*BREAKING NEWS* Bulldogs questioned over assault allegation

[Moffo]

The police will have DNA...The truth should come out

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[ibeme]

Firstly, I don't sympathise with anyone who commits sexual assault in any way, shape, or form. But unfortunately, if you were in a position in which girls through themselves at you all the time, offering themselves for sex, wouldn't your perception of them become tainted to a degree? In other words, if they were constantly offering themselves as sexual objects, wouldn't you begin to see them as sexual objects? Again, that's no excuse to take any lady further than she wants to go, but when you think of things in the context described in that article, it makes it easier for me to understand how guys could mis-read the girls' intentions.

Just a thought.

 

[ibeme]

The headline is mis-leading. It's talking about Ray Hadley, and who supplied him with the report, not the Bulldogs. Unless they suspect the Bulldogs of illegally obtaining the information?

I heard Ray Hadley read the report out, and he said that they'd checked with their legal people to ensure that it was ok to do so. They advised that it was ok to read it out as no charges had been laid yet.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/24/1077594824319.html

Police warn Bulldogs may be charged
February 24, 2004 - 8:05PM

Police have warned criminal charges could be laid after details from a police report on an allegation of sexual assault by Bulldogs rugby league players were leaked and aired on radio.

Media outlets were urged not to repeat details of the alleged rape of a woman at a Coffs Harbour resort which were revealed by broadcaster Ray Hadley on his morning show on Sydney radio station 2GB.

Police were investigating how the radio station obtained the information which they said was based on a COPS (Computerised Operational Policing System) "event document".

"The privacy of sexual assault victims is always protected to the utmost degree by police and we appeal to all media to assist us in this," said NSW police northern region commander, Assistant Commissioner Peter Parsons in a statement.

"Coffs Harbour police are interviewing a woman who is extremely distressed. This (radio) report is very likely to aggravate that distress severely.

"Investigators advise me that this report, and especially any further reporting of it, is highly likely to contaminate their investigation in this matter."

The statement said it was a criminal offence to gain access to the COPS system without proper reason and authorisation.

"Police are treating the release of this material very seriously and criminal charges could follow," it said.

 

[atomic_crimson]

i think it should be left to the police to sort out...

and if the players are innocent of any wrong doing then let us get on with the season and hopefully a good one at that but if they have been found of any wrong doing then they need to be punished in an appropriate manner which the police see fit.

but in all honesty i hardly see the point in 6 not 1 but 6 rugby league players esp ones from a high profile team risking there careers and credibitly etc...

 

[PJ]

"Coffs Harbour police are interviewing a woman who is extremely distressed. This (radio) report is very likely to aggravate that distress severely.

At least the worm Hadley got his report and ratings.

 

[Moffo]

Rayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[PJ]

How anyone listens to the tool is beyond me.

 

[hrundi99]

Hadley, as usual, is a loose cannon.

Yeah, Ray. Your'e a real legend, mate. :roll:

 

[iggy plop]

In the mid-ninties a now very successful AFL team had similar allegations (sexual misconduct) directed their way, but somehow it never became a big issue in the media. If word had of leaked it would be fair to say this team would not have enjoyed the success that eventually came their way. Obviously the AFL are good at covering up their devilish activities while rugby league is not.

That's why it pisses me off that these things are splashed across the front pages or aired on radio by geese like Hadley before anyone is proven guilty. The sport then suffers.

 

[Anonymous]

In the mid-ninties a now very successful AFL team had similar allegations (sexual misconduct) directed their way, but somehow it never became a big issue in the media. If word had of leaked it would be fair to say this team would not have enjoyed the success that eventually came their way. Obviously the AFL are good at covering up their devilish activities while rugby league is not.

That's why it pisses me off that these things are splashed across the front pages or aired on radio by geese like Hadley before anyone is proven guilty. The sport then suffers.

Don't know about that iggy... lets talk about Wayne Carey.

Last week his brother was charge with assault and it got some air play:
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8566257%5E13780,00.html

Carey has indicated he will retire from AFL football at the end of this season.

 

[iggy plop]

Wayne Carey did nothing illegal or wasn't alleged to have done anything illegal.

Carey's story was fair game and juicy stuff because of the Days of Our Lives-type feel to it. People who didn't give a toss about AFL were interested.

Carey's brother - so what?

 

[Anonymous]

You brought up the AFL.
Sure, lets not compare the incidents.
But do you think people differentiate re the 'Days of Our Lives-type feel' to it?

 

[TRANSLATION]

"If true, Punish to the full extent. If false, Punish the woman"

Possibly the biggest crock I have ever read.

Police struggle enough to get women to go ahead with sexual assualt cases in court. Throw in the chance that they get charged themselves and that should really help things.

Pj, I agree what I wrote was a crock of shit if you put it out like that. But i did not explaing myself properley enough, so the bagging was warranted. What i meant to say was, if the lady was Lying to get these guys in trouble, if that was found to be the case, she should be severley punished.

 

[JK]

Not funny ice

**edit**
this now looks stupid with the original comment deleted!
still, i'd rather it was gone...
**end edit**

 

[PB]

Firstly, I don't sympathise with anyone who commits sexual assault in any way, shape, or form. But unfortunately, if you were in a position in which girls through themselves at you all the time, offering themselves for sex, wouldn't your perception of them become tainted to a degree? In other words, if they were constantly offering themselves as sexual objects, wouldn't you begin to see them as sexual objects?

Just a thought.

What if it is the players themselves, who are buying these girls drinks, chatting them up, leading them on?! People often use the excuse that there are females out there who throw themselves at the players, and indeed there are some women who to use a common term are "groupies".

But plenty of players go out to pick up becuase they are trying to impress their mates. You read what the Bar manager said about the behaviour of some of the players at that Bar on Saturday night. "Messiest night ever!"

It takes two to Tango, but not everyone wants to dance......

 

[ibeme]

Firstly, I don't sympathise with anyone who commits sexual assault in any way, shape, or form. But unfortunately, if you were in a position in which girls through themselves at you all the time, offering themselves for sex, wouldn't your perception of them become tainted to a degree? In other words, if they were constantly offering themselves as sexual objects, wouldn't you begin to see them as sexual objects?

Just a thought.

What if it is the players themselves, who are buying these girls drinks, chatting them up, leading them on?! People often use the excuse that there are females out there who throw themselves at the players, and indeed there are some women who to use a common term are "groupies".

But plenty of players go out to pick up becuase they are trying to impress their mates. You read what the Bar manager said about the behaviour of some of the players at that Bar on Saturday night. "Messiest night ever!"

It takes two to Tango, but not everyone wants to dance......

That's what I mean. When so many girls throw themselves at you, you're judgement or perception of women may alter to see them as sex objects, hence you treat them as sex objects. That includes buying drinks, chatting up etc. with the view that this is what these women want, and that it will end in sex. Even though those girls may not have thrown themselves at them, the players may still think that that's what they're their for, based on past experience. I'm not condoning it, just trying to understand how their judgement in these situations can be so warped.

 

[Catatonic_Omnivore]

Firstly, I don't sympathise with anyone who commits sexual assault in any way, shape, or form. But unfortunately, if you were in a position in which girls through themselves at you all the time, offering themselves for sex, wouldn't your perception of them become tainted to a degree? In other words, if they were constantly offering themselves as sexual objects, wouldn't you begin to see them as sexual objects? Again, that's no excuse to take any lady further than she wants to go, but when you think of things in the context described in that article, it makes it easier for me to understand how guys could mis-read the girls' intentions.

Just a thought.

I have to disagree there. A case of - Two wrongs don't make it right. A person must be bound with some sort of moral obligation to society and identify what is right vs wrong.

 

[TRANSLATION]

Firstly, I don't sympathise with anyone who commits sexual assault in any way, shape, or form. But unfortunately, if you were in a position in which girls through themselves at you all the time, offering themselves for sex, wouldn't your perception of them become tainted to a degree? In other words, if they were constantly offering themselves as sexual objects, wouldn't you begin to see them as sexual objects? Again, that's no excuse to take any lady further than she wants to go, but when you think of things in the context described in that article, it makes it easier for me to understand how guys could mis-read the girls' intentions.

Just a thought.

I have to disagree there. A case of - Two wrongs don't make it right. A person must be bound with some sort of moral obligation to society and identify what is right vs wrong.

Well put

 

[theicemandanno]

Just a point.....

This could be the first time where the State's new 'Gang Rape' Laws and penalties could be applied......25 years minimum for an act of utter stupidity.

A deserving punishment none the less.

 

[ibeme]

Firstly, I don't sympathise with anyone who commits sexual assault in any way, shape, or form. But unfortunately, if you were in a position in which girls through themselves at you all the time, offering themselves for sex, wouldn't your perception of them become tainted to a degree? In other words, if they were constantly offering themselves as sexual objects, wouldn't you begin to see them as sexual objects?

Just a thought.

What if it is the players themselves, who are buying these girls drinks, chatting them up, leading them on?! People often use the excuse that there are females out there who throw themselves at the players, and indeed there are some women who to use a common term are "groupies".

But plenty of players go out to pick up becuase they are trying to impress their mates. You read what the Bar manager said about the behaviour of some of the players at that Bar on Saturday night. "Messiest night ever!"

It takes two to Tango, but not everyone wants to dance......

That's what I mean. When so many girls throw themselves at you, you're judgement or perception of women may alter to see them as sex objects, hence you treat them as sex objects. That includes buying drinks, chatting up etc. with the view that this is what these women want, and that it will end in sex. Even though those girls may not have thrown themselves at them, the players may still think that that's what they're their for, based on past experience. I'm not condoning it, just trying to understand how their judgement in these situations can be so warped.

Ibeme, your coping better than most dogs supporters.

But the players weather women throw themselves at them or not, should know better, than to have Group Sex at a Local Hotel, in front of people who could see. Sure they were 150m away from the main Accomadation, but do they think no one else gets up at 6am, and heads towards the pool ?

Last year *it is alleged* ( source paper today ), 1 bloke took a woman back, she woke up having sex with another, whilst another was sitting their Perving on proceedings.

It's a hero mates thing. Something the club warned them about.

They know they are in the spotlight, and can't put a foot out of order, yet players from all clubs do. But this is going way too far.

Again, that's my point. The players should know better. The public, including me, can't understand why they still do it. We wouldn't. What's going on in their minds that makes treating women like this acceptable? What's warped their judgement in these situations? That's what I'm trying to understand. Most of us have a break system that stops us from going this far, or behaving this way. They obviously don't. And I think one of the explanations could be over exposure to women who offer themselves as sex objects.

As for the public exposure at the pool, this is something that I'm really struggling to understand. It's one of the many aspects of this situation that doesn't add up.