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Brett Dallas

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Albert might be coming back to the NRL aswell

From http://www.nrl.com.au/news.cfm?id=8858

Albert hoping to play for the Knights again

4 June 2004

Remember Darren Albert? The flying winger who produced the fairytale try in the dying seconds of the 1997 grand final to give Newcastle its maiden premiership.

He's been playing rugby league in England since he left the Knights in 2001.

But he wants to come home and finish his career playing in the National Rugby League, preferably back with Newcastle.

Albert, now 28, turned his back on an incentive-based contract with the Knights in 2001, believed to be potentially worth $100,000 a year, and signed with Super League club St Helens.

He cited a desire to travel the world and experience a working holiday while he was still in his 20s, and thought playing in England was the best way to do it.

Albert admits it wasn't all rosy settling into a new country, and as a fulltime athlete, he's found little time to pop over to the European continent.

He also realises the move cost him any hope of wearing another NSW State of Origin jumper or NSW Country jersey, but still, he's loving the lifestyle.

"It was difficult at first because I came over on my own and I didn't know anyone here, I was coming to a new place," Albert said.

"And it's been hard to get away to travel.

"You don't really want to travel during the winter over here and your summer is taken up with playing rugby (league) so it's a bit counter productive.

"You don't really get the recognition back in Australia either but I'm enjoying it over here.

"I came over here with the thoughts that I was coming to enjoy it, have a good time and try living someone else.

"It's worked out well for me, I'm enjoying it still."

Albert has signed for St Helens, where he's become one of the club's top try scorers, until the end of next year but once his contract expires he'd like to see if he could once again crack it in the NRL.

"There's always the thought of going back to Australia and trying to get another start over there," he said.

"I haven't asked my manager to look around or anything like that.

"It's just something that's been running through my head lately, seeing as though I'm coming towards the end of my contract."

If he were to return home to play, ideally Albert would want to pick up where he left off with the 1997 ARL and 2001 NRL premiers and clock up 10 years with the one club.

"It would be a nice way to finish up," he said.

"I would still like to get the last couple of years up and make it 10 years that I was playing with the club."

Albert wouldn't be the first Knight to return to the NRL after a stint in England.

His former team-mate Matthew Johns spent a year with the Sharks after completing only one season of a two-year deal with Wigan.

Albert said the thing he missed most about playing in Australia was his mates.

"But in saying that, I'm loving the change in life and I still get to go home at Christmas and catch up with everybody so I've got the best of both worlds," he said.

Along with the travel, Albert had grand plans of pursuing his athletics career when he was in England and better his time of 10.80 seconds over 100 metres.

But he admitted that was another thing that had failed to eventuate given his commitments with football.

"I'd like to think I'm not getting too old for it but in the end I'll probably just end up thinking I've had enough after footy and just pull the pin and get on with my life for a while," he said.
 
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Dallas, no thanks.

I agree too old, and injury prone. I'd prefer if the Sharks didn't become a retirement for players that were overated in their prime (Seers, Dallas). El Masri can kick goals, and could renew his productive association with Vagana.
 
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blacktip-reefy said:
Well we have already seen your use of stats previously & how you bend them to suit your beliefs.
SL is far stronger than our PL.
Dallas is coming 5th I think in the SL try tally. 6 trys in 9 appearances.
In a team coming 6th.
So it would be easily said that if Dallas was at the Sharks right now, he would undoubtedly be getting called up to first grade.
Raper & sludge agree & thats why he is being made an offer.

http://www.wiganrl.com/stats.html

12 tries in 16 appearances for Dallas might be more accurate :)

Not that I disagree with blacktip-reefy, I think Dallas would be a tremendous buy.

Anyone who thinks he is slow isn't watching the SL

Anyone who thinks he is old must be only 11 themselves

Anyone remember Chicka Ferguson? here are his stats for the last 3 years of his career. these tries were scored AFTER a total knee reco in 1987

1988 - 20 tries - age 33
1989 - 13 tries - age 34
1990 - 11 tries - age 35

To twist a hackneyed old favourite - if you're good enough you're young enough :)
 
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Chicka was a freak. One of my all time favourite players. Brought the crowd to his feet every time he touched the ball.

Dallas is none of the above.
 

blacktip-reefy

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Its fairly common practive to exclude the cup from SL stats. Or at least differentiating them.
So to be completely accurate I will ghave to find accurate stats on the powergen Challenge as I don't think he has scored 6 tries in that comp.

BTW If Albert is near his PB he is faster than Reick. Still.
 

MilitaryShark

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BTW If Albert is near his PB he is faster than Reick. Still.
What is Alberts PB ?

Surely we are not going to offer Dallas any huge amounts are we ?
Lets go hard after El Masri, how many games have we lost by 6 or less points in the last 2 years ? a few i would guess
 

blacktip-reefy

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Along with the travel, Albert had grand plans of pursuing his athletics career when he was in England and better his time of 10.80 seconds over 100 metres
 

Rieck_Fan

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Rieck's quick but not that quick. I still think at his fastest he could make 10.**. In school at my quickest I could run mid-low 11.**'s over 100m but it wasn't a regular occurance.
 
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blacktip-reefy said:
Its fairly common practive to exclude the cup from SL stats. Or at least differentiating them.
So to be completely accurate I will ghave to find accurate stats on the powergen Challenge as I don't think he has scored 6 tries in that comp.

BTW If Albert is near his PB he is faster than Reick. Still.

He's scored 6 in each. He's Wigans top try scorer overall. That's according to the Wigan website anyway
 
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blacktip-reefy said:
The six is probably closer perhaps even conservative, as they beat the french mob by 80 points in one match.

Finally got it :D

vs Widnes - 1 try
vs XIII Limouxin - 1 try
vs Wakefield QF - none
vs Warrington SF - 3 tries
vs St Helens F - 2 tries

so he got 7 in the CC.
 

ali

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He's in great form. I think he would be our number winger at the moment, but I'm not sure if i would sign a 30 year old winger with a history of pretty serious injury problems. I'd only sign him for a very good price.
 

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Wingers flumoux me.
The new line of thinking is that sprinters reach their peak between 31-38 years of age.
Their recovery from injury is also at its peak.
What happens to them?
Does the contact of league break them up?
linford Christie was a definite shot at the 100m's the year he was disqualified & I think he was 39.
I know league players train a lot, but surely not as much as a sprinter. I wouldsay that leagueies get paid more through the median percentiles.
Why an albert or dallas or reick can't be playing until they are 35 or so is beyond me.
Does their drive disappear?
 

MilitaryShark

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Im now watching Wigan V St Helens on BFBS, SKYSPORTS2 and Dallas is playing really well. Albert looks pretty good too, even though its only 15 minutes into the game.......
 

blacktip-reefy

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what a match up.
2 of the fastest players in the world of rugby league up against each other.
hope they have a crack at each others defense.
 

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