowed to stand shoulder to shoulder that would make it harder for the dummy halves and they'd have no choice but to come up with something else except when they catch a side with one marker (or none). That's the way it should be. Dummy half runs should only happen when the defence has been caught out, not every bloody ruck. The trade off could be that the tacklers have to get off quicker. ie cut the wrestling sh*t out. Watch the SL and they are really playing much better footy and it's because the PTBs are quicker and they use the ball instead of the one dimensional crap we see in the NRL.

I agree 100%, teams these days just don't know how to let the ball do the work, 5 rucks up and kick it is starting to get seriously repetitive.

I think coaches are a lot to blame though, as they don't let the players play football, I have seen a lot of exciting footballers, with great ballskills come on the scene, and in a season or 2 it's nearly all gone and they turn into robots.
 

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